was the president unsure about his decision to send 30,000 more troops into harm's way, but robert gateses also told sean about his suspicion of the military leaders running the war. >> i always had the feeling with him, first of all, that he was suspicious of their motives and second that time spent with them was an obligation. rather than something he enjoyed. >> and fortunately, the jaw droppers don't stop there, but eric, what do you think about this admission that president obama is going out there, he's telling the public everything is going great, we're doing a good job, we're getting results, and then behind closed doors, he has this apprehension, he doesn't want to be there. i can see on one hand how he wouldn't want to go out and slam the mission while we have men and women in harm's way, but if he was so against it, why didn't he pull them out? >> again, i'm not sure why he didn't and again, 30,000 more troops, and then bob gates tells he wasn't sure of the mission and he didn't trust in the leaders. gates tells us president obama wasn't sure the leaders were carrying out the mi

inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] use] [applause] >> secretary gatesal [applause] y >> secretaryou gates i want to stake you fo r being your in light of your injury you are making a robust recovery nd we thank you so much f king but wearing a us. >> until i became a secretary of defense i have never broken a bone or had a surgery. [laughter] february 2008, i fell on the ice and broke his shoulder in three places and 10 months later a snow plow blade on the tractor and my security guards came to the conclusion that al qaeda was no risk to me at all compared to myself. [laughter] and before we start i would like to say that it is good to be back here at the senate and also to apologize to the audience on my right for not turning in your direction. but the result of a broken neck is somewhat limited mobility of my head. well, that being said, let's get to your book. i found it a striking account "duty" gave what i would call a great thing. and you had a lot of help from the secretary of state, hillary clinton as you and other top members wrestled with the d

i want more gateses, more zuckerbergs to create tens of thousands of millionaires.t's the american dream. >> that's all fine and good butt bottom 20% of the country have a 10% chance of getting out of the bottom 20%. >> i thought there was a huge study last week by rock star, superstar economists that said mobility today is no different than it was in 1971? >> i think if you're at the bottom, it may be tougher today. but stuff i've read and i'm not an expert. that's about family breakup, that's about single mothers, that's about kids who don't go to school. that's a social issue, not an economic issue. >> i think mobility should be better and the correlation between income inequality, there isn't any. >> where would howard dean go on this? >> i do think we need a strong social safety net. i think increasing the minimum wage significantly matters a lot. these guys are making -- the minute people or minimum wage adjusted for inflation, the minimum wage today would be in the neighborhood of $15. >> that's not true. it's just where it was for the entire 1960s to 1970s.

. >> i believe the gateses have already made most of their money, so they wouldn't be taxed under a new our state. >> they wouldn't be taxed at all? no. >> well, for people who have already made their money and paid taxes in this state, that money wouldn't be taxed again. it's only for people who are earning new money in this state. >> well, that's ridiculous. i mean... i mean, my son will pay a huge, huge income tax. >> he will? >> come on. he's the richest man in the country. what-- >> no, but i'm asking-- >> how can anybody think he isn't gonna pay a huge income tax? >> what is the income-- >> what does a person with $50 billion have for income? >> it's on-- >> this conversation isn't making any sense. >> bill gates would pay multimillions in taxes on the income from his investments. he wants to. he's told you that. he's for this. >> well, "wants to" is a little strong. >> okay, he's for this. >> he is for it. he's very willing. >> but as david stockman will tell you, that attitude is hard to find. >> we've demonized taxes, all right? we've created almost the idea that they're a meta