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this is gb energy.o join things up and it will become another quango that tries to chivvy private enterprise to do what it's already doing. and actually what you really want is the right incentives so that private enterprise will enter into the market and deliver. and it has done that on offshore wind. we need it to do the same on things like geothermal energy. >> two do you think we're consulting people enough as to whether or not they are on board the net zero boss? because it does feel to a lot of people, like it's just kind of forced upon people. do you think there should have been a referendum on this a little while back, before people had all these targets committed to? >> well, i mean, you could have a referendum on anything, but we know what happens when you have referendums and people have a free for all. so i would be a fan of that. what happens when i think actually there is hang on, what do you mean when you said, you know what happens when people have a referendum? >> what do you mean? >> w

that's the setting up gb energy.hat's the keir starmer's idea, which he has been talking about on the campaign trail today. that would mean the establishment of a publicly owned clean energy company that would help to protect the uk from spikes in the price of fuel, like those that have followed russia's invasion of ukraine. the party says the firm would be headquartered in scotland and funded through a windfall tax on big oil and gas firms, with an initial 8.3 billion capitalisation over the course of parliament. so i suppose the question that we want to answer this evening is whether it will work. lord marland joins me. he's a former minister for energy and climate change and business, and clive moffatt is also in the studio , a former also in the studio, a former government adviser on energy shapps. let's start with you, lord marland. will it work? >> well, i think it's a great idea, these things, and one should always applaud an initiative that, looks to smooth out the energy prices. and there's obviously a lot o

having this energy company called gb energy which will be publicly owned and invest in energy projectsg to growth. the promise they have put aside that is it would save people £300 a year. we asked pat mcfadden how to get to that statistic. it is not quite so simple. that is based on current prices compared to what we can get. you through generation two, nuclear energy. i it is an estimate of where you hope you can get to in six years' time. it does not seem you should be making a solid promise to people on the manifesto saying this is what will come off their monthly budget. this is a good way to illustrate - transitioning to renewable energy. if we do not do that, - we will be left at the mercy of international oil and gas prices. we are also at the mercy- of who controls those fossil fuels and we saw the kind of energy blackmail that vladimir putin i attempted to put on europe. now, it is not true to say it is an estimate based on current prices, it is an estimate based on prices from july and september last year when prices were more expensive. it is an estimate put together by a t

having this energy company called gb energy which will be publicly owned and invest in energy projects.contributing to growth. the promise they have put aside that is it would save people £300 a year. we asked pat mcfadden how to get to that statistic. it is not quite so simple. that is based on current prices compared to what we can get. you through generation two, nuclear energy. i it is an estimate of where you hope you can get to in six years' time. it does not seem you should be making a solid promise to people on the manifesto saying this is what will come off their monthly budget. this is a good way to illustrate - transitioning to renewable energy. if we do not do that, - we will be left at the mercy of international oil and gas prices. we are also at the mercy- of who controls those fossil fuels and we saw the kind of energy blackmail that vladimir putin i attempted to put on europe. now, it is not true to say it is an estimate based on current prices, it is an estimate based on prices from july and september last year when prices were more expensive. it is an estimate put tog

having this energy company called gb energy which will be publicly owned and invest in energy projects growth. the promise they have put aside that is it would save people £300 a year. we asked pat mcfadden how to get to that statistic. it is not quite so simple. that is based on current prices compared to what we can get. you through generation two, nuclear energy. i it is an estimate of where you hope you can get to in six years' time. it does not seem you should be making a solid promise to people on the manifesto saying this is what will come off their monthly budget. this is a good way to illustrate - transitioning to renewable energy. if we do not do that, - we will be left at the mercy of international oil and gas prices. we are also at the mercy- of who controls those fossil fuels and we saw the kind of energy blackmail that vladimir putin i attempted to put on europe. now, it is not true to say it is an estimate based on current prices, it is an estimate based on prices from july and september last year when prices were more expensive. it is an estimate put together by a think

