in terms of policy detail, gb energy is going to l detail, gb energy is going to be headquartered in was there enough policy detail in there? there wasn't a huge amount in this one. �* ., y wasn't a huge amount in this one. �* ., , ., , one. i'm not trying to be overly critical _ one. i'm not trying to be overly critical but - one. i'm not trying to be overly critical but the - overly critical but the headquarters of gb energy, how many people were that employ? where are we going to build the technology for a green energy revolution? that is more important in terms ofjob creation. there wasn't much in terms of policy but they have onlyjust been elected, making pledges in the election, so the question now is about the need to deliver on those pledges. the big thing for me is the need to offer hope to communities.- need to offer hope to communities. that is matt wri . ht, communities. that is matt wright. the _ communities. that is matt wright, the general - communities. that is matt i wright, the general secretary of the fire brigades union. he took to the stage at around two o'clock

setting up gb energy so that it can't be.his is not like the tories flogging off the post office and flogging off the post office and flogging off everything that wasn't nailed down. this is about actually having a great british energy company, and i don't matter where the money comes from as long as the control. >> stephen, stephen, stephen, you're an ex—labour mp. i've asked times many in the chamber, when can people expect their bills to be renewed, reduced? because we keep hearing from ed miliband that it's cheaper. renewables are cheaper. well, he put his £300 off bills. yeah. bills keep going up. >> well look, just just one thing. i mean, you've asked more questions in the last month and i think i've asked in the first five years. and so fair play to you for that. but the reality is that it's to do with the price cap and the regulator on power in this country. at the moment, we don't have control. once we have gb energy, we can actually control that. we can actually say we you have to reduce the rates, you have to reduc

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applause and another thing, another promise kept, we said gb energy, a publicly owned national companyhicle that will drive our mission on clean energy, we said it belonged in scotland. and it does. but the truth is, it could only really ever be based in one place in scotland, so today i can confirm that the future of british energy will be powered as it has been over decades by the talent and skills of the working people in the granite city with gb energy based in aberdeen. cheering and applause this is how the work of change happens. a decisive mission led government moving our country forward step—by—step. focused on the long—term plan. but first we stabilise the economy, second, we fixed the foundation, and third, we build with pride and determination a country that belongs to you. but it will be hard. that is not rhetoric, that is reality. it is notjust the not rhetoric, that is reality. it is not just the financial black hole, the £22 billion of unfunded spending commitments, concealed from our country by the tories. it is notjust the societal black hole, public services decimate

we're going to take a deep dive into gb energy . take a deep dive into gb energy.ally says. will it work? and in particular, what i want to focus on is this promise that more renewables will give us cheaper energy for the future. because got to tell you r i ,iam , i am very, very sceptical indeed it's an issue that's going to get bigger and bigger over the course of the next few years. it is, of course, about the cost of energy. it is about energy security. it's even at times a debate about whether the lights will stay on. and that's all because gb energy is being launched by the new labour government, and they've really gone back to the boris days of saying, let's become the saudi arabia of wind. well, i'm joined, i'm very pleased to be joined, i'm very pleased to be joined by energy analyst, founder and chairman of the uk energy security group and friend of this program , clive moffatt. of this program, clive moffatt. clive, first things first. there was you came in about 11 months ago when we chatted. there was an auction for commercial companies to bid to put w

. — renationalising the rail, like gb energy. scrapping— renationalising the rail, like gb energy, scrappingd _ energy, scrapping rwanda, orthose kind of things could wreck— energy, scrapping rwanda, orthose kind of things could wreck most - kind of things could wreck most clubs— kind of things could wreck most clubs for— kind of things could wreck most clubs for kids, _ kind of things could wreck most clubs for kids, fantastic, - kind of things could wreck most clubs for kids, fantastic, these i kind of things could wreck most i clubs for kids, fantastic, these are the good _ clubs for kids, fantastic, these are the good about _ clubs for kids, fantastic, these are the good about housings- clubs for kids, fantastic, these are the good about housings for- clubs for kids, fantastic, these are i the good about housings for veterans and victims _ the good about housings for veterans and victims of — the good about housings for veterans and victims of domestic— the good about housings for veterans and victims of domestic abuse - the good about housings for veterans and victims of domestic abuse

