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gary tuchman reports. >> reporter: sydney is the big sister, age 8, a third-grader. she likes painting by numbers and ballet. abby is the little sister. she is 5, in kindergarten. she likes to sing and play dress-up. what both sisters like in common are guns. they like to shoot. the sisters are firing .22 caliber semiautomatic rifles and being instructed by their father at the okeechobee shooting sports range in okeechobee, florida. the facility owner says there is no stated minimum age to fire a gun. >> for some schools preschool age is old enough the is what you're saying? >> we've had 4 and 5-year-olds shoot here that do better than some adults. >> reporter: kindergartner abby is a veteran marksman. she has been shooting since she was 3. >> when we get ready, we're going to put the magazine in and you're going to pull the trigger. you ready to shoot? >> reporter: the girls' father jason reynolds says he always repeats safety procedures and always keeps his hands on the weapon. >> can you see through the scope okay? >> yeah. >> all right. i'm going to take it off s

here is gary tuchman. [ applause ] >> reporter: joan rivers' comedy stood the test of time. >> 30 yearsld you're not married, you're an old maid is. a man is 90 and unmarried, he's a catch. >> i'm wearing the same under wear which everyone back stage remembers. [ laughter ] >> reporter: her unique style was consistent. less consistent, her appearance. >> my body is my temple and my temple needs redecorating. >> this is such a stupid elective surgery. >> no, no, no, it's elective but i bet each one of you would do something if i paid for it. >> reporter: joan rivers never hesitated to talk about her plastic surgeries. back in 2007 she had a humorous heart to heart with jay filling in on "larry king live". >> when you first did it, joan, the plastic surgery -- >> i did it wrong. >> how old? >> 41. >> natural bags from my father and i was starting to get that tired 41-year-old look, you know, and i just thought let me do it now. somebody told me i look -- johnny's wives said do it before you need to. >> did you do it because you wanted to be prettier or felt you were looking older? >> i wa

cnn's gary tuchman with that. >> reporter: joan rivers became a queen of comedy with the help of the king of late night. >> she is funny herself. would you welcome please joan rivers. >> reporter: joan rivers has always said johnny carson was her mentor. her first guest appearance on his "tonight show" was 1965. by 1983 she was johnny's regular guest host. >> talking to lucille ball. >> the late great lucille ball was promoting a movie, and she made a rare appearance on late-night television to talk with joan rivers on "the tonight show." >> i didn't realize you were on more times, hours than anybody else. >> i didn't either till i heard you say it. >> yeah. >> joan rivers thrived while filling in for johnny. with her self-deprecating humor. >> today, which is january 20th, is my daughter melissa's birthday. [ cheers and applause ] isn't that nice? and i remember so clearly the day she was born because it broke up my wedding reception. >> reporter: she often made fun of her homemaking skills. >> too bad. i do not cook. i hate to cook. cooking is boring and it's stupid. flies come to

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. >> reporter: gary tuchman, cnn, atlanta. >> it's hard to believe that she is gone.aking history. recently she stopped by another late-night talk show. watch what happens live. listen to what she told host and my friend andy cohen. >> i will tell you the big joke people say she shouldn't have said on television. >> what was it? >> my husband came home and i wanted to be sexy so i wrapped myself in saran wrap and he said left overs again? >> i spoke, andy, earlier this evening. andy, you've known joan rivers for years, first of all, when you first heard she passed away today, what did you think? >> just so sad. i don't want to live in a world without joan rivers and i think that no one does, i mean, she was such a life force and though she was in her 80s, it's still shocking. i saw her at a wedding a few weeks ago. i was pitching a show with her. she was just on mine a month ago. she was someone that you thought would be around forever and i mean it. >> she was also a professional. she's been doing it so long, people show up to a talk show like yours and don't -- they

i love you so much. >> i love you back, my darling. >> gary tuchman, cnn, atlanta. >> we have compileds classic quotes on our website, like this one, people say money's not the key to happiness, i always figured if you have enough money, can you have a key made. to read more of her one liners, go to cnn.com. i can't do joan rivers credit. we can't get enough of seeing and hearing all of her wonderful one liners. she was really remarkable. >>> could this boston man be doing high-tech dirty work for the group isis? that's coming up. i got to be pretty good at managing my symptoms, except that managing my symptoms was all i was doing. ♪ when i finally told my doctor, he said my crohn's was not under control. ♪ he said humira is for adults like me who've tried other medications but still experience the symptoms of moderate to severe crohn's disease. and that in clinical studies, the majority of patients on humira saw significant symptom relief. and many achieved remission. [ female announcer ] humira can lower your ability to fight infections, including tuberculosis. serious, sometimes fat

gary tuchman on the life and work of a tracker. >> reporter: there are hundreds of thousands of acres in the wilderness of the nantahala national forest in north carolina, and places like this is where fugitives gravitate. patrick patton knows that firsthand. >> to be a master tracker, you have to really enjoy the woods and it has to be in your blood. >> reporter: patton was the lead tracker in the ultimately successful five-year search for eric rudolph, the so-called atlanta olympic park bomber. he was found right in this area. patton returns here with us to give us our own tracking lesson. footprints have been left for us. our pretend fugitive has a size 11 to 12 shoe. >> this is measured from the toe of one shoe to the heel of the other. this is approximately 20 1/2 inches. >> reporter: you follow footprints as long as you can. >> see how fresh it looks? and here's your disturbance right in here. >> reporter: a tracker can even tell when the bad guy is getting weary and may be easier to catch. >> as you can see here, the fugitive looks like they may be getting tired. they're starti

cnn's gary tuchman talked with an atlanta area family who says, in the south, spanking or disciplinekatrina hall's house in norcross, georgia. but her children are staying up late because we're paying a visit to talk about spankings, or what many call them, whoopings. also in the house this evening, katrina's mother, laura. three generations. >> my children are spanked. and i will go to the closet and i will use a belt. >> a belt? >> they will get spankings with a belt. >> reporter: and for lesser infractions, with her hand. kanay is 10 years old, joshua is 4. they are both great kids. but -- >> in a four-month time span, honestly, she's gotten a spanking once. >> reporter: and your son, joshua, who's 4, how often does he get it? >> joshua gets a spanking every single day. i mean, to be more serious. i would say as often as needed. >> reporter: not long ago, joshua spat on his sister. >> and i said, son, you will never, ever spit on anyone again. you get a spanking. this is consist of maybe four or five pops on your leg, and that's the end of it. >> reporter: with what? >> with the b