plans for gb energy, a new investment vehicle for the government, for gb energy, a new investment vehiclehe vehicle for the government, the self—proclaimed nationalised energy water company , energy energy water company, energy company rather, which is actually just that investment vehicle and of course nhs plans too. but who better to ask about it than one of tony blair's former special advisers? yes, another one. john mcternan joins me now. john, thank you so much for making the time this evening. it's a big day for the labour party, but perhaps the biggest overall guiding watchword here has been caution and to some extent, a level of vagueness as , i really think vagueness as, i really think that's wrong. >> i think this is a radical manifesto with a substantive offer to lots and lots of groups , particularly young people, who are offered one thing by the tory party compulsory national service , and are offered a range service, and are offered a range of things by the labour party . of things by the labour party. >> okay, let's go to one of those things that is offered to young people

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we barely know what this entity gb energy is. know what this entity gb energy is. it's worth saying, as i've said to you before on gb news that half of all active oil and gas fields in the north sea are due to close by 2030, believe it or not. and hang on to your hat strap yourself in because the nonh strap yourself in because the north sea still provides 83% of the uk's oil and 54% of the natural gas that we use , and oil natural gas that we use, and oil and gas still account for. overall about three quarters of all the energy we use. when you increase include transport. so look, energy policy . it used to look, energy policy. it used to be the preserve of policy wonks, economists and nerds like me. after the war in ukraine, massive spike in energy prices, not for just households massive spike in energy prices, not forjust households but not for just households but companies as well. which is why even the usually very herbivorous confederation of british industry, always keen to get close to incoming governments, is complaining

a visit to the north west , he says gb energy, north west, he says gb energy, which will be based in, which will be based in scotland, will help protect the uk from spikes in fuel prices like those that followed russia's invasion of ukraine. the liberal democrats are pledging free personal care for adults in need, including the elderly and disabled . sir ed davey says he disabled. sir ed davey says he wants to pay carers an extra £2 an hour above the national living wage . and he says living wage. and he says investment in the care sector would ultimately benefit the nhs . the party leader, himself a carer for his disabled son, has described the issue as deeply personal. he will outline his party's belief that provision of care should be based on need , care should be based on need, rather than the ability to pay . rather than the ability to pay. a ferry carrying d—day veterans to france for the 80th anniversary commemorations has set sail from portsmouth. the mont—saint—michel is being accompanied by a royal navy patrol vessel , a trumpeter, patrol vessel, a trumpeter, medusa and ba

ing gp --■r gb energy, an energy company to keep our bills down. a training progr f need for the.think they can't be done because of the damage tha years. they can and they will. we will turn around a■ grohwealy and our public services. thank you, much. [applause] trent at -- news. >> kier starmer, you're ahead in the polls, should we prepare for a one-party,ies say -- [laughter] is that a good t you want to reduce net migration. what on earth does that mean? >> look, let's reject the cynicism of the torrey campaign. a general election is to suppress the vote. no single vote has been cast in this election. polls don't prohibit if the eve- predict the future and every single vote and we will earn it with our plan for growth, ourn future. the values our plan -- and, yes, i do want the mandate to to be able ton into action. i do want people to vote labour to giv uhat we need. i want people to vote for a labour candidate city so that labor -- can sit on the anifesto for them and their constituents. yes, i wan tt mandate. ms. --)!>2 [applause] changes tt w need -- change is what we nee

along with these plans to introduce gb energy, a new green energy investment vehicle.d to decarbonise the grid by 2030. now that's five years earlier than the tories have promised. it's been estimated by policy exchange that this could cost more than an extra £100 billion to do completely, but more than this , completely, but more than this, it isn't entirely clear how the grid could be decarbonised. of course, when the sun doesn't shine and the wind doesn't blow, the national grid uses gas as a backup, as an infill. how the labour party plans to tackle this very issue isn't entirely clear , but with me now in the clear, but with me now in the studio is the director of the climate media coalition, donika mccarthy. donica. thank you for joining me. i want to ask this specific question because there isn't a plan for baseload. there isn't a plan for baseload. there isn't a plan for baseload. there isn't a plan for backup short of installing a battery in everyone's home. how's the labour party going to do it? >> well, the i think the an effective policy has to be fast. it