we have launched gb energy— country. we have launched gb energy to _ country.nomy. today, i stabilising the economy. today, i was _ stabilising the economy. today, i was able — stabilising the economy. today, i was able to add to that by saying _ i was able to add to that by saying we will enact the hillsborough law. we are breakin: the hillsborough law. we are breaking away _ the hillsborough law. we are breaking away from - the hillsborough law. we are breaking away from the - the hillsborough law. we are| breaking away from the prime minister because the health secretary wes streeting is giving conference and we can take a listen now. he arrived on the scene in southport to find children who had gone to dance to taylor swift and the adults whose sole purpose was to bring joy to their young lives. lying and bleeding and some tragically dying. the result of an unimaginable and senseless and mindless attack. i listened to dave described the split decisions he had to make of who to treat, in what order, to give them the best chance of survival. and i heard how t

our national wealth fund is up and running but gb energy has switched on. the unsure when banks scrap renters rights overhauled and local busesin renters rights overhauled and local buses in local, teachers pay up tackling child poverty back where it should be. a top priority all around us we see the consequences of tory failure. most record numbers of people who want to work locked out because of poor health. millions stuck in insecure jobs. mum struggling with childcare. disabled people denied equality. food bank use soaring and more than 4 million children growing up poor. this is result of a failed tory government but a failed ideology which says opportunity is only a few. i conference we say no more no more denying people the chances and choices they deserve. but instead real opportunities so families can build a betterfuture opportunities so families can build a better future children can fill the potential and so we can build a stronger economy and society to. the only way to get britain growing again is to get britain growing again is to get britain

ownership, we have set ”p public ownership, we have set up gb — public ownership, we have set up gb energystate and gb energy to drive in private investment —— to bring — in private investment —— to bring the _ in private investment —— to bring the railways back into public — bring the railways back into public ownership. look at how we dealt — public ownership. look at how we dealt with the violent disorder we saw in england and northern— disorder we saw in england and northern ireland over the summer. people dealt with speedily through the courts and into prison. talking of prisons. _ into prison. talking of prisons, we inherited the terrible _ prisons, we inherited the terrible situation first week of government and steps the lord — of government and steps the lord chancellor has taken to deal— lord chancellor has taken to deal with that in terms of overcrowding of prisons and as criminal— overcrowding of prisons and as criminaljustice system which criminal justice system which rishi — criminaljustice system which rishi sunak left on the point of collapse. rishi sunak left on the point

applause and another thing, another promise kept, we said gb energy, a publicly owned national company

he talked about gb energy, another central plank of the labour policy platform, setting up a gb energyhey say will increase the focus on renewables and claim will ultimately bring energy bills down. he pointed to things like planning reforms, which they hope will really encourage house—building, so he is trying to say, we have hit the ground running, and it was interesting, but all the talk interesting, but all the talk in the run—up to the conference about how they would be quite conscious when it came to town, particularly with the economy, i think sir keir starmer did allow himself a moment of celebration when addressing some of his activists and members last night, but this is a party that has won a significant victory at the general election, and he said to activists and members, you should be proud of the work you have done. sol should be proud of the work you have done. so i think there was more of a celebrate its own we heard from the prime minister in that first day of conference yesterday. we will see whether that continues when it gets to the conference floor and the speech

being under huge pressure, with huge waiting lists for those, and another final announcement he may, gb energyeadquarters in aberdeen. i don't think that game as much of a surprise to anybody because that had been talked about for some time to stop we knew that it would be in scotland but, confirmation that it would be in aberdeen. in terms of the town, i think you are trying to say to the public, i am you are trying to say to the public, iam being you are trying to say to the public, i am being upfront and honest with you about what is still to come but stick with me and things might get better overall. before his speech i spoke to the home secretary yvette cooper and asked what we might expect from this first beta from a labour prime minister and this is what she told me, a little earlier in the day. this is a hugely ambitious and radical mission not just for the government but the whole country. we think we should be halving knife crime over the next ten years and half violence against women and girls which is a national emergency and has not been treated as such. setting up practical plans

