fred gay.stephanie: flavin is my favorite chapter. >> actually, those are the books >> stephanie: shedd and floyd. >> jim's not here to correct your german. >> stephanie: i'm going to get as many in as i can in this segment. >> better be careful. bucky may correct your german. >> bucky the beaver. >> stephanie: michael hill sick with a piece in the "l.a. times." the election is over but super pacs are still a threat. just as the devil's finest trick is persuading you he doesn't exist, it may be persuading us that citizens united doesn't matter. we've been like thank god that didn't matter. he said one of the big post-election is it showed big-time spending couldn't help donors like sheldon adelson get their way and might have worked against them. the conclusion was wow did he waste his money. or is it sheldon freud? >> was that written there? oh, that's funny. >> stephanie: misplace and dangerous and influenced by corporations still accounts for a lot in our electoral process. citizens united s

it was about gay people. it protected marriage from gay people., gay people are considered such a threat to marriage that in addition to a federal defense of marriage act many states have enacted constitutional amendments banning the practice, including our most populous state, california. and our most reluctant to finally repeal interracial marriage bans, alabama. they did it in the year 2000, roll tide of history. before you get too smug on alabama remember the supreme court didn't even turn it over until 1967 so [bleep] us. but this is different. i mean the supreme court is to the going to get involved if gay marriage. >> same-sex couples are finally getting their day in court. this time the u.s. supreme court justices have decided to hear two constitutional challenges to federal and state lawsment one case involves the federal defense of marriage ago or domo. the other is a challenge toical call's prop 8. >> jon: first of all, i cannot believe he managed to squeeze a report in before prom. second of all-- (laughter) secretary of all, secretary

♪ the issues and personal stories behind the gay marriage cases the supreme court has agreed to hear. it's the most wonderful time of the year ♪ and amid the holiday shopping frenzy, kim lawton reports on how christians are trying to reclaim christmas gift giving from self-indulgence and consumerism. >> what we've done is make it about us, and it's become kind of one of the biggest, gluttonous feasdaysn the christianalendar. ♪ >> welcome, i'm bob abernethy it's good to have you with us. as the country expressed outrage over the deadly shooting rampage at the connecticut elementary school--one of the worst mass shootings ever--faith leaders called for special prayers for the victims, their families, and the children who witnessed the tragedy. amid more debates on capitol hill over e so-cled fiscal cliff, religious groups continued pushing congress to reach a fair deal. several faith groups were also watching closely as the supreme court announced it would take up two important cases dealing with same - sex marriage. today, we have a special report from tim o'brien on the issues and per

citizens, family members, would be for gay marriage; right? i think it's become a symbol for many people, even many people who probably are not even going to enter gay marriages. it's become a symbol of the idea of respect for gay people and their relationship. >> guest: right. i want to interrupt you there because sometimes when you say "symbol," people on my side think you are dismissive, it's just a symbol for you people, but symbols are important. >> host: the flag is a symbol. it's a symbol. >> guest: not just a symbol; right? >> host: no, no, exactly. you know, if you come at it from a cultural perspective, you know, symbols are the sacred octobers through which and by which we constitute reality. there's people on my side, on the conservative side saying, oh, realm, you know, it's just a symbol, and, it's like, money is real, and the question of, you know, how we're going to understand marriage moving forward is just something fluffy unless you deal with the legal incidence of marriage, and i think that we have a very weakened marriage

the therapy: treatments aimed at turning gay kids straight.t because the american psychological association says gay conversion therapy can cause depression and suicide attempts. big deal! so does lunesta. (laughter) that's just ambien for gay people. that's why there's a butterfly. fortunately -- that's true. it's true. fortunately, federal judge william shove told california to shove it. >> the state of california has been blocked from enforcing a new ban on therapy that seeks to change the sexual orientation of minors from gay to straight. a federal judge ruled the law may inhibit the first amendment rights of therapists who oppose homosexuality. >> stephen: damn straight! these kids need our help. not only are they gay, look how blurry they are! (laughter) that's all right. folks, this is a good call because these anti-gay treatments are proven. a recent lawsuit in new jersey highlighted some of the most effective methods anti-gay therapists use. >> in another exercise a man has to break through a human barricade that i was a part of in or

as a gay person, a gay adult, there are kids out there, not all lgbt are alone. parents love and support you and you have a gsa and friends who have your back, never a better time in history to be a queer student. if you are a queer kid whose family is hostile, which doubles your risk of suicide, you are bullied at school, never a worse time to be a queer kid than now. there are a couple suicides in the news. i wrote about them. i obsessed with the kids who needed a support group but live where there isn't one or parents who never gave them permission to attend one. it occurred to me, i was waiting for permission. in the youtube era, it never required that. i could speak to them. we could deliver it to the kid that didn't have a family or community to bring it to them using youtube. i think when a kid kills himself for being queer, he says i can't picture a future to help the pain i'm in now. there are a lot of happy and successful gay people out there. we are able to illuminate that path sharing our stories. in some ways, there are two audiences. part of recon f