ing gp -- gb energy, an energy company to keep our bills down.ings haven't been done in theasears. and i understand why people think they can't be done because of the damage that's over the last 14 years. they can and they will. we will turn around a create the wealth we need for our country and our public services. than you,■ [applause] trent at -- news. >> kier starmer, you're so far ahead in the polls, should we prepare for a one-p,e as the tos say -- [laughter] is that a goodj2 thing? and also a quickly, you want to reduce net mration. on earth do? is that below 100,000 a year? >> look, let's reject the cynicism of the torrey campaign. all they want to do in a general election is to suppress the i know that no single vote has been cast in this election. future, and every single -- predict the future and every single voteo> has to be earned. and we will earn it with our plan for growth,ealth in the future. the valuend, yes, i do want the mandate to to be able to put this plan into action. i do want people to vote labour the mandate that we nee

we've got ao national wealth fud tona invest in the future of the country, gb energy, an energy companykeep our bills down. an industrial strategy, a training program for the skills wero need for the future. all of these things haven't been done in the last 14 years. i understand why people think they can't be with done because it hasn't been down over the last14 years. they can and they will, we will turn around both in this country and create the wealth we need for our country and our public services. thank you, rocket, very much. [applause] robert. [inaudible] >> chris hope -- [inaudible] ceer sam ther, you're so far ahead in the polls, should we prepare for a one-party, socialist state as the tories say -- [laughter] and is that a good thing? and and also a quickly, you want to reduce net migration. what on earth does that mean? is that below 100,000 a year? >> look,. >> chris, let's reject the cynicism of the torrey campaign. all they want to do in a general election is to suppress the vote. i know that not a single vote has been cast in this election. polls don't predict the futur

a new industrial strategy, a new skills strategy and making sure that we set up enterprises like gb energypublicly owned energy company. you were very clear when you launched this that you hadn't got a magic wand to solve the country's problems, and you've stressed, as you just have, that growth is the key to everything. we'll talk some more, i promise you, about growth. let me tell you what i meant by small, though. you see, in this manifesto there is a promise on schools, for example, you say labour will recruit an extra 6,500 teachers. how many extra teachers per school is that over five years? well, i haven't broken it down per school, to be perfectly honest. 0ne extra teacher for every three schools over five years — that's a third of a teacher per school. two things i'll say about that. firstly, that is set out in the manifesto very clearly as a first step, a down payment, one of the steps that i hope we'll be taking literally on day one of government, starting down that recruitment. the second thing is a particular problem that we are aiming this at is the lack of teachers in specif

so i think people in the north—east can see through the empty promises about gb energy and they can seeh are that they will inflict significant damage on the economy of the north—east of scotland. and voting snp is the way to avoid that. the oil and gas industry has been critical of snp energy policy, though, because the snp isn't supportive of new oil and gas licences. the snp has made very clear that we want to work with the oil and gas sector as we manage the transition to net—zero, and there's absolutely no way i'm going to preside over a situation where there is industrial damage done to the north—east of scotland and to the economy of scotland by the way in which we go about that transition to net—zero. we've got to manage that transition carefully, we've got to make the shift to renewables, but we can do that in partnership with the oil and gas sector. and that's the approach that i'll take as we take forward our commitments to deliver on climate action. they conservatives seem to be the only party that are in support of new oil and gas licences, though. as you know, many people

the troblem something like gb energy? the problem is _ something like gb energy?july that bills will still be £300 higher than in 2021, which _ still be £300 higher than in 2021, which is _ still be £300 higher than in 2021, which is horrendous in a country which _ which is horrendous in a country which is — which is horrendous in a country which is producing green energy like here _ which is producing green energy like here that— which is producing green energy like here. that is why we need to send snp mps — here. that is why we need to send snp mps to westminster to put our interests — snp mps to westminster to put our interests first and to stand up for scotland — interests first and to stand up for scotland and to make sure we have a fairer— scotland and to make sure we have a fairer deal— scotland and to make sure we have a fairer deal for scottish households who can _ fairer deal for scottish households who can see the production of green energy— who can see the production of green energy and — who can see the production of green energy and yet pay far too