but when you see the amount of money being spent on gb energy being spent on pubuc on gb energy beingbeing spent on foreign aid, being spent on foreign aid, being spent on foreign aid, being spent on climate change, finance abroad , being spent on abroad, being spent on accommodation for illegal migrants and asylum seekers, all of these things. and then you go for the pensioners on this 1.5 billion, which may end up costing them anyway. if everyone signs up for pension credit, if they can. >> he's like an anti robin hood stealing from the pensioners and giving it to the train drivers who are already on quite a high salary and it's just not a good look when you've like we were talking earlier about the cancer treatments, you know his party were in favour of harder lockdowns, more covid restrictions. that of course had an impact on cancer treatments. so to then blame it on the previous government squarely, especially when you've got your own mps who are claiming, huge amounts of money for their own, bills and, and then trying to make the case that they need to take it away from those wh

allegedly black hole, when they have paid billions to unions without any savings in return, the gb energylimate energy of £11 billion, and then to say there is no money and we will do it off the back of pensioners, and i will not give wayjust back of pensioners, and i will not give way just yet, back of pensioners, and i will not give wayjust yet, but on the backs of the 1.1 million pensioners, they might be falling themselves but they are not fooling the british public. if they want to do the right thing, i would say, follow the example of the member for york central and if there are issues on this, we will look at this and we will do this in depth, but the fact of the matter is, they are using our pensioners as a political tool to make a point for their ideology. just because the chancellor found this allegedly black hole and is trying to justify it. it is a horrible situation. i will not give way. i will make some progress. there are many members on this side who are outraged by the fact that this is happening in the party opposite talked about transparency and yet there has been no im

we have launched gb energy to make sure we can get— launched gb energy to make sure we can get clean lising the economy. today, obviously, i was able to add to that by saying _ obviously, i was able to add to that by saying we'll enact the hillsborough law, for many of the injustices — hillsborough law, for many of the injustices. horizon, windrush, grenfeii— injustices. horizon, windrush, grenfell tower. and i was able to announce that we will make sure that veterans who are homeless, care leavers who are homeless, and those that have suffered domestic abuse or are homeless, will be given a roof over their head. so the first thing was really to set out the change that has already begun. we've been busy these three months, but also there was a broader message which was, you know, this is going to be tough. there are difficult decisions along the way, and i need to level with you about how difficult it will be. but there's a purpose. there is light at the end of the tunnel because the britain we are building will be a better britain, and we will make sure that living standards go up so

they've given eight to gb energy. _ they've given eight to gb energy, and have billion to climate _ energy found money— important things. they've found money for— important things. they've found money for what matters to them. pensioners — money for what matters to them. pensioners are not a priority to then _ pensioners are not a priority to them. this caused a lot of anxiety— to them. this caused a lot of anxiety and that's why a lot of charities— anxiety and that's why a lot of charities are up in arms about this— charities are up in arms about this and — charities are up in arms about this and i'm worried about the eating — this and i'm worried about the eating and have thousand pensioners in my constituency. thank— pensioners in my constituency. thank you _ pensioners in my constituency. thank you very much. the view from the conservative party but, as things stand, the government is sticking to this. it has got to the house of commons and it will go through the house of lords and this will go ahead. all ayes now, really, on whether there will be any kind of mitigation around the edge

renters reform housebuilding gb energy , housebuilding gb energy, national wealth fund, border security i could go on whilst they try to rewrite history . we're getting on with history. we're getting on with building a better country for the future. he martin. >> thank you, mr speaker. i'm sure the whole house will firstly join me in paying our respects to lieutenant rhodri leyshon, who tragically passed away last week. my thoughts are with the family loved ones. hms queen elizabeth crew during this very difficult time . mr speaker, very difficult time. mr speaker, housing in portsmouth is in dire straits, but local residents in portsmouth north have valid concerns around population density, infrastructure and the environment. so i'm glad that this government is working on delivering affordable housing in the city. can the prime minister ensure that the infrastructure is properly considered and that communities are involved in the planning process for any new developments ? developments? >> sir, can i start by saying i'm sure the whole house will want to join me in sending condolences t

