>> gawande: how are you? >> come on in. >> gawande: take me back to when she's pregnant, she's doing great, 39 weeks, your due date is coming, and? >> the collapsed lung would not allow for a c-section. it was too dangerous to be opening her up with all that fluid build up, so sara had vivian basically pushing with one lung. it was so difficult, but she had the baby. you want to be part of that 15% that survives more than five years. you want to be part of that group so badly. and you say to yourself, why not us, you know? it wasn't about "how can we have good days to the end?" we didn't focus on that enough. we're trying to stabilize the situation and try to become a little... spend a little bit of time as a family. but it was just... it was an impossible situation, impossible summer. i mean it's just excruciating. >> gawande: when i came on the scene was when she got diagnosed with a second cancer. you know, in my mind what i was thinking was i wouldn't offer this surgery because the lung cancer is going to

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