gb energy is gas that we use. gb energy is going to be a publicly owned investment vehicle.eplacing the private utilities. it's an investment vehicle though. no word on where the money for new investment infrastructure is going to come from now, you know, because we've discussed it in the past, martin, that half, half of all the active uk oil and gas fields in the north sea, there are around 300 of them are due to close by 2030. and the north sea, far from being irrelevant, it provides 83% of the oil that we use is 54% of the gas that we use. and guess what? oil and gas, if you include transport, still account for about three quarters of the energy used in this, the world's fifth biggest economy. every year. so why does that matter? it matters because labour are saying they're going to put a proper quote, proper windfall tax on north sea oil and gas. the tories have already put a windfall tax on north sea oil and gas projects, which means 75% of the profits of those projects , often involving those projects, often involving hundreds of millions of pounds of capital. pretty s

then he came out with the gb energy . of course he flew the gb energy.ivate jet. yeah, well i mean the whole the whole climate thing is a total scam . thing is a total scam. >> it's like it's as bad. sorry. it's as bad as, it's as bad as covid. it's an absolute lie. >> people would say that covid wasn't a scam. and in fact, three years later, yeah, people there were people who got covid mildly. some people are dying within a certain period of time . within a certain period of time. so they're looking at covid and seeing if there's actually a lot more to it, even for people who had a mild attack of it. so i think there's more to come out with covid, that is probably true. but it's the same. you know, it's the same thing with the flu. i would say it's one it's just called the flu. it was another flu. flu went down. flu totally disappeared. why am i discussing i don't know, where were we? >> we're talking about keir starmer. private jets. gb news. he flew there. it said it was a scam. >> it's a scam. it's a total lie abouti >> it's a scam. it's a total lie

in fact it's gb energy and ihave news.y good and hopefully if they can actually resolve the issue of water, water purity, things like that that matter to people rather than, you know, creating socialism in one country overnight. >> this is keir starmer's big speech this week. isn't it up in scotland. what do you i mean as a scottish person. what do you make of standing there with what anas sarwar. and the one of the brothers, the three of them were standing there and they were launching this big energy , drive launching this big energy, drive that the scots are saying will actually pull jobs away. and they're saying, oh, it's going to be 800 million. i think, investment in all of this. but ultimately it will be the tax payer that will be that will be paying payer that will be that will be paying for it. no one else labour don't have this money. the government coffers don't have the money. so it will be raised fiscally by the taxpayer. and i mean claire coutinho, the energy minister, said it's a really, really bad idea . we

talk jobs to scotland through gb energy. tatk us _ jobs to scotland through gb energy.ig polls coming in and you have to keep spirits — big polls coming in and you have to keep spirits up when these things happen — keep spirits up when these things happen. the polls were a bit less frequent — happen. the polls were a bit less frequent than what they are in this campaign — frequent than what they are in this campaign but there was a big one accurately— campaign but there was a big one accurately predicting where we would end up. _ accurately predicting where we would end up, with one mp, but we were 'ust end up, with one mp, but we were just getting on with things. you 'ust just getting on with things. you just have — just getting on with things. you just have to keep spirits up and push _ just have to keep spirits up and push on — just have to keep spirits up and push on when it wasn't going well. it wasn't _ push on when it wasn't going well. it wasn't the best result. you used to work for the snp, lee. the polls are suggesting the snp could face a difficult night on t

labour's wishy washy position on tax and mooted migrants amnesties, but now also their proposed gb energyrth was left a bit stumped this morning when asked how much lower household bills would actually be under labour's energy plans. >> we're struggling to make ends meet at the moment. under laboun meet at the moment. under labour, you will be better off and your energy bills will be cut well, how much will they be cut well, how much will they be cut by by the end of a first yearin cut by by the end of a first year in government under labour? well, this is obviously across a parliament and you've got to invest in the renewables by the end of the parliament. i'm not going to give you 10% lower, 20% lower. i'm not i'm not going to give you a figure just plucked from thin air. >> well, energy secretary claire coutinho also today warned that there could apparently be a £45 billion tax black hole in keir starmer's march towards net zero. meanwhile, grant shapps had this to say about potential labour voters this morning . labour voters this morning. >> she sets out precisely where we'll get the