how's that gb energy?s an up and running yet because it's going to obviously it's going to take time. the legislation hasn't even gone through. but anyway that's they are putting that. >> no they are taking that forward and setting up projects in its name already. >> it's got a headquarters in aberdeen. >> it's going to have a headquarter. yeah. no, i'm massively in favour of gb energy. i don't know where to start with all of this. i mean let's just take, let me this if it will make absolutely no difference to the climate. >> that's the issue. all right come on. >> because so you're you said, well, we can't just we need to look at the here and now. we shouldn't be looking at ten, 20 years forward. we should be prioritising the now part of the reason we're in a mess in so many ways, not just on net zero, but generally is because everybody, politicians are just thinking about what's happening tomorrow, what's what's the popular thing to do. and i'm afraid that we need to build resilience for the future. ther

getting energy bills down with clean energy, our with gb energy, our clean energy company gb hang ond people of loughborough are banging on about gb energy. >> they're banging on about their energy bills and how we're going to get their energy bills down and what we're talking about this week saying the winter fuel allowance. i did ask about that actually. and i said, look, are you struggling with your bills? and they said no. so i said, on the other side of it, because as you do or are struggling, we have pension credit for those just above the pension credit threshold, the household support fund and my office, by the way, if any of my constituents are at home at the moment and are struggling pensioners, please do get in touch. we will help with your application. >> isn't that a bit embarrassing for you as a leftie? as a labour right? this idea that labour come into power and then penalise seemingly some of the most vulnerable members of our society, we've got 10 million pensioners affected by this. i think maybe it was seen as a kind of thing that might affect wealthy boomers. and,

franchising, measures to do with tougher action on water bosses, the energy markets, so setting up gb energyy bills in the long term, but also in the short term they want to have a campaign to encourage pensioners, if they are eligible, many people who are eligible are not yet getting pension credit, and that would be a way to then access help with energy bills. so there's that sort of thing that they are talking about. what lucy powell was saying there is it is all about fixing the foundations of the economy. what the government will find when they come back is that the opposition parties, the conservatives and others, are going to start questioning them about their choices, saying are they making trade—offs here, that we have seen that already. giving pay rises to public sector workers, junior doctors and the like, at the expense of pensioners. that will be one trade—off being pointed out. one thing the government may find is that the opposition parties, particularly the conservatives. are a bit wrapped up with their internal arguments, leadership campaign is being launched this week. ther

but on gb energy, the green ambition to fuel the country . and yet it fuel the country.seems like he doesn't really care about old people in their houses this winter. and this is laboun houses this winter. and this is labour. you're meant to be the kind lot. >> well of course the government's going to implement the triple lock. the pensioners are one of the fastest gaining groups in society . that's just are one of the fastest gaining groups in society. that's just a fact. gb energy i think, is probably one of the smartest things this government's going to do. and i think those who remember the british national oil corporation will remember just how well labour did that in the past under a previous labour government. so i don't buy that argument at all. >> imagine being a pensioner this winter. can't you? and thinking, i'm not going to turn on the radiator, and knowing that all of that money is found for a green energy project, which is not going to benefit, designed to lower bills , amongst designed to lower bills, amongst other things. >> but as i say, we should go aft

veterans and victims of domestic abuse will get better access to social housing, and he confirmed that gb energy in aberdeen. but he also warned there would be difficult decisions i had. it will take time, he said, to clear out the tory rot. litical editor chris mason was watching in liverpool. >> conference, please welcome keir starmer, prime minister and leader of the labour party for . chris: little wonder the audience in here are whooping. they waited 15 years to hear that at their conference. prime min. starmer: take pride that labor won in every single region in england. take pride that labor won in wales. take pride that labor won in scotland. chris: governing is difficult for everybody, and that is before slip-ups an unforced errors. leaders like to celebrate what they have managed. prime min. starmer: doctors back in theater, new solar projects, new offshore wind projects, the offshore been lifted, great british energy launched. chris: next, the prime minister tried to describe how life feels for many people. prime min. starmer: look at our country. do you see a britain where people fee