advocates of gay marriage saw new momentum. in the november elections, three more states legalized same-sex marriage-the first time it had been approved in ballot initiatives. and voters in minnesota rejected a proposed ban on gay marriage. both sides of the debate were galvanized by the supreme court's announcement that it will be taking up two cases with national implications in the spring. ten years after the catholic church's clergy sex abuse crisis exploded, a high-ranking priest in philadelphia became the first church official to be convicted for failing to report abuse. monsignor william lynn was found guilty of child endangerment and sentenced to up to six years in prison. and in kansas city, bishop robert finn was convicted of a misdemeanor for not reporting the discovery of child pornography on a priest's computer. finn's sentence of two-year's probation was suspended. he was the first bishop to be criminally sanctioned. there were leadership transitions for several major religious groups. new orleans pastor fred lute

there was no gay in high school back then. people called each other gay, but it was a slur. but now they have actual full on gay high schools if i am right. don't they have one? >> there is one in new york. >> the harvey milk high school? i was wondering because they would call people gay in my high school. i don't know how many of them -- >> what do they do -- >> what do they do in the gay high school? do they make a guy and girl hold hands for punishment? >> we laugh, but that is a point. >> we laugh. from one punishment to another, as players grapple so do some fans with their issues. yes, the nfl stronglien urge cs those ejected for bad behavior to complete a four-hour on-line course on anger management. that's before they are allowed to return to a game. according to the new york times, the simmer down session covers stadium codes of conduct, disruptive it behavior and alcohol abuse. there is even a quiz at the end which is my favorite part. also, students must pay $55 for the privilege of learning how to hug rather than heckle. said an nfl spokesperson, the on-line cou

it gandalf the gay.>> stephen: so tell me, please -- >> and you get to find out who is his favorite dwarf. >> stephen: i can't wait to see it in 3-d is all i'm saying. (laughter) how do you feel what is it like dealing with those tolkien nerds, those guys who must come up to you -- >> people like you? >> stephen: well, i guess, yes. >> you are the sweetest, most intelligent caring people that you meet, seriously. i went down in comicon in san diego. all the fans are there, all the geeks and nerds so, called. i go down and see them sleeping out, waiting for our presentation, they turn out to be teachers and students and literary majors. >> stephen: and pundit. >> and pundits. >> stephen: what about the people who are really annoying who think they-- i know more about your character than you do, ian mckellen, and they -- >> are you back to yourself again. >> stephen: what? well, i guess i do know a lot about it. >> i bet you know what gandalf's middle name is. >> stephen: 50 shades. >> there you go. do you

gay community.008, the mormon church urged its members to get heavily involved in passing proposition 8, which banned gay marriage in california. and ever since then, the relationship between gays and mormons have been very strained. the church has seen itself really be -- come under attack by gay rights advocates. and ever since then, the church has tried to make efforts to kind of extend an olive branch. the most significant news here, with this new website, is that it included a statement where for the first time in kind of the most clear it's ever been, the church acknowledges that sexuality is not a choice. it says that gay people do not choose to be gay. and that's significant. the church is not changing its position in terms of what it calls a gay lifestyle. >> i'm going to bring that up because there's a -- let me bring that up. there's a statement on that site that also says the experience of same-sex attraction is a complex reality for many people. the attraction itself is not a sin, but a

it says that gay people do not choose to be gay. and that's significant. not changing its position in terms of what it calls a gay lifestyle. >> i'm going to bring that up because there's a -- let me bring that up. there's a statement on that site that also says the experience of same-sex attraction is a complex reality for many people. the attraction itself is not a sin, but acting on it is. tim, when you see something like that, it seems -- it seems to me, there's a little bit of threading the needle here in they are saying in effect, you know, it's like many evangelicals will say, hate the sin, love the sinner. >> it's catholic teaching that everybody and i'm a catholic and i know that everybody is a -- is created in the image of god. and one of the problems of the anti-gay marriage movement is that some of it has been based in bigotry and hating gay people or hating people for their attractions. the catholic teaching and much of the christian teaching is saying this isn't about who you are or what your proclivities are. it has to do with certain behavi

the gay men's chorus who are performing here tonight.e i'm going to turn this over to my dear friend stuart who is harvey's nephew and someone himself who has been speaking out all around the world for civil rights and equality for all. stuart? [cheering and applauding] >> thank you. it's very interesting thanksgiving this week. i was mentioning to the moscone family did not fall on this remembrance. and therefore, the milk family, we were all together and we actually had a little bit more joy because we did have a week that separated it. it's a very tough time for my family since 1978. it's difficult to try to explain. i don't think i could have done as good of a job as jonathan, how tough that is. harvey was a part of every milestone, large and small in my life, for 17 years. and i just can't attempt to explain that loss in words. but there is a connection with the emotions that jonathan shared and that i have shared with rebecca that goes beyond my ability to put the warmth of these remembrances here in san francisco, the meaning of t

