it did not start with chief gascogne. it started well before chief ribera, but he thought to write it down. it is not going to stop with chief godown. but it is important that we find a way the citizenry knows what community policing means. i want to say thank-you to supervisor campos for helping speer had this hearing, and his staff bringing together the facility and foreign tonight. -- forum tonight. [applause] secondly, when the public or police here and the supervisor or elected official decry the fact that they want to see more police, and i was someone who went out on a limb by this, much to the chagrin of many in the force, by saying, "get out of their cars and get to know the public." it was not meant to be punishment. it was actually a compliment. we wanted to see more of a relationship between sfpd and the community, so it would foster the relationship that had been absent in areas that people, i think, were craving. the way i think some people within the department or culture of the department think that what p

i would say if any police chief has been inaccessible, it has been george gascogne. he walked around town with a motorcade. he barricaded himself into the hall of justice with police and telephone banks. do not cut me off. i have my full minute. supervisor campos: just focus on the topic. >> i am speaking about the pick for police chief. if you go on the president of the past four police chiefs you have selected based on community policy, those have been disasters as well. we are not hiring the police department to be social workers. the salaries are already fat as it is. if you keep pushing them in a direction they are not supposed to go into, you are going to have more murders unsolved. you will have the highest unsolved murder rate in the history of san francisco. i think you have to look at that. if you want a police to come get him from the wreck -- from the ranks. get him so he willhe was operato when he is not. he is operating as a city attorney when he was police chief. i think what you have to do is picking police chief from the ranks that is not enough to s