cabal," "gay clique." >> john: right and other nouns include a gay brunch air, man pile.abin crew. and oscar party or a palm springs traffic jam. ( laughter ) if there is a gay lobby, what is it that they want? how much damage could they do? >> so there have been long rumor here's that the gay lobby drove pope benedict from the church. >> john: that is just ridiculous. a gay lobby did not drive pope benedict from the church because if they had, it would have looked like this. ♪ ♪ ( cheers and applause ) >> john: you've got to admit, that would have been one hell of an exit. the bottom line to all of this is no matter what country you live in, what religion you belong to, it seems crazy that in this day and age, anyone has a problem with which gender you want to, uhm-- what's the phrase? >> what to do sex with each ( c( c ( cheers and applause ). >> john: welcome back to the show. earlier this week, one of america's most prominent politicians had some big news. >> she is the most traveled secretary of state in u.s. history, but there was one place hillary clinton had yet t

gay people of course, a gay couples get the legal protections of marriage if it is enacted but that is hardly the most of its. they also get a richer love, as a destination whether you ultimately gets the first kiss, a pate, going steady to end in love than they get the enormous personal benefits that marriage alone conveys that married people are healthier and prosperous and more secure less drugs, less crime, less instability and the even live longer. that is all citizens ought to have access and will benefit from integration into the culture of marriage. the straight world gets the additional stability when you have people into family which is what marriage uniquely does. i have a cousin right now six years old married in suffering from cancer and her husband is keeping her alive. not just physically but emotionally. if he was not there, a charity, welfare, the kids do their best there is no substitute for the love and care of a fat -- spouse but nobody can reasonably say that ociety has a stake in the marriage. above all it is a likely beneficiary of same-sex marriage. this is an o

>>> coming up -- supporters of gay marriage cheered the supreme court's decisions they said moved the country closer to full marriage equality. tim o'brien reports on those and other rulings this week, and kim lawton sums up reactions from religious communities. >> it's very gay and lesbian, bisexual and transgendered americans can finally enjoy. federal recognition and protection that laws so long extended to their fellow citizens. >> our churches are going to have to be ready to live in a world in which we cannot simply assume a definition of marriage and family. >>> also -- calling attention to genocide around the world, people from all 50 states made artificial bones to display on washington's national mall. >>> welcome, i'm bob abernethy. it's good to have you with us this week of important and controversial supreme court decisions. tim o'brien reports on the court's rulings on gay marriage, on voting rights, and on race as a factor in admissions to colleges and universities. then, kim lawton sums up the reactions of religious communities to the court's gay marriage decisions. ti

he allowed gay marriages in 2004. we will talk with the lieutenant governor tonight and get the reaction to the defeat of proposition 8. >>> it is the decision heard around the state. new at 5:30, we're at the state capital where high-promile openly gay lawmakers found out gay marriage was legal again in california. >> it could impact hundreds of thousands of writers. the results of a strike vote by workers. >> why the supreme court decision on gay marriage was welcomed but still falls short. >> and right after the break, it's heating up. the fog is clearing for most locations and temperatures on the rise. how hot in your neighborhood tomorrow? i'll have the details. look at 'em. living on cloud nine with that u-verse wireless receiver. you see in my day, when my mom was repainting the house, you couldn't just set up a tv in the basement. i mean, come on! nope. we could only watch tv in the rooms that had a tv outlet. yeah if we wanted to watch tv someplace else, we'd have to go to my aunt sally's. have you ever sat o

but marco rubio being anti-gay, marco rubio having anti-gay policy positions is not a surprise. he's never taken a pro gay rights position on anything really. and it was just yesterday that he said he would blow up the whole immigration reform issue. he would blow up this whole thing that he has been working on, that he staked his whole political future on, he will kill the whole idea of immigration reform if immigration reform applies to gay people, too. >> this bill has in it something that gives gay couples immigration rights and so forth, it kills the bill. i'm gone. i'm off it and i've said that repeatedly. and i don't think that's going to happen and it shouldn't happen. >> i'm gone. i'm off it. that shouldn't happen. so marco rubio, the supposed future of the republican party, says there should be no immigration reform if it also would apply to gay people. and he says it should be legal in this country for your boss to fire you because he found out you're gay or because he's decided he thinks that you're gay. maybe nothing should be surprising about social conservative po