many are gay owned. many employ gay people. 85% of those businesses told us that the naked guys are negatively affecting their business and costing them financially. their customers are telling them that they're not comfortable and shopping in the neighborhood. thank you. >> thank you. next speaker. >> hello i am woody miller and i of a san francisco resident for 30 years and a resident of the castro for 25 years. and i have heard a lot here today about people complaining about the nudists and people have complained about many things. in history they complained about gay people on the streets and doesn't mean they should be banned and i want to say there is nothing wrong with the human body and i have heard about body parts and peen iseses and you have to look at the body in its totality and the idea that it's obscene or indecent is learned behavior which i makes it a form of big tree and we don't hurt anyone and we want the freedom to dress or not dress the way we chose when the weather is nice and i ur

sex and criminalize gay sex. these laws came before the courts, both state courts and federal courts over the years, ending with a resounding defeat for gay civil rights advocates a supreme court decision called bowers versus hardwick in 1986. that decision had declared any, what the court called right to homosexual sodomy was at, there was no fundamental right to such a thing. that there was no right of privacy extended to protect gay people and their intimacy, even in their own homes, and even as adults. and there, the law, constitutional law stood until lawrence v. texas came along in 2003 and change that. there was a development happening at the same time, which is that the states, one by one, were either repeatedly legislatively or having overturned through judicial action their own state sodomy laws. so we went from situation in 1960, where all 50 states had some kind of sodomy law which applied to both heterosexual and gay sexual activity. two, by making it six, about half the states still having such laws

the gay men's chorus who are performing here tonight.e i'm going to turn this over to my dear friend stuart who is harvey's nephew and someone himself who has been speaking out all around the world for civil rights and equality for all. stuart? [cheering and applauding] >> thank you. it's very interesting thanksgiving this week. i was mentioning to the moscone family did not fall on this remembrance. and therefore, the milk family, we were all together and we actually had a little bit more joy because we did have a week that separated it. it's a

gay sex. these laws came before the courts but state courts and federal courts over the years ending with a resounding defeat for gay civil rights advocates and a supreme court decision called -- that decision had declared that any of the court call righted to homosexual sodomy was at best facetious. there was no fundamental right to a thing. there was no right of privacy that extended to protect gay people and the intimacy even as adults. the law stood, the constitutional law stood until lawrence v. texas came along in 2003 and changed that. there was a development happening, though, at the same time which is that the states won -- one by one were prearling repealing legislatively or the own stated soily laws. we went from a situation in 1960 all fifty states had some kind of sodomy law which applies to heterosexual and gay sexual activity. to by 1986 about half the states having such laws. to 2003, when lawrence decided and still had thirteen states with such law. they were on the way out of

there will be a gay job explosion. boy the way do not google the term gay job-- nation, this blatant devaluing of gay partners is great for any company's bottom line. or top line, he wouldn't know, i'm not into that lifestyle. folks, next up on-- the wag thing i as the kids call it, mi such a stanch supporter of the right to bear firearms that i'm up set we can't bear fire legs. that's too limbs that aren't shooting something. so you know i was pumped as a 12 gauge to see the students with gun permits can get their own segregated dorms at the university of colorado. forever insurancing that no one will think of it as a safety school. but folks, i'm sorry, i have to give a wag of my finger at university of colorado students because not one signed up to live in the gun dorm. come on. this is college. time to get crazy. do shots, take shots, get shot. maybe join a fraternity like i'm a poppa capa. (applause) good bunch of guys. let's face it, living in a gun dorm is not any more life threatening than spending 160,000 doll

voters who will always be women and black and gay.genuous for republicans to say we're pro-pot and then young people we're pro-pot. i don't think that looks very good so i think as i've said before when it comes to gay marriage and pot, maybe a less strident message is a good one, a more inclusive message. we have talked about ways the republican party can be sort of more open about gay marriage and decriminaliziing marijuana, too. i don't think catering to young people is really the authentic way to go. >> do you think a smaller government issue, right? government getting out of your bedroom that if people want to smoke a little weed, go ahead. it is okay. >> i want a big tentç party an voices like ran paul to exist without being castigated out of the party for having those voices. that's inclusion. what i don't want is for people with traditional views on certain things to feel like they have no party. no one represents them anymore. so i think if the republican party can be that big tent and say, well, there's room for you here, b

>> president obama is endorsing a proposal by the illinois state legislature to legalizing gay marriage. if this is a rare move by a president as most presidents do not weigh in on state legislative matters. chicago state senator heather steans is expected to introduce a gay marriage proposal later this week. if the proposal passes, ill. will become the 10th state to approve same-sex marriage. in the midwest has approved a gay marriage through its legislator. >> we will be right back.