bezos and his girlfriend were expose said. >> gavin debecker told us he does not believe jeff bezos' phone was hacked. he thinks it's possible a government entity might he gotten hold of his textmousages. >> reporter: no comment from ami. meanwhile, take a look at more from that blog, bezos saying that he is going to expose this. he also added he prefers to stand up, rl this log over and see what crawls out. he added rere thatd rather than capitulate extortion and blackmail, he's decided to publish despite the emharrassment. >>ver you think about his actions, that was certainly a brave move on hipart. >>> 14-year-old denied a port of entree is now reopen after a customs officer oshot a driver who refused to stop. the driver was headed south and tried to run over the officer after being told to stop. the vehicle's momentum carried it to the border.side of the no word on his condition. >>> the supreme court blocked louisiana from enforcing a controversial abortion law. the law would have left the state with just a singl doctor in single clinic legally authorized to perform abortions. s

. >> gavin debecker told us that he does not believe that jeff bezos phone was hacked.it's possible that a government entity might have gotten ahold of his text messages. >> earlier gavin debecker the security consultant said publicly he thought the brother of bezos' mistress lauren sanchez played a role in leaking those private photos and texts. tucker. >> tucker: mr. muster with a candle stick. trace, thank you very much. so a lot of confusing parts about this story. one thing that is crystal clear is where the media stands. journalists love jeff bezos. now, some of them literally work for him at his personal p.r. operations/lobbying shop it's called "the washington post." even those who don't take his money directly think jeff bezos is great. why do they think that? because he is rich. he is the richest man in the world in fact. of course journalist also tell you their job is to hold the powerful to account. pretty funny. in real life the aciddously suck up to power. they can't help themselves. the more powerful the more flamboyant their graph ling. louis xivth never

gavin debecker told us that he does not believe that jeff bezos's phone was hacked. he thinks it's possible that a government entity might have gotten a hold of his text messages. >> and jerry george let me go back to you because as the los angeles bureau chief i'm sure you know of gavi nerks debecker. he is the person people in los angeles turn to for security and personal protection. he has a large firm and provides all sorts of services. he has been doing this for a long time. there is no one i'm aware of in the country, in the private sector with more experience and resources in knowing how to handle an investigation like this. >> well, gavin has had the reputation of being the best in the business for the past 25 years. so his involvement alone bespeaks a major concern. >> yeah. and tim o'brian, you have been studying donald trump's relationship to david pecker, who runs the "national enquirer." the idea, the idea that they were trying to, in effect, extort out of him a statement that the "national enquirer" does not have a political agenda. >> right. >> i mean,

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gavin debecker has told the "washington post" and daily beast has looked at sanchez and questioned him not provided cnn with an on the record response but the "washington post" previously reported he denied any role in his sister's affair. >> thanks very much. >>> we have more breaking news as the virginia lieutenant governor is denying a second claim of sexual assault, let's go to ryan nobles. >> at that time they took a wait-and-see attitude to those allegations, calling for an investigation but not quickly calling for the lieutenant governor to step down. now a second woman claim the lieutenant governor raped her during college. he says she's not telling the truth and he has no plans to resign. we're learning that a democratic delegate from northern virginia arlington county patrick hope, i just got off the phone with him, he told me he's now drafting articles of impoovment he plans to file monday morning to force the lieutenant governor from office if he does not resign before then. he said it's his desire that he should leave office on his own, but he believes the second accuser h

howard kurtz said this all falls on gavin debecker, a security chief for bezos and was doing the investigationf the "national inquirer." he told kurtz "everything gavin has gotten jeff to do has amplified the story." >> shepard: thanks, dan. a fox urgent now. she did the crime, she will start doing the time. the woman convicted of encouraging her boyfriend to kill himself is headed to jail. michelle carter in court earlier today. in 2014, she sent texts to her conrad roy urging him to kill himself. he did. last week, massachusetts's highest court upheld her manslaughter conviction. now she has to serve her 15-month terms. defense lawyers said she didn't force her boyfriend to kill himself and was exercising free speech. they say they plan to appeal to the u.s. security. molly line reporting live south of boston. >> mitchell carter has been allowed to remain free. but today she's beginning to serve her sentence, more than four years after the death of conrad roy. this is the case that labelled this the case about free speech versus manslaughter. and the judge decided on involuntary man slaughte

gavin debecker has said he's reached the conclusion that jeff bezos' phone was not hacked and that's why he think as government entity could possibly have been the one to acquire thetects messages. >> and are there direct links between david picker the ami company that owns the national enquirer and foreign government? >> we havant uncovered that and haven't reported that. what we reported is that theory has beenxplored by jeff bezos' security consultant. and that one of the reasons he's looking at potential political motivation is lauren sanchez's brugt sr a well known supporter of donald trump. he's considered a conservative and who's consulted during the course of this scandal with people who are or have been close to donald trump. people like roger stone, the famous political dirty trickster and carter page who was mixed up in the investigation in the 2016 election when questions were being asked in congress about trips he had to moscow. >> be clear the brother of the woman who is with bezos is a supporter of donald trump? >> he is a supporter of donald trump, that has been evide

reported last week jeff bezos personally underwrote this private investigation headed by a guy named gavin debeckeras been jeff baize ois top security guy. and there are lists of suspects became so narrow that in term whoofz the leaker was, in terms of their top suspect, real only one name came to the for and that was michael sanchez who happens to be the brother of lauren sanchez who is the jeff bezos' mistress. he happens to be a close associate both business and personal wise to periferal world figures like roger stone and carter page. so they started to suspect. again i'm not sure what concrete evidence they have to support this but they start stood suspect political motivation was not only at the core of the leak but political motivation. cull manated to what happens yesterday when bezos accuses ami and "national enquirer" of blackmailing him. >> so that translates to trump? what you mean by political motivation? >> bezos himself strongly implied that it can could be trump and/or the saudi regime which has had close ties to david picker and the ami empire. and again i must reiterate that this

with the help of gavin debecker. what were they looking for? what was bezos looking for on ami? >> this is the the big-ticket question. why did ami and perker respond so amma nighically. ? it seems they are desperately fearful of something. is it really just about some of their stories are politically motivated? duh. so i think that really is the $64,000 question. >> today the president remained uncharacteristically sound. asked by reporters if the president was aware of the allegation. here's what he said. >> is it president aware of the bezos situation? what is the white house's reaction? >> i'm not sure if he's aware of it. we're not going to get into a conversation about something between jeff bezos and a tabloid magazine. >> president trump has not been shy about sharing his opinion. in january days after the "enquirer" broke its bezos story, the president tweeted so sorry to hear the news about jeff bozo being taken down by a competitor who's reporting i understand is far more accurate than the reporting in his lobbyist newspaper, the amazon "washington post." hopefully th

last week, jeff bezos personally underwrote this private investigation headed by a guy named gavin debecker has been jeff bezos top security guide, into how the leaked text messages got to the "national enquirer" and throughout the course of their investigation, their list of suspects became so narrow that in terms of who the leaker was, in terms of their top suspect, one name came to the fore and that was michael sanchez, the brother of lauren sanchez who is the jeff bezos to be a close as, both business and personal wise to peripheral trump world figures like roger stone and carter page. as bezos said investigators looked more and more into this they started to suspect, i'm not sure if the investigation concluded and what concrete evidence they have to support this, but they suspected at the core of the leak so that all culminated into what happened yesterday when bezos put out the post, accusing ami, and the pecker tabloid of maliciously blackmailing him. >> by political motivation, that translates to trump, that's what was meant by political motivation. >> bezos himself in that medium p

gavin debecker told us that he does not believe that jeff bezos' foep was hacked.e thinks it's possible that a government entity might have gotten hold of his text messages. >> frank, if that got the attention of us civilians kicking around here, i imagine it caught the ear of the former head of counter intel for the fbi. a, what could that mean, and b, talk about the relationship between the kingdom, the saudis, and ami. >> there's been much conjecture this evening, and we all need to proceed cautiously and carefully. there are enough facts on the record to be concerned that there's more to this than just -- and by the way, in a normal world, this would be enough of a story that a tabloid is essentially extorting the head of the "washington post." but there's more. there's more to this, because we don't live in a normal world. we live in a world where people are now wondering whether the kingdom of saudi arabia is somehow working in concert with ami and by the way, there's plenty of evidence of financial relationships, of quid pro quos between the kingdom and ami.

we had jeff bezos says in his media post that he was sparing no expense having hired gavin debecker try to figure out where did the texts come from, and how the photos ended up in the hands of the "national enquirer." there are all sorts of strange stories about it. i interviewed manuel roy francia of the "washington post" on -- i don't know if this was my interview or on "last word," but he was talking about that. take a listen. >> i would add one other thing. you mentioned hacking at the top of the show. gavin de becker told us he does not believe that jeff bezos' phone was hacked. he thinks it's possible that a government entity might have gotten hold of his text messages. >> that was intriguing because you -- over the course of this story unfolding, there have been names of other countries sort of thrown on the table, people have talked about maybe even, you know, the israeli mass ad getting them or a foreign entity or mi6 or something getting these -- the contents of jeff bezos' phone and handing it over somehow to the "national enquirer." what do you make of that? >> i'll tell you

. >> gavin debecker told us that he does he not believe that jeff bezos' phone was hacked.ght have gotten hold of be, we have to be extraordinary recall sfwshl that would obviouslyin pop frrjs zpnch. i think we all need to be tearful this. looking to the recklessness of a. as sfrks and strike a deal that will keep them out of a criminal trial and possibly prison nnks and they don't go after and launch an attack, vicious attack doul as and chase fj frrnl they don't usually do that to tab down. one of the gate use and i completely agree we don't have lk for psh, from. i think the thats with stwrnks i don't know why they published the original story on bezos, it doesn't make any sense. but once they're already in on the story, to give up the pictures that would be sensational, you don't do that for nothing. they had some reason, "the washington post" finding out but they thought, i assume incorrectly, that bezos would kill in exchange for them sitting on these pictures. the problem now for the southern district of new york, there are a lot of things that if you and i went out

sanchez with me on the record, we reported this on media buzz accusing gavin debecker, being a bully,claring world war iii against "the national enquirer." this ugly story is getting even uglier. stuart: is there a further backstory in which an allegation is made that president trump, who opposes jeff bezos, jeff bezos opposes president trump, he threw national security administration, the nsa, leaked these texts? that is another backstory, isn't it? >> well, there is certainly chatter about that. i don't want to dignify it, i don't think it rises to the level of an allegation. where it comes from, stuart, michael sanchez is a trump supporter. he also has relationships or friendships with people caught up in the mueller inquiry, like carter page, like roger stone. but he has dismissed the notion that his ties with trump, he also has plenty of liberal friends has anything to do with this story. you know, some people think jeff bezos is a hero for standing up to the "enquirer"'s parent company, saying he will you bow down to blackmail. he has seen the letter the naked selfies could be r