crime, town centre crime, we have talked about the need to get— we have talked about the need to get gb energyamount under way. in three — a huge amount under way. in three months we have been taking — three months we have been taking action. this is about looking _ taking action. this is about looking forward to the future and the _ looking forward to the future and the opportunities we want to build — and the opportunities we want to build in our country together. this is significant for the labour party but not wall—to—wall celebrations, there has been talk about freebies, the pay of sue gray and senior staff, the winter fuel payments. it has been bumpier than you expected. is this a government that has got a grip? we have had three months in government. already we have taken — government. already we have taken a — government. already we have taken a series of decisions and make — taken a series of decisions and make sure _ taken a series of decisions and make sure we have got work under— make sure we have got work under way across the board. some — under way across the board. some decision

missions and it's clear that growth is a central mission and it's also clear that on climate with gb energyealth fund, that that is also a mission. the transition we are talking about, both for our country and as we partner with friends and colleagues in countries around the world, particularly in the global south, has got to be part of the story. we cannot have a situation in which the global north advance and leave the global south behind. so yes it is a tough environment and climate finances is going to be integral to that. but meeting the 11.6 billion remains our ambition as we undertake the spending review and we will consider all of those spending plans and it's important that i and others within government continue to make the case and make those difficult choices about what our priorities are in a tough fiscal environment. but i think it's important to remember that this agenda is fundamental to uk growth and therefore we should keep hope alive. second question is from professor myles allen. you ri . htl professor myles allen. you rightly emphasise - professor myles allen. you right

with labour britain has founded gb energy because climate matters.e will accelerate onshore wind, why? because climate matters! we will appoint new climate and new nature envoys, because climate matters. we have pledged to end new oil and gas licenses while guaranteeing a fair transition in the north sea, why? because climate matters! applause conference, the conservatives abandoned our leadership on international development, too. and with my dear friend anneliese dodds we will strengthen the leadership, capability and support faster reform to the global financial system. our goal is nothing less than a world free from poverty on a livable planet. that's what a labour government will achieve. conference, the world we face is filled with conflict... in europe and the middle east... but together, we have a once—in—a—lifetime opportunity to make change that we want to see. notjust in britain, but in europe and in the world. justus clem attlee is government built after the second world war. just as tony blair and gordon brown transformed our public serv

things like planning reforms and gb energy, onshore wind.s of new policy it has not been huge, to be frank, it has been more about tone, the message the party is trying to send out and i think trying to convince the country they have a plan and to get the country on board with it. ., ,, . ., , ., get the country on board with it. the home secretary had a tricky start — it. the home secretary had a tricky start to _ it. the home secretary had a tricky start to the _ it. the home secretary had a tricky start to the job - it. the home secretary had a tricky start to the job in - tricky start to the job in dealing with the unrest that followed the killings of the girls in southport and the widespread riots which would have been three weeks after she came into position. we canjust see yvette cooper applauding, waiting for her to get up. it has been a baptism of fire in terms of her assuming this role? ., terms of her assuming this role? . . , ., ., , role? that was a huge early challenge — role? that was a huge early challenge for _ role? that wa

and, confirmed that gb energy will be based in aberdeen.erpool. conference, please welcome| keir starmer, prime minister and leader of the labour party. little wonder the audience in here are whooping. they have waited 15 years to hear a sentence like that at their conference. a party so often crushed by defeat, basking in winning. take pride that labour won in every single region in england. take pride that labour won in wales. labour won in scotland. governing is always difficult for every party, and that's before slip—ups and unforced errors, and plenty that takes forever to do perhaps never gets done. so leaders like to celebrate what they have managed. doctors, back in theatre. new solar projects, new offshore wind projects, the onshore ban lifted. great british energy launched. one—word ofsted judgments ended. next, the prime minister tried to describe how life feels for many people. look at our country. do you see a britain where people feel, with the certainty that they deserve, that the future will be better for their children? bec