you could add public ownership of rail, setting up publicly owned energy company gb energy.hted, enacting the socio economic duty in the equality act, which gives public bodies a duty to address inequalities arising from class occupation , arising from class occupation, place of residence, i think the reason they've been seen as courses is because they've been so conservative and tax and spend, and that's because they know labour has often lost elections because it hasn't been trusted on the economy. but behind that , there are radical behind that, there are radical proposals on, on, on britain's economic institutions, actually, precisely because they're being so cautious on tax and spend. if you want to change the economy, if you want to boost growth and reduce inequality, you're going to have to make changes elsewhere. >> of course, it's interesting. perhaps it's easy to be quote unquote conservative on tax and spend when tax and spend are at historic highs under the government that you're trying to, defeat in an election . but to, defeat in an election. but but i but i wo

we'll also be digging into some of those other key pledges, everything from votes at 16 to gb energynimum wage on young people. and nigel farage has given us some insight into what his vision of the future of conservative opposition looks like, admitting he would be willing to lead the tory party in the future. what does that say about the future of conservatism? plus are we to trust the labour party with our constitution? new reforms suggest parliament could be changed beyond all recognition. state of the nation starts now . state of the nation starts now. i'll also be joined by my panel, the journalist and conservative peer lord goodman, and the gb news senior political commentator

we'll also be digging into some of those other key pledges, everything from votes at 16 to gb energynimum wage on young people. and nigel farage has given us some insight into what his vision of the future of conservative opposition looks like, admitting he would be willing to lead the tory party in the future. what does that say about the future of conservatism? plus are we to trust the labour party with our constitution? new reforms suggest parliament could be changed beyond all recognition. state of the nation starts now . state of the nation starts now. i'll also be joined by my panel, the journalist and conservative peer lord goodman, and the gb news senior political commentator nigel nelson, plus a host of other experts and head honchos. all that's coming up after your very latest headlines with tatiana sanchez . with tatiana sanchez. >> tom, thank you very much. the top stories this hour. sir keir starmer set out labour's manifesto today, reaffirmed his commitment to no rises to income tax or national insurance. the labour leader put economic growth and stability at the core o

gb energy stands for giant bills.daunt and nigel farage said that net zero was a bad policy, a fool's paradise. are you not going to try and ladle this all up with with green policies and no one can afford if you win power? no. >> and it does make you wonder who is coming up with this stuff. for penny mordaunt, it was just absurd . but the more was just absurd. but the more serious point is this i'm the member of for parliament wigan. this is my home, my community. i know what a bad transition looks like. ed miliband, our shadow secretary of state for energy, is the mp for doncaster. he knows what a bad transition looks like. we are committing when we publish our manifesto, to creating more jobs in for nonh to creating more jobs in for north sea oil and gas workers than currently exist, but essentially jobs that are future proofed in clean energy so that they can power us through the next century, like their parents and grandparents, powered us through the last lisa nandy thank you to stay there. >> lisa nandy bev. th

we're going to set up gb energy, a publicly owned energy company, and that will actually drive down energyhort time, but for good, because i know that particularly in the last two years, so many people have been absolutely clobbered with a high energy bills, which they can't afford. and businesses as well, like this pub right on the small boats crisis. >> sheila trainer wants to ask you about this. do you want to stop the boats ? your manifesto stop the boats? your manifesto says stop the chaos, not stop the boats. will you guarantee the boats. will you guarantee the gb news viewers you will cut the gb news viewers you will cut the number of crossings by migrants across the channel in year one of your premiership? well, look , we want to get those well, look, we want to get those numbers down. >> nobody, but nobody should be making that journey, and the way to do that is to tackle the gangs that are running this vile trade. there are gangs making an absolute fortune, putting vulnerable people in boats, running this trade in breach of our borders. record numbers this yean our borders. recor

