you focus on buzzfeed and joiner pereta, you focus on nick denton who created gawker, arianna huffington, and others around her, the founded have post and i'm just interested in that moment and you were there watching all of this come together. in fact, you weeks for the, i don't to call you, the forrest gump of it were hired by one of them. but you knew all of these characters, what did they get right? what did they get wrong? you know, they were among the 1st just to see this way of coming. and there was, you know, there was a huge, particularly if you, on a friday really saw social media was going to be, this was, i don't know already did both of the founder of us, it was going to become the central distribution platform. nick that and who founded docker saw the power of the internet to kind of strip away the artifice that it media. but i think also both to some degree thought they could control these forces and monetize them. and i think that turned out to be a lot harder than they thought. so when you saw this, i mean your early blogger, i wasn't really blue, were on the water. that

be thoughtful about these issues, which was a different strategy but i'm interested when you saw gawker and i was afraid of goc or i never wanted to meet nick denton or any of his people because they were scandal monitors to. yeah, i mean, his philosophy was that, you know, the, the, that the possibility of the internet was to publish the things the journalist said to each other in bar is not the things they said on the internet. which by the way, i think you do not give yourself enough scandal longer and credit is some of what you do. and you were saying stuff that other people were afraid to say about american foreign policy at a moment of washington consensus. but all the big publications were in one place and it was a place for outside hers. and those that are blogs which were basically be early social media. we're a place where outside or is kind of throw spit balls establishment. and i think in early gawker and this side called decibel to be like kind of the iconic thing, they can't tell the folks which is what it was. it was a feminist box still exists, but in its heyday and 2007

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gawker. you are not wanted. do you leave to follow the ball, the former prisoner alexander served his term, was released, took a bed in a hostel. found a bear job caretaker. i would have carrot bread, which means that the diet of a brown bear should consist of at least sixteen components of cereals and fish meat, boiled bone vegetables, flour, and so on, a tormentor. that is, see employers did not hear, alexandra, the immediate owners of the animal do not want to hear. listen, why are you filming me now , you came up to me and asked that we were filming correctly. i’m not lying, of course, the question is who will be responsible for a half-starved bear in the event of an incident, without documents remained unanswered. that you are somehow like that yourself, and we , as we, another attempt to besiege the marginalized in the tyurizing societies and torturing small and large predators, have taken in the state duma a law on toughening administrative responsibility for the improper maintenance of animals has alread

you focus on nick denton who created gawker, arianna huffington, and others around her. the founded house post. i'm just interested in that moment and you were there watching all of this come together. in fact, you weeks for the i don't to call you, the forrest gump of it were hired by one of them. but you knew all of these characters? what did they get right? what did they get wrong? you know, they were among the 1st just to see this way of coming. and there was, you know, there was a huge, particularly if you, on a friday really saw social media was going to be, this was, i don't know already did both of the founder of us, it was going to become the central distribution platform. nick that and who founded docker saw the power of the internet to kind of strip away the artifice that it media. but i think also both to some degree of thought they could control these forces and monetize them. and i think that turned out to be a lot harder than they thought. so when you saw this, i mean your early blogger, i wasn't really blue, were on the water. that's a note. i wrote a kin

gawker. you are not wanted.you know that he is following the ball, the former prisoner alexander served his term, was released, took a bed in a hostel. found a job as a bear caretaker. i would like a carrot bread of something that the fact that the diet of a brown bear should consist of at least sixteen components of cereals and fish meat, boiled bone vegetables, flour, and so on, the tormentor, that is, the caretaker did not hear the employers, alexandra, the direct owners of the animal do not want to hear. listen, why are you filming me now? i approached you, you approached me and they asked what we were filming. right. i'm not lying, of course, the question of who will be responsible for the gender of the criminal bear in the event of an incident remains without documents. in general, some kind of answer is you like this , and we, as we, another attempt to besiege the marginalized, terrorizing society and torturing small and large predators, have taken in the state duma a law on toughening administrative resp

as ben described in his new book big media sites like gawker, and huffington post and buzzfeed use their generate clicks and traffic. they weren't necessarily in the pursuit of advancing one candidate or ideology. they were there to monetize the attention of an audience. as editor-in-chief of buzzfeed news smith helped modify the news department but within that perch he admits he didn't see how right-wing figures with co-op the blogging and media structures. smith writes i certainly hadn't realized the extent to which the right wing populism always seemed to be sitting down the table, looking over its shoulder, learning its lessons. gasoline can create useful energy but can also simply burn. by 2023 it seemed clear the power of this new social energy had been to destroy any institution from the media to the political establishment that it touched. those of us who work in media, politics, and technology are largely concerned now with figuring out how to hold these failing institutions together or to build new ones that are resistant to the forces we helped unleash. joining us now is the m

as ben smith describes in his new book, big media sites like gawker, and the huffington post, and buzzfeed clicks and traffic. they were not necessarily in pursuit of advancing one candidate or ideology. they were there to monetize the attention of an audience. as editor and chief of buzzfeed news from 2011 to 2020, smith helped establish the site's bona fide news department. but even from that perch, he admits he didn't see how right-wing figures would later co-op the blocking and social media structures that some had once believed would further progressive causes. smith writes, i certainly hadn't realize the extent to which right-wing populism always seemed to be sitting just down the white ikea table from this progressive internet scene, looking over its shoulder, learning its lessons. gasoline can create useful energy but it can also simply burn. and by 2023, it seemed clear that the power of this new social energy had been to destroy any institution from the media to the political establishment thatit touched. those of us who work in media, politics, and technology, are largely concer

. >> there was this early moment on the internet, and i was marginally part of it, like gawker and buzzfeedou could see everything and you could see exactly who was looking at what. and when it came to this kind of political stuff, you could see, wow, the most divisive stuff, sometimes the most, the stuff that pushes the edge hardest is what attracts people. and facebook built this kind of a mechanism, where they were looking for engagement, looking to see, what do people stick to and what will people comment on? and often people will comment on the most outrageous thing, the most shocking thing. and there was a period that i think alienated a lot of people from these platforms, where that was where you opened facebook. and what you saw was the thing most likely to outrage you. and that was a choice. >> and that was not always a given. it's hard to remember this now, but there was a brief period where people thought they would be impairsed to share things like that or get into shouting matches on the internet. clearly, not where we've ended up. >> i think we were very utopian about, you kno

which examines the rise of former internet media powerhouses like buzzfeed, the "huffington post" and gawkerelection of the twice-impeached, indicted ex-president. gasoline can create useful energy, but it can also simply burn, and by 2023 it seemed clear that the power of this new social energy had been to destroy any institution from the media to the political establishment that it touched. those of us who work in media, politics and technology were largely concerned now with figuring out how to hold these failing institutions together or how to build new ones resistant to the forces we helped unleash. joining us is ben smith, author of the new book "traffic," the co-founder of semafor. joining me is donny deutsch. >>. >> /* i scooped you on ben. >> what i love about this, it's not defensive. it really is here is what's going on, here is my role in it and what do we do next. i wonder if you can be introspective of how you came to write a book like this. >> i came up in the digital media world in new york and was the editor tore of buzzfeed from 2012 to 2020. i came out of there, i kind of