joining me now, gayle trotter the crisis network and mother of four boys herself. ve met most of them and they are wonderful young men. gayle, what is your reaction to this? we traced it from academia, the fringe, you know about this. it's all through culture pushed by hollywood and into business politics, schools. >> right. i think we have a responsibility to our young boys and men to explain that we expect them to grow up to be responsible members of our society. and you take that, all of this marching through our culture and now we see the angry women of the left picking this up. and, unfortunately, they are missing the boat on this entire conversation. th ti think they feel like this nutty rhetoric will help them fire up their base but mostt people understand that these are our husbands, our sons, our brothers.our co-workers. >> laura: they also want to deny testosterone exist. it exists and throughout time throughout our culture for a variety of reasons, we don't need anymore because not doing heavy lifting in the workplace but that is a biological difference b