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his 1st cabinet post was, of course, as education secretary mopping up after gavin williamson and before that these for quite junior positions. what that means for the potential policy platform that is a force johnson survives long enough to put one together. is that nadeem the harvey is going to be a big departure from richey snack. he's somebody who wants low taxes, low spending, and i think would quite happily, you know, re or in the conservative party away from the brand of what's called red tourism, which is dominated since 2019. but again, we'll see if he lost as long as the summer budget. and i should talk specifically about some of the mechanics of british politics. there is some discussion of revisiting the rules of 1922 committee as when it comes to a vote of no confidence. we know, of course, the boys. johnson survived one narrowly now, by benches deciding whether or not to hold another vote, essentially rewriting the rules. what does this mean for british democracy that they prepare to revisit the rules as it were to get the wrong man out of the job? well, again, this speaks

when gavin williamson was running the whip referred theresa may, did you really know what was going onrved more than one of these over _ another. you have observed more than one of these over the _ another. you have observed more than one of these over the years, _ another. you have observed more than one of these over the years, you're i one of these over the years, you're a former biographer, what do you make of this current line—up, is there a buzz, is there any excitement, the party has been in office for 12 years? i excitement, the party has been in office for 12 years?— office for 12 years? i think each leadership _ office for 12 years? i think each leadership race _ office for 12 years? i think each leadership race has _ office for 12 years? i think each leadership race has its - office for 12 years? i think each leadership race has its own i office for 12 years? i think each i leadership race has its own dramas if you _ leadership race has its own dramas if you like. — leadership race has its own dramas if you like, and its own stories. it will always — if you like, and its own

this morning people — gavin williamson.ecame prime minister — stabilisers if she became prime minister. do you endorse these personal— minister. do you endorse these personal attacks on your rivals, or would _ personal attacks on your rivals, or would you — personal attacks on your rivals, or would you like the people in front of you _ would you like the people in front of you not— would you like the people in front of you not to carry them out any more? — of you not to carry them out any more? as — of you not to carry them out any more? as you have heard today, steve. _ more? as you have heard today, steve, putting forward a positive agenda — steve, putting forward a positive agenda i— steve, putting forward a positive agenda. i want to transform our country — agenda. i want to transform our country i— agenda. i want to transform our country. i think the most pressing issues _ country. i think the most pressing issues the — country. i think the most pressing issues the economy. we need to hit the ground — issues the econom