gb energy stands for , and g. gb energy stands for, and that's giant bills . now that's giant bills. now our clear plan is to achieve energy security through new gas powered stations , trebling our offshore stations, trebling our offshore wind capacity, and by having new fleets of small modular reactors. these will make the uk a net exporter of electricity, giving us greater energy independence and security from the aggressive actions of dictators. and let me just reiterate that with our plan, we will produce enough electricity to both meet our domestic needs and export to our neighbours. look at that . a clear look at that. a clear conservative plan, not only generating security but also prosperity for our country . prosperity for our country. and we conservatives also have a plan to give you financial security . we will enable working security. we will enable working people to keep more of the money that you earn, because you have earned it and have the right to choose what you spend it on. now, keir starmer takes a very different view. he says he's a social

things they are talking about, bringing down nhs waiting lists, having more police officers, having gb energy to use this to say that labour does not have new ideas and the conservatives are the ones presenting new ideas to the country thatis presenting new ideas to the country that is their message and they say presenting these shiny new policies will be something to bring the polls around a bit and show they have ideas. ., , around a bit and show they have ideas. . , ., ._ , around a bit and show they have ideas. . , ., , ., ~ around a bit and show they have ideas. ., , ., ~ ., ideas. 0k, as always, thank you for our ideas. 0k, as always, thank you for your insight — ideas. 0k, as always, thank you for your insight to _ ideas. 0k, as always, thank you for your insight to come _ ideas. 0k, as always, thank you for your insight to come a _ ideas. 0k, as always, thank you for your insight to come a bit _ ideas. 0k, as always, thank you for your insight to come a bit of - your insight to come a bit of analysis that. just to let you know that we have on our website a live page showing all the mo

, a public owned energy— establish gb energy, a public owned energy company headquartered in scotlandwell known. my views are well— known. i believe in a two—state solution solution, i believe _ in a two—state solution solution, i believe benjamin netanyahu is committing war crimes. i believe hanras— committing war crimes. i believe hamas should be separated from the palestinian people. i believe we need _ palestinian people. i believe we need an— palestinian people. i believe we need an immediate ceasefire and immediate access to humanitarian aid and we _ immediate access to humanitarian aid and we need a change of situation on the ground — and we need a change of situation on the ground. so people in israel and palestine: — the ground. so people in israel and palestine: we are running out of time. _ palestine: we are running out of time. the — palestine: we are running out of time, the man with a brown jacket. | time, the man with a brown jacket. completely time, the man with a brown jacket. i completely understand both sides of the independence _ completely understand both sides of

and i mean, labour are more guilty of it when they're talking about gb energy.ahead on net zero, if we can drive all those jobs and opportunity into this country, and gbbn is just part of it, we can get ahead and have all of that stuff happening here. we have to be investing in the new things in a big, big way. >> the question is, does the pubuc >> the question is, does the public need to invest in it? is it the taxpayers? so when i look at some of this now, the department for energy and net zero estimated that there will be £100 billion worth of private investment put towards the uk's energy transition by 2030. the national grid announced last week that it plans to invest £31 billion on the uk's transition . billion on the uk's transition. sse is investing 18 billion over the next five years. scottish power as well announced plans to invest £12 billion, so that's private. why do we need a small state owned company at the taxpayers expense? >> well, whether it's a small state owned company or a large one, actually, to be honest with you, and whether that is the

interesting now labour of course, have, you know , they course, have, you know, they brought out the gb energyntroduced that to scotland, that is, you know, due to be headquartered here in scotland, that if it goes ahead, it's worth saying , you know in it's worth saying, you know in john swinney used yesterday's opportunity in glasgow to say that, you know, to urge caution essentially against this scheme because it could lead to the loss of significant number of jobs up here in the north east. now, to me, that was a prime example of, you know, where he could have introduced the plan to protect jobs in the north east, protect jobs in the oil and gas sector, because labour, as we know now has plans to not allow any more oil and gas licences. and that, of course, would be a huge blow to this part of the country. >> okay . tony mcguire, good to >> okay. tony mcguire, good to see you this morning. thank you very much . very much. >> all right. thanks, tony, it's officially summer. is it? >> no, it doesn't look like it. if you step outside, i feel like it. i was reading something yesterday that app

gb energy, an energy company to keep our bills down, an industrial strategy, a training programme forse things haven't been done in the last 14 years. i do understand why people think they can't be done because of the damage that's been done over the last 14 years. they can and they will. we will turn around growth in this country and create the wealth we need for our country and our public services. thank you, robert, very much . chris you, robert, very much. chris gb news, chris gb news. >> keir starmer. news, chris gb news. >> keir starmer . you're so far >> keir starmer. you're so far aheadin >> keir starmer. you're so far ahead in the polls, should we prepare for a one party socialist state as the tories say? and is that a is that a good thing? and also, just quickly, you want to reduce net migration? what on earth does that mean? is that below 100,000 a year, look , chris, let's a year, look, chris, let's reject the cynicism of the tory campaign . all they want to do in campaign. all they want to do in a general election is to suppress the vote. i know that not a single vote has

so today, sir keir starmer was out and about in manchester, launching labour's gb energy plans, wheree promised to keep the lights on in britain without relying on moscow despot vladimir putin. >> the country we've got brilliant labour teams out in every constituency fighting for votes in this general election. we're in good form. we're making a positive argument about the choice before the country. i'm really pleased that the prime minister has called an election because we've been waiting for this. we've been working for this. we've been working for this for a very, very long time. it's our chance to get out, to take our argument to the country and to every single voter about the choice at this election between more of the same or turning the page and rebuilding the labour party. >> he looks particularly happy , >> he looks particularly happy, doesn't he? for some reason. meanwhile, the conservatives they announced a new annual cap on migrant visas in a bid to bnng on migrant visas in a bid to bring down those massive net migration figures. speaking in kent, home secretary james cle

airwaves because he's a loser, and the general public all know miliband is a loser, and that as for gb energy do anything. it's just a quango that's going to cost the taxpayer a huge amount of money. and again, it's labour coming up with fanciful stuff that is more bureaucracy , stuff that is more bureaucracy, more legislation and more cost for the taxpayer . i have to for the taxpayer. i have to challenge that. >> please forgive me, but it's just this is just nonsense. okay we import so much energy in this country when we could and should be creating it ourselves. we should be harnessing as an island so much more power that comes from the wind and the sun. do you want a wind turbine farm near where you live? i would, i'd welcome any form of renewable energy, which means i don't have to pay for it. absolutely. >> the labor party, we've got tax. >> all the energy companies to stop. >> i'm sorry to interrupt you guys. we have. we have to. first of all, we mentioned count binface. so we have to give you the candidates for richmond and northallerton. jason barnett, independent count binface, coun

every vote is to deliver gb energy, headquartered here in scotland, to bring down your bills and to createland's influence . so ian murray and the secretary of state's office for scotland will be there to the window to the world, creating more exports and giving more jobs at home. and i love that he's got his ange board up as well . and crucially , every well. and crucially, every single vote for scottish labour will help deliver angela rayner's new deal for working people. the most transformative change in workers rights in a generation and for workers across the country. there is no better guardian of their rights than angela rayner. she will deliver , yes, the end of deliver, yes, the end of exploitative zero hour contracts. yes, the end of the scandal of fire and rehire. yes. employment rights on day one. but she will deliver a pay rise for over 200,000 scots, including 140,000 women on low pay including 140,000 women on low pay and 40,000 young people. that's how you make work , pay that's how you make work, pay and lift families out of poverty . so friends, please give a very warm ha