it is now clear that discrimination against gay people solely because they are gay violates the united states constitution. indeed, as justice kennedy explained, that's all that doma ever was, a statute whose sole purpose was to denigrate gay and lesbian americans as second class citizens. 17 long and painful years after its passage and at a time when most of those who originally voted for it have since recanted, section 3 of the defense of marriage act is finally dead and gone and not a moment too soon. after so many dark decades of living their lives hidden in the closet, gay and lesbian couples throughout this nation can now begin to participate as fully as members of the american family. this is not mere abstract justice, it has real life consequences, not only for edie windsor who will get her money back but for so many thousands of americans watching today. it means, for example, married gay couples don't have to worried about the unfair burden of the estate tax, the loss of social security, the lack of leave from a job to care for a sick or dying spouse, or the inability of a su

nearly five years ago, californians voted to ban gay marriage. today the supreme court steps in and gay marriage will once again be allowed. the high court dismissed the case and leaves in place a lower court's ruling that stated that prop 8 was unconstitutional. but wedding bells won't be ringing soon. the ninth circuit court of appeals will wait 25 days to clear the way for gay marriages to begin again. the justices struck down doma the federal defense of marriage act. >>> we have live team coverage from the bay area to washington, d.c. and that's where we will begin with nbc bay area's cheryl hurd. >> reporter: some people stood in line up to 20 hours to get a seat inside the u.s. supreme court. anticipation was high but in the end not everyone was happy. >> how you doing? >> reporter: there were long lines waiting to secure the coveted seats inside the supreme court to hear today's ruling. once the few got in, the justices ruled doma unconstitutional. >> i applaud their efforts to take something that is discriminatory off the books. >> report

looks like a gay wedding invitation. on the back, i bet it asks you to check salmon or vegan paella. that could be national treasure 3. call me, nick cage. worst of all, folks, in settling this gay marriage controversy, they in fact settled nothing. >> the thing about striking down doma is it doesn't affect any state's right to ban or to allow same sex marriage. >> we have marriage rights in california. we've got marriage rights overall in 12 states and we've got federal marriage rights but we still have unequal recognition of marriages in 38 other states so we do have a very interesting patchwork system. >> stephen: the supremes really screwed the pooch here which i'm sure is also legal now. here's how it works. you're married in new york. you're not married in alabama. what gives? i'm as confused as a freshman frat pledge who really enjoyed that spanking machine. and folks, i am taking the decision on doma extra hard here because i was in such a good mood after yesterday's great decision. >> today the supreme court ess

and on gay -- on gay marriage, he did this one bad thing.ou have to remember, i think, in putting that into context how fast things have changed. in 2009, 13 years after he signed that, and only, what is it, four years ago, when i introduced the respect for marriage act to repeal doma, i had members of congress, liberals, gay groups saying, don't do it. don't introduce a repeal doma bill. it's getting the wrong issue on table. we should concentrate on employment, nondiscrimination act, don't get into that we do bait, four years ago. now it looks like a mild thing. look how fast this is changing. he couldn't have anticipated that. >> nothing worse than being a leader, getting out there and looking over your shoulder and finding no one behind you. that's kind of what he was seeing. also the heat of the campaign thing. i think the worst thing that happened -- i thought he showed his real commitment after he got elected and did these executive orders and tried to change the military. and he had been so active in the democratic leadership council

i was not born gay. you say you were born gay. >> i don't know if you're gay. stephen: but you thought i was. you guessed. i assume you support federal recognition of gay marriage until your husband forgets to take out the garbage, am i right? men! can't live with them. legally can't live with them in some states. >> that's a problem. stephen: what is it about my god-sanctioned marriage that you most want to destroy? >> nothing. in fact... >> stephen: you are. you're harming it. >> i've harmed your marriage. stephen: you have. in what way. stephen: because if i could have gotten gay-married, why wouldn't i have done that instead? guys are great. >> well, you could get divorced potentially and marry a man if that's... >> stephen: now you're suggesting that i get divorced, and you say you're not destroying my marriage. >> you haven't gotten divorced. stephen: but you just tempted me with that. you should get divorced. >> i'm not tempting you. stephen: i'm not tempted at all. because i'm now married. i believe in the oath i took. the oath to be married, and i am.

this decision will lower taxes for gay couples.s the hook to get republicans to calm down. if you're a same sex employee, and your employer provides insurance coverage for your spouse, you have a higher tax burden than an equivalent straight couple. 25 days from now when doma is truly and finally dead that goes away. we'll have a tax savings for healthcare provideed benefits. across the border there are things in the u.s. code, and in countless ways gay and lesbian familiars will be far better off in terms of our pocketbooks, and having a law and code that affirms our love for each other. >> john: it's truly inspiring one justice who upheld dom waxer was he himself was in a marriage that would have been illegal years ago. when will it be legal in all 50 states, and if not what is the law that will hold them back? >> it will happen. it's not happening tomorrow. >> john: in our lifetime? >> i think so. >> john: mississippi? >> i don't think by virtue of the mississippi legislature but i do think the nation--the arc bends towards equa

gay marriage is legal in california.s reaction where then mayor defied state law, openly allowing gay couples to tie the knot nine years ago. that is reaction in the castro district where the ruling is being hailed as historic. happening now, supporters are celebrating the high court's ruling. the streets have now been blocked off to accommodate a rally there scheduled to get underway in just half an hour. we'll take you there live in just a moment. first let's go to oakland. a celebration is happening there as well. >> the party started around 5:00. you can see that the music and celebration continues. supporters are celebrating the street party in response to a decision handed down on prop 8 and doma. not only acknowledging this as a victory but say there is more work owe to do until there is marriage equality.

gays going back to the christian coalition.how do you oppose -- how do you answer justice kennedy saying, to oppose gay marriage is to deny equality to people who deserve equal protection? >> he is denying dignity to the millions of americans who for moral or religious reasons believe that gay marriage is wrong. as you just said, you've got 37 states where the people have decided that they want to protect the marriage between a man and a woman, because they know that that's the environment where children can thrive and succeed. that's been proven. so it's not about the desires of adults, it's really about the best environment for children. we're talking all about politics. but the reason governments at the state level and the federal level have recognized marriage between a man and a woman is because it's better for our country and it's better for children. >> but justice kennedy addressed that issue specifically. he says that by denying marriage rights to same-sex couples, who have kids, you're humiliating and demeaning those

in fact, i'm pretty sure a gay blood transfusion is how you get gay.ughter) >> stephen: it's like being bitten by a radioactive spider. you get all the gay superpower superstrength, web slinging and the desire to wear skin tight spandex on broadway. next on the roundup-- , like a true american, i love all things disney. mostly because all things are owned by disney. (laughter) an my favorite show is the disney channel good luck charlie, a family sitcom about the ups and downs of raising five children. now as a fan i feel like i've been kicked right in the mickeys because in a first for the disney channel, next season one of little charlie's play dates will be with a kid who has two moms. two moms! they'll probably be having their own play date with crayons and construction paper, or as they call it, scissoring. (laughter) >> stephen: oh, i know, i know. ugly stuff. folks, i am outraged and i am not alone. the faith and freedom network and foundation railed, the entertainment industry is doing everything humanly possible to normalize homosexual relation

supposedly gay so probably 10% of those are gay. think is a confusing term. we use lobby to mean someone putting forth a certain agenda lobbying for a cause. gay lobby would mean lobbying for gay causes then they should be fired because they are doing a poor job of it with regard to the catholic church. so that is not what we are talking about. probably gay clique is a better word. the concern is this. if there is, in fact, a gay group, it makes them perhaps more vulnerable, some have said for blackmail. they were supposed to make a report back to pope benedict. they did. some said in that report there was mention of a gay lobby that made the vatican vulnerable. so that seems to be what is resurfacing here in the remarks of pope francis, again off the record remarks where he refers to the gay lobby and says now we have to deal with it. what that means we do not yet know. >> i like how you say it helps us understand not a gay lobby but a gay clique. what might that mean for the church's stance on homosexuality? >> it is only problema

>> they are about gay rights in the historic sense of it. the supreme court did not announce, for example, there is a right to same-sex marriage. it did not touch that question. it did not announce a broad standard for strict constitutional scrutiny of laws that might be set to discriminate against homosexuals. instead what it said is much narrower but still important. that is, if a state wants to recognize a same-sex union, then disparaging that choice, treating that marriage like it's not a real marriage, does violate equal protection. and so as a matter of constitutional law, this does remain a question for the states. but i think that gay rights advocates, the lgbt community will look at this and see it as validation of a basic point their marriages are equal. >> does it strike you as odd the supreme court said look, federal government, you have to respect what the states say the definition of marriage is. except when it comes to california where we're not going to respect what the 52% of the people said in voting for prop 8. >> well, yo

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grounds saying you shouldn't discriminate against gay people because they're gay, or it may happen on a states rights grounds. there was reference to states rights, to federalism. that was referenced in the ruling, it seems like it wasn't the main thrust of the ruling, is that right? >> i agree. this committee did what we have to do, and one of the things that we said that was so pernicious about doma, and showed what was really at stake, it was a statute about denigrating gay people, it was the first time ever, in our country's history, where the federal government failed to respect the marriage laws of the state. and that that fact showed what was really going on here, it wasn't about anything other than treating gay couples differently because they were gay. thank god the court understood that. >> justice scalia responded to that point by saying, well, if you can't say that -- you can't have laws just because you don't like gay people, then we're really in trouble, and this means the states are not going to be allowed to decide that marriage equality doesn't apply in their state. t

they is not being born gay. gay is a spirit that comes in the person. you can refute that.homosexuals can turn her way from being homosexuals. it is not a disease. that said, it is ridiculous what is going on. ask youwould like to two questions. where do you attend church, and how old are you? .aller: i am 47 i attend church in kendall. thank you for calling me this morning. guest: one thing we are going to have to look at with the gay marriage decision is how this .ffects polygamy there was an interesting piece yesterday on buzz feed. floralked applicants for meritor closely watching these decisions what they thought -- what theyal marriage thought, and it was celebrated by them. so we have to look at the construct of the one man-one- woman marriage. what right do we have to tell ribs of consenting adults who pleuralenter into a marriage that that is unjust and it should be illegal? ,ost: hillary in potomac maryland on our democrats line. caller: the independent caller from california is wrong when he says the state did not do its job in defending prop 8. it did. intervene

president obama is hailing this as a major victory, not just for gay americans and gay rights activists in a statement, he says he applauds the supreme court's decision. he said the defense of marriage act specifically was, quote, discrimination enshrined in law. and he recognizes the court for ending that discrimination. i want to call your attention to an interesting paragraph in his statement that leads to a lot of what we're going to be focusing on in the days to come. he says, quote, we welcome today's decision, and i've directed the attorney general to work with other members of my cabinet to review all relevant federal statutes to ensure this decision, including its implications for federal benefits and obligations, is implemented swiftly and smoothly. and what he's talking about there, ashleigh, is the fact that there are 38 states that do not recognize same-sex marriage. and while -- and now, there is a big question about how federal benefits will be treated in those states. that question is up to the president, and his administration has to answer that question -- what happens

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the court didn't go as far as gay rights advocates had hoped. it did not order all states to allow same-sex marriage. but it will have an immediate impact on tens of thousands of gay couples nationwide. gay rights supporters crowded outside the court, cheering the historic decision. first a ruling striking down a law passed by congress in 1996, the defense of marriage act known as doma. >> doma is dead. >> reporter: it blocked the federal government from recognizing same-sex marriages in the states that allow them, depriving couples of more than 1,000 benefits that other married couples have. in a 5-4 ruling written by anthony kennedy, they said doma serves no legitimate government purpose and demeans those who are in a lawful same-sex marriage declaring their marriages are less worthy and humiliating tens of thousands of children raised by same-sex couples. eddie windsor, socked with a $360,000 tax bill, when her spouse died, leaving her the estate. doma blocked the irs from considering them married and exempt from estate taxes. >> we won every

gay rights advocates are celebrating tonight. the supreme court finished up its term with a pair of 5-4 rulings that while complicated left pro-gay marriage forces claiming victory. correspondent shannon bream has our coverage tonight. >> reporter: the supreme court handed same-sex marriage advocates two significant wins, first striking down a portion of the defense of marriage act which blocked same sex couples, even if legally married in their respective states, from collecting various federal benefits. writing for the majority, anthony kennedy said, quote, the federal statute is invalid, for no legitimate purpose comes the purpose to disparage and injure those whom the state by its marriage laws sought to protect in person hood and dignity. scalia was unconvinced by the majority assurances that this decision wasn't passing judgment on the underlying issue of the legality of same-sex marriage. therefore bypassing the wilf individual states and voters. quote, we might have covered ourselves with honor today by promising all side

so california arguably had gay american, lost gay marriage, just got gay marriage back.witter i will be glad to perform your gay marriage. it would be my honor to marry couples who want to be married. >> i just want to b invited. it would be cool. does this go into effect immediately? >> hal: yeah. insofar as i know. the law was undone by the court and this just says the court was right to do that. that was months ago. >> i have nothing to wear! [ laughter ] >> hal: perfect outfit. >> t-shirts. >> we'll have matthew breen on in the next hour. he will be calling in to talk more about this and he can give details because they've been doing excellent coverage on this as well. >> hal: as have you. i thank you for stepping in. the phones are ringing off the hook so i'll send you back throughout to do that. but i want you more out here. >> i will be back, callers. >> we just want you out -- >> hal: in so many ways. as the one gay person in the room congratulations. >> doma went into effect right after i came out. that was the first message i got from the government. it was a s

type the word gay or gay pride and the search box becomes  outlined. was rolled out weeks ago at start of gay pride month. many people are just now noticing it as they search today for information about proposition 8 and doma. >>> wall street posted gains. this was in spite of news that the economy grew at a slower rate than expected. 1.8% as opposed to 2.4%. >>> crews are working to repair a leak to a reactor at the nuclear power plant. the leak was discovered today in unit one during a routine maintenance check. the leak was contained within the plant and no radiation was released into the environment. pg&e says it doesn't know when the reactor will be back online. >>> a dangerous rescue, a woman fell halfway down this bay area cliff today. what it took to bring her to safety. >>> today's supreme court ruling could mean more than just an emotional boost for the community. >> the boost gay marriage will bring to the local economy. >>> how soon we could have triple digit heat and your complete forecast. >>> news chore 2 was over the scene where a woman

gay marriage equality. nomad or where you live the federal government will recognize it. >> you're on the bipartisan group. speaker boehner -- the republican leadership was the one who told them to defend before the supreme court. do you know what the cost of that was? how they a matter of spent the money. $2.3 million of taxpayer money was wasted on this pursuit. it is really unfortunate. what was interesting to me was they kept talking about the bipartisan committee. it was not bipartisan in the vote at all. why mr.-2 and that is nadler took the lead on the amicus brief. it was $2.3 million. i would hope that the court decision would put at least that part of doma to rest as we try to undo the rest of it. we shall see but $2.3 million. it was done in a way that was not according to the regular order but that is a whole other subject. maybe another day we will go into the details of how the engaged there contract. we want to salute the cord and celebrate the victory and extend our greatest gratitude to win