priorities, the railways, the fiscal lock which is designed to give more independent oversight to the, gb energy energy company but looking in the background is a perilous politics of the difficult fiscal picture that sir keir starmer and rachel reeves are facing. just before parliament broke up they announced they would means test the winter fuel allowance for the first time and over the summer labour mps have heard from anxious constituents about that and it means as they return to parliament today, there is genuine detectable unease about the consequences of that decision among the party. i5 consequences of that decision among the -a . , ., , consequences of that decision among the - . , ., , ., the party. is there potentially more ofthat the party. is there potentially more of that to come _ the party. is there potentially more of that to come and _ the party. is there potentially more of that to come and if _ the party. is there potentially more of that to come and if there - the party. is there potentially more of that to come and if there are - of that to come and if there are cuts ahead

and that's why gb energy, that's why fixing the fundamentals, that's why stabilising our economy andimportant . people's bills is so important. and we've got straight to work to deliver that. >> gb energy can work is a big scottish story isn't it? the headquarters will be in aberdeen. >> well, we haven't announced where the headquarters will be yet. >> so there is aberdeen. >> so there is aberdeen. >> it will be in scotland. it is yet. we will find out. you will find out imminently, chris, where the headquarters will be. you may have guessed it even more important than where the headquarters is , is the headquarters is, is the investments it makes. and will it bring what it does? >> that's the big promise. >> that's the big promise. >> and what it has to do is deliver clean energy. it has to deliver clean energy. it has to deliver the supply chains with the large scale jobs come from in the transition and of course, it's got to bring down energy consumption, but also bring down people's bills. so absolutely, that's at the heart of gb energy's mission. >> i'm fresh from the reform uk

them back into public ownership. 0n more oversight, independent oversight of budget decisions. 0n gb energyn 0fsted we have been talking about. but clouding over all of that are big decisions that everybody knows are coming down the track from this labour government on the budget, on tax, and on spend. we have already had one of those announcements, just before mps went away on the summer break, about the means testing of the winter fuel allowance and as you were saying, that has proved controversial over the summer with labour mps who are getting anxious messages from their constituents who are concerned about it. i would expect that only to intensify as those mps congregate and share information. plenty of them do concede that this government is going to have to make tough choices. the thing is, this doesn't even touch the sides of the black hole, as keir starmer and rachel reeves put it, that they have to deal with. so all of that still pointing towards the budget which is at the end of next month, lots more tough decisions to come. the conservatives still have their decision to make abo

the energy price cap will actually give a benefit already to people and gb energy raised. >> it's an look at the moment. why on earth are we paying moment. why on earth are we paying france and germany? electricite de france are our biggest electrical suppliers as far as i'm concerned. it should be british power for the british people. and that is what gb news not gb news. sorry gb energy is going to which is going to cost 8 billion to set up. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> well, okay. let's think about tomorrow and the future. but gb energy is one of the reasons for the black hole. >> the alleged black hole 8 billion. >> the future right now is you two have got to shush sam francis . we've got to go to the francis. we've got to go to the news. we're going to be talking in just a moment about angela rayner preparing to rip up margaret thatcher's right to buy policy. we might discuss that with these two as well. in the next half. but first of all, here's sam with your news. >> very good morning to you from the newsroom. 1033 exactly. and we'll start with news from france this morning that frenc

think they have made, you know, numerous statements and comments about ed miliband's plan to build gb energyof clean energy agenda. and they've also made comments for and against, depending on which way they stand on nuclear power. so i think trade unions definitely do view them as consumers as well as workers . but i think well as workers. but i think primarily it is this agenda will create jobs because people are going to have to build the houses. people are going to have to you know, set up the energy stations. people are going to have to man the you know, the cooling centres, whatever. so i think they see it as an industrial opportunity primarily. and then then they look at it as a consumer perspective. >> after scarlet, with you, one more go at the public opinion thing because it was evident that just at the end of the conservative government they were beginning to think that being against net zero was a political advantage. and labour obviously thinks bringing net zero forward to the earliest imaginable date is good politics. can they both be right ? politics. can they both be right? >

and but of course, so many of these things like setting up gb energy and like setting up gb energy andetting up gb energy and like setting up like sorting the planning reform so loads of lovely new homes can be built. it all takