, and it is not just gatlin. victims say they have the same fears for the dozens and dozens of violent convicted criminals he turned loose in his last days, including other convicted murderers. >> how is the state of mississippi better off? how is the country better off? all these guys aren't staying in mississippi. they're going to be all over the united states. >> reporter: do you feel betrayed in. >> i feel the system worked for the victims in this family. but i feel that the governor at that time is the one that let this family down, not the system. >> reporter: governor barbour. >> yes. >> in my heart i would like to think he didn't know, because if he did, we've had a monster for a governor, you know, a nonhuman feeling person. >> cnn senior legal analyst jeffrey toobin joins me along with attorney general jim hood. thanks for being with us. the court issued a temporary injunction which you saw it, blocking release of any of the pardoned prisoners until a hearing takes place. is it the sheer number of pardo

one of the men is david gatlin. the shooting victim he left behind and family of the victim that didn't live to tell the story are in a word scared. martin savidge joins me live. martin? >> reporter: it has been a chaotic last couple hours as the legal wrangling is under way to try to bring to a halt in some way the pardon process that was brought about as a result of former governor haley barbour. as you point out, there has been success on the part of the mississippi attorney general. they have that temporary injunction. what that means, those in prison, 21 that have not been released will stay in prison. as for the murderers, they are out, but ordered now to report through department of corrections on a daily basis. but right now, they are still essentially free. and what that means for the families of victims, they're not going to sleep until those men are back behind bars. i went for a strange drive with randy walker. >> you're feeling the butterflies. >> a little bit. i don't know why. >> reporter: we ended up

one released is david gatlin. in 1993 he walked into the home of his estranged wife tammy and shot her in the head killing her. gatlin also shot her friend randy walker, he survived the gunshot wound to the head, walker says he will now live in fear now that gatlin is has been released. >> i feel like my safety is in jeopardy. tammy's family, i feel they are all in jeopardy. i feel fear for the safety of my family. it's an issue. anybody that might be with me at the time he decides to do something. we feel like we are in jail now and david is out of jail. >> reporter: haley barbour released a statement explaining about 90% of the people were no longer in custody and a majority of them had been out of jail for years. a court hearing on the issue is set for january 23rd. sherrie johnson, abc2 news. >>> headlines from around the nation this morning -- a rash of bus accidents in the district of columbia. brace yourself, look to the right of your screen. watch. this is a pedestrian right there. the bus driver ran over

you know, david gatlin was pardoned.y the same way as randy and i do. we're both fearful for our lives, our families' lives, and we will live with this for the rest of our lives. >> he killed your sister, tiffany, while she was holding her baby -- their baby, a six-month-old who they eventually found her body with the baby right there. >> actually, he was six weeks old. >> did the governor say why -- oh, i'm so sore rimpt he was six weeks old. have you asked the governor, what possibly was the motivation for doing this? because it seems he's not answering media questions about it. what has he told you? >> we have actually tried to contact the governor, and he will not respond to any of us. he will not comment on anything. we have no answers as to why he has done this. i would like to think he did not have all of the facts of the case. if he did have all the facts, apparently we haven't had a really goodman for our governor. >> randy walker and tiffany ellis brewer talking with us this morning. appreciate your time. our c

charles hooker and gatlin are in touch with the authorities.e caught up with him at relative's home in missouri. >> everyone deserves a second chance. >> do you think people should be angry at governor barbour? >> no, sir. he treated us like we his children. >> you'll hear more of that exclusive interview when martin savidge join us. he tracked down mccray. mccray since his wife's killing was accidental. the judge who tried his case says otherwise. there's no dispute about what one of the other pardoned killers did to his estranged wife. and her friend, randy walker. >> i fired the first gunshot. he stepped up to tammy with her holding that baby in a cradled position and shot her with that baby's head no more than 8 inches from where he shot her, just real close. came to the edge of the bed. put the gun between my eyes. i turned my head sideways. he shot me in the side. that probably saved my life. >> he lives in fear gatlin will try to finish what he started. heigate thought gatlin would be behind bars for years to come. instead, he was set fr

this man, gatlin, who shot and killed his ex stranged tammy ellis gatlin in 1993. >> the papers served on ozment missing for days, compelled him to show up for a court hearing and check in with the mississippi department of corrections, how will he enforce that given he's in another state and no longer in your custody? >> that's what's such a difficult part of this process, kind of like being on a man hunt with one arm tied behind my back. can't use the criminal justice process of apbs and warrants. all we have is a civil document we served him with. that is the most we can do. we can't treat him as an escapee. he has a document that says he's a free man as of now. if he doesn't show up in court, we will move to hold him in contempt. we have now served all five of those originally released and the court's order, the in ju injunctive relief requiring all five stay in prison until the court is able to make a decision in this case. >> ozment killed ricky montgomery over $60 while robbing a convenience store and shot him between the eyes and then shot him again and when the governor calls

among them david gatlin sentenced to life plus 30 years for shooting to death his estranged wife tammy as she held her 6-week-old son and shooting her friend who survives. tiffany is tammy's sister and says her family is furious with barbour for releasing gatlin, causing them to live in fear. >> he is a cold, calculated murderer. why wouldn't he finish what he started, you know? being a trustee at the governor's mansion does not change a murderer. >> reporter: in a written statement issued tonight, his office said approximately 90% of those who received clemency were no longer in majority and were out for years. also tonight, the mississippi attorney general says he was granted an injunction that prevents more prisoners from being released. >> it's a slap in the face to me as a prosecutor, after serving 20 years, we have to try to round up all these convicts that have been turned loose. and try to fix the mess that he's created. >> reporter: tonight here at the state capitol, some of the law makers have been talking about proposed legislation, to limit the governor's ability to pardon

charles hooker and gatlin are in touch with the authorities. at relative's home in missouri. >> everyone deserves a second chance. >> do you think people should be angry at governor barbour? >> no, sir. he treated us like we his children. >> you'll hear more of that exclusive interview when martin savidge join us. he tracked down mccray. mccray since his wife's killing was accidental. the judge who tried his case says otherwise. there's no dispute about what one of the other pardoned killers did to his estranged wife. and her friend, randy walker. >> i fired the first gunshot. he stepped up to tammy with her holding that baby in a cradled position and shot her with that baby's head no more than 8 inches from where he shot her, just real close. came to the edge of the bed. put the gun between my eyes. i turned my head sideways. he shot me in the side. that probably saved my life. >> he lives in fear gatlin will try to finish what he started. heigate thought gatlin would be behind bars for years to come. instead, he was set free. governor barbour

reporter: in 1993, tiffany brewer's sister tammy was shot in the face by her estranged husband, david gatlin. he was one of four convicted murderers pardoned and released by governor haley barbour. >> he owed us some kind of explanation as to why he was letting this malicious killer just go. >> reporter: on his last day in office, barbour pardoned 203 criminals. some convicted of rape, manslaughter, and armed robbery. reached by phone, barbour told cbs news 189 of those pardoned were already out of prison. some he said for years and years. barbour also explained 13 pardons were for sick inmatesmas who cost the mississippi prison system thousands of dollars for health care. he told us "we let them out because they're so expensive." jim hood is the mississippi attorney general and a political opponent of barbour. >> you know, he needs to answer the people in the state of mississippi wile he's gone out and created chaos by releasing all these... and pardoning violent offenders like this. >> reporter: hood says in at least some of the cases barbour did not follow a state law that requires 30 day

and the pardon no one can forgive is david gatlin, who shot his wife dead with their son in their arms. tonight, no one knows where he is. >> this was a cold-blooded, well thoughtout, premeditated murder. >> reporter: his wife's sister worries he's coming back to the family to finish the deed. she says governor barbour is a coward for freeing these men and then disappearing. >> i think he doesn't care. >> reporter: it's now clear that gatlin and three other convicted murderers were given a get out of jail free card because they worked in the governor's kitchen and washed his cars. today, lawmakers here are searching for ways to block the four pardons of those convicted murderers, as well as the nearly 200 other pardons barbour issued on his way out of office. >> the public just doesn't get it. i don't get it, either. haley's done a lot of great things. but i'm afraid in the large measure, this will tarnish his image going forward. >> when you're a fat redneck like me and have an accent like mine -- >> reporter: governor barbour has never been shy. a tough on crime crusader, never afrai

closure to this matter we feel like we might be in even more danger. >> judge jeanine: now, when gatlinonvicted of killing his wife and shooting you, and he was sentenced to life, did you ever think that you would be in this situation? >> well, at the time david was convicted the law was a little bit different and i knew he would get out one day, probably on a parole but i never dreamed he would get a pardon. >> and john, do you think that the governor's clementscy powers that i'm going to talk to jean-patrick dolan should include the right to release murderers who have been sentence for life? >> well, every governor has that right to make a pardon and i think it is only fair that we should believe that governor barbour was acting in good faith and not doing something for a reason other than a good faith belief that rehabilitation had taken place. although your heart obviously had to go out to the victims and certainly there are still security concerns. >> over 200. the last minute. before he leaves office. without notifying the victims. without telling people why. i mean it is just bey

closure to this matter we feel like we might be in even more danger. >> judge jeanine: now, when gatlinas convicted of killing his wife and shooting you, and he was sentenced to life, did you ever think that you would be in this situation? >> well, at the time david was convicted the law was a little bit different and i knew he would get out one day, probably on a parole but i never dreamed he would get a pardon. >> and john, do you think that the governor's clementscy powers that i'm going to talk to jean-patrick dolan should include the right to release murderers who have been sentence for life? >> well, every governor has that right to make a pardon and i think it is only fair that we should believe that governor barbour was acting in good faith and not doing something for a reason other than a good faith belief that rehabilitation had taken place. although your heart obviously had to go out to the victims and certainly there are still security concerns. >> over 200. the last minute. before he leaves office. without notifying the victims. without telling people why. i mean it is just

this guy david gatlin who murdered tammy gatlin when she was holding a 6-week-old baby in her sleep.get a gun as if he never got convicted of murder in the first place? is that the case, mark? >> yes. >> and vote. >> period, end of story, yes. megyn: you are doing a good jock of defending this guy. but does that shock everyone here? >> this case does offend me as a victim's right advocate. but i'm telling you what he did is permissible. so it was a good idea for someone held in such high regard, a potential presidential candidate who is known as a law and order guy who gave how many, zero pardons or clemency to death row inmates. this is a little bit puzzling but perhaps he's a human being like the rest us and felt a personal connection to those people living and working with him in his home. it doesn't justify it. megyn: i understand. kimberly is saying and i think mark will agree, if the notice procedures are correct he's on solid ground, but it doesn't answer the question whether it's right morally or whether it will come back to haunt him politically. >> i think the legislators n

>> reporter: but governor haley barber saw gatlin differently.orkers worked in the governor's mansion, and barbour also canceled his life sentence. you heard right. he is now a free man. >> a full and unconditional pasch. >> yeah. >> which means -- >> which means he has the same rights that you have, that i have. >> reporter: including to carry a gun. >> yeah. >> reporter: do you worry about david? >> yeah. >> reporter: all frayed? >> i'm afraid he will come after my family randy's family, and like randy says, finish what he started. >> reporter: she also fears he'll try to contact the son he left in the dead mother's arm, who is now 18, and the family is desperately trying to protect. barbour has triggered a strange role reversal. gatlin goes free while the victims say they are sentenced to spend the rest of their lives in fear. victims say they have the same fears for the dozens and dozens of violent convicted criminals barbour turned loose in his last days, including other convicted murderers. >> how is the state of mississippi better off? all

>> yes. >> do you worry about david gatlin? >> yes. >> are you afraid of david gatlin. >> i'm afraid that he will come after my family, randy's family. and like randy says, finish what he started. >> i think david gatlin was the guy who shot his wife while she was holding the baby if i'm not mistaken. >> yes, 3-month-old. she was with him, the victim who just spoke and had the baby in her arms. they were estranged and he walked into the trailer and -- >> shot her in the head. >> to the head, both of them. he survived. she did not. >> governor barbour's office is responding to all of this. approximately 90% of these individuals were no longer in custody. the pardons were intended to allow them to find gainful employment or acquire professional licenses as well as hunt and vote. because those are the rights that were restored. they get a right to vote and a right to carry arms. >> i find it fascinating that he said a right to hunt. hunting is a big second amendment issue in this country. to add that into the statement, i hope --

these people that have been -- that are at issue here, david gatlin, these guys served on average 20 years in the penitentiary. david gatlin, in 20 years, never had one citation for any infraction or violation of the rules. >> but in terms of the man he shot in the head and that man survived, have you reached out to him or other victim's families? >> only to give notice that these guys were being released. let me say, i understand, recognize and respect the fact that if you were injured by somebody or if your loved one was killed, that there may be vengeance, there may be fear, there may be all these things. but my state spends about $350 million on corrections every rehabilitation. >> governor -- >> a lot of guys won't be rehabilitat rehabilitated. these have been. they've redeemed themselves. they deserve a second chance. i'm the only one that can give it to him. >> you would have made the same decision if you were running for president and it was got a political question? >> same thing -- four years ago i released and pardoned the prisoners who worked at the mansion. i made plain

among the inmates released,-day forecast gatlin, convicted of fatally shooting his estranged wife in 1993. the sister of the victim says he served less time than her sister lived. >> it's completely unfair. he's in jail for up to 18 years, she was 20 years old when she died. and had her child laying in her arms when he shot her in her head. and he's pardoned? >> democratic lawmakers call for an end to the custom of governors issuing such pardons. what do you think? your thoughts on the idea that governors would do these blanket pardons for criminals unknowing what they may go on to do down the road. go to facebook and let us know what you think about that. >>> an appeals court is going to be lifting a ban on the texas sonogram law. texas doctors now required to describe the grainy sonogram image to a woman seeking an abortion as well as playing the child's heartbeat. ? a woman in indiana at wit's end with her son's behavior. this may be the story you talk about all day. after this young man had a number of run-ins with police she took matters into her own hands and came up with an un

how did you learn that the governor had given david gatlin a pardon? i had got even a letter from the mississippi parole board saying that david had been denied parole, that he had come up on december 27th, and that they had denied him parole and that he would come up again in october of 2012. i kind of breathed a sigh of relief, i said okay he's not getting out for nine or ten more months. saturday morning at 10:00 not even 24 hours later my wife got a call from the department of corrections lady, the victims coordinator, i can't think of her name and said david had been given a full, unconditional pardon. megyn: what was your reaction when you heard that news? >> my wife came to where i was working and made me stop what i was doing. and she told me that, and it went right over my head, i said no way, we got this letter yesterday, he is not getting out. they misspoke, or you got the information wrong, or you heard it wrong, no way, it ain't possible. we did some checking to make sure that's what we heard and we found out he had been given a pardon, th

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