blanca ---precisamente, san francisco ha sido el epicentro de la batalla para lograr los matrimonios gayilar niÑo estuvo alli desde temprano para hablarnos sobre lo vivido al darse el anuncio. take pkg ; pkg centenares de personas abarrataron la alcaldia de san francisco desde las seis y media la manana para ser los primeros en conocer la decision. yeah, si estamos celebrando y pasaron mas de veinte minutos antes de que fuera claro que era una celebracion, doble, que incluso trajo lagrimas fue todo lo que esperabamos y mas hoy igualdad gano para todos primero. los homosexuales tendran nuevamente el derecho legal de casarse en california. aunque la corte suprema de justicia no se pronuncio directamente sobre la proposicion 8, dijo que los que apelaron la decision que la declaro inconstitucion al no tenian el derecho legal de hacerlo... el que tenia el derecho era el estado de california y el estado se nego a apelar asi estos matrimonios podrian reanudarse en california de ahora al final de julio. gritar y reir y llorar un poquito vamos a celebrar toda la noche mas de una ovacion recibio e

>> i'm also gay. >> so it was the gay part of you? >> right. >> that was bullied? >> right, exactly. >> okay, but as a christian, you must admit you need protection from people like you. >> that's insane. >> this intolerance gay thug was just getting warmed up. >> evangelical christians not experiencing bullying. it's a giant temper tantrum that they don't get to be in charge anymore and that they have to share their toys. >> okay, i don't think the evangelical christians want to play with your gay toys. there's not enough clorox in the world. closed minded gay agendists like todd weren't willing to reach out to the other side the way matt was. >> i have homosexual friend. >> okay, that's so cool. >> i had a friend at the gym back in southern california where he sat down next to me in a jacuzzi, and i knew right away he was gay. >> how did you know? >> i just knew. and we became friends for a year. we were sitting in the car together after going dancing together and having fun and doing movies. and he told me. and i said, "yeah, i knew." and he said, "what do you m

up to 100 people took part in a gay pride rally. they were confronted by anti-gay activists. two weeks ago, russia's parliament passed a law banning what is called homosexual propaganda. that includes gay pride marches. a decade-long battle has come to and for k couples -- end for gay couples in california. the supreme court handed down a ruling strengthening the rights of same-sex couples. many thought it would be several weeks before marriages resumed. courthouse.e to the >> i do. fought long sandy and hard for the right to wed. they sued the state of california to get the gay marriage ban overturned. the couple tied the knot just one hour after the decision. to lastnted our love and be dignified by the institution of marriage. we have tried to get married. finally, we got to really get married today. today is a wonderful day for us. >> on wednesday, the pair were at the supreme court in washington. the court struck down a provision denying federal health and pension benefits to gay .ouples the court also upheld a lower court ruling that found california's ban on gay marria

the prop 8 case says nothing about gay rights or same-sex marriage. all it says is that the people who were defending proposition 8 didn't have no business being here, did not have the proper legal standing to bring a challenge, therefore, the lower court decision stands. the decision of the trial judge who found prop 8 unconstitutional and the decision so same-sex marriage can now resume in california after it was stopped by proposition 8. now on doma, again, the supreme court says nothing about whether states must permit same-sex marriage. it is silent on that point. what it says is that when a state chooses to allow same-sex marriage, the federal government can't pick and choose and say, well, we're going to recognize opposite sex couples' marriages but not same-sex couples' marriages. justice kennedy says that part which was struck down today seems to be based on animus, on a desire to say that same-sex couples are not deserving of recognition by the federal government and justice kennedy and the majority that joins him says basically the federal