gary tuchman is there. tell us what you are seeing and hearing. >> reporter: first of all, everyone here knows what president trump said. president trump said the united states is full and asylum seekers should turn around. suffice it to say that in this shelter in tijuana, mexico, about a five-minute walk away from the u.s. border fence, people do not want to follow that advice to turn around and go back home. they also have some dubiousness about whether the united states is full. this shelter has about 115 people right now. these are people mostly from guatemala, from el salvador, from honduras and other parts of mexico. there are about 47 tents here, a total of 150 people. you see this little girl next to me? everyone is grabbing her legs. to be very honest with you, the children here crave affection. they're getting it from their parents, no question about it. but for weeks or months they have been traveling from their countries to get here. this place is very stark. you can see the children are watchi

gary tuchman, cnn, georgetown, delaware. >> interesting to hear from those voters in that room.hree perspectives on this from three political voices, democratic strategist and former congressional black caucus angela rye, who has endorsed kamala harris. also with us democratic strategist paul begala. bakari, what do you make of gary's piece? obviously a lot of love in that room for the vice president. it's not a scientific sampling, of course. >> you'll find people who appreciate, who love joe biden, who appreciate the fact that he has given up 40 years of his life for service to this country. i think that's very important. but joe biden, like kamala harris, like pete buttigieg, like amy klobuchar is going to have to answer questions about his record, which many people found problematic. in 1984, he was working with strom thurmond on expanding 8s forfeiture, the crime bill. these things are very, very important. and because his record of service is so long, he's going to have to answer these questions not with simply value propositions, but with policy points on how he is going

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toilets for hundreds of people and a leaky roof to sleep under like our facility in mexico that gary tuchmannight. joining us now, someone who has also seen conditions up close, senator jeff merkley of oregon. do you take the president at his word when he says he is not looking to resume his child separation policy? >> well, i think he got a lot of feedback yesterday from republicans on capitol hill saying that this is an evil, dark policy, and don't go back there. that it was a mistake to begin with, and they don't want any part of it. so perhaps now he's convinced it's not a smart thing to do. it's certainly not a good thing to do. >> to the notion that the president put forward that more families are coming because the process is like, in his words, a picnic or disneyland, you have been to facilities. i'm wondering what you think of those descriptions? >> well, i tell you, it's absolutely horrific on the border. the administration is blocking people from crossing at the ports of entry. forcing them back into mexico, where they're very vulnerable to gangs, to rape, to sex crimes, to a whol