and if you put that sort of money in, it will it will get gb energy. it will indeed.obs. and you're right, if we do stop allowing exploration of north sea oil and gas, that will of course, inevitably and very sadly, no one wants to see any job losses. you will see job losses in those areas. the hope and the expectation is that they will be replaced by more jobs in a green infrastructure . infrastructure. >> these jobs are going to be lost from the north. >> yes, in the in the post—industrial heartlands is what labour is saying. >> so 200,000 jobs we know will go matthew is they're saying they hopefully will replace them. >> well though they say they will. i'm hoping i'm hoping it doesn't do any good if you live in scotland, does it? >> and it's vague. yeah >> and it's vague. yeah >> and it's vague. >> and it's vague. >> vague. let's talk about vagueness too, because we had grant shapps doing the morning media round today. he was last week. he said when they introduced national service, the idea of for 18 year olds. my understanding was it was for 12 months for 30,018

we'll we'll set up gb energy to bring down energy bills, create good jobs across the economy. health workers, far too many people are unable to work because of mental ill health. we want to change that. we want to get people the help and support that they need so that they can get to work and live fulfilling lives. that's the difference that we will make, because growth has flatlined in this country under the conservatives. our manifestos are growth manifesto. we're going to grow the economy and people will feel better off than they will do after the last 14 years of conservative failure. >> okay. well, thank you very much indeed . ellie reeves, much indeed. ellie reeves, labour's deputy national campaign coordinator. thank you very much indeed for your time this afternoon. thank you. those little children playing behind the camera there a little bit off putting. >> no, it's nice, it's nice as well. >> you're much nicer than me. >> you're much nicer than me. >> victoria tower gardens is awash with picnicking, especially this time of year. >> i think there's going to need to be

changing the planning rules, setting up a national wealth fund, setting up gb energy, getting our waiting. this is a change election and we're going to turn our back on this sort of defeatism that nothing can get better in this country. i do not accept that on migration . migration. >> you very kindly answered a question in that press conference. i did ask you what? what's your figure? you want to reduce net migration to what you wouldn't give a figure? is it tens of thousands? >> i want it to come down substantially. i'm not going to put an arbitrary figure on it. that's been done in pretty well. every conservative manifesto for the last few elections. and the one thing that is common in those manifestos is the number has never been hit. so i'm not going to put an arbitrary figure. i'm going to say the numbers need to come down. they need to come down substantially. there way higher now than they've been ever before . so they've been ever before. so they've been ever before. so they need to come down. the way to bring them down is to make sure that the underlying drivers, such as the ski

domestically, we can get to the point because we will have a state backed energy company, which is gb energyomy of scale and we can we can invest in, in innovation so early . we can innovation so early. we can start expecting exporting these technologies right around the world as, as sir patrick vallance said, if we don't export it, we will end up importing it. let's be, let's be proud of britain. >> one could say that our oil and gas back, our innovators. >> let's start. >> let's start. >> but just to just to continue on oil, just stop oil their actions in the last two days have, as you can imagine, horrified , quite a lot of our horrified, quite a lot of our viewers and listeners on this channel, with the attack on stonehenge , with this latest stonehenge, with this latest activity at stansted airport, do you think it's time to ban this group ? group? >> mr farage? i think what they're doing is counterproductive. i think the attack, as you saw keir starmer's comments and those of us in the labour party, their their attack on stonehenge was reprehensible. it should never have happened. what

gb energy, an energy company to keep our bills down.b news. chris hope, gb news. you are _ chris at gb news. chris hope, gb news. you are so _ chris at gb news. chris hope, gb news. you are so far— chris at gb news. chris hope, gb news. you are so far ahead - chris at gb news. chris hope, gb news. you are so far ahead in - chris at gb news. chris hope, gb| news. you are so far ahead in the polls. _ news. you are so far ahead in the polls, should we prepare for a polls, should we prepare fora one-party— polls, should we prepare for a one—party socialist state, as the tories _ one—party socialist state, as the tories say? _ one—party socialist state, as the tories say? and is that a good thing? — tories say? and is that a good thing? and you want to reduce net migration — thing? and you want to reduce net migration. what on earth does that mean? _ migration. what on earth does that mean? is— migration. what on earth does that mean? is that below 100,000 a year? let's mean? is that below 100,000 a year? let's reject— mean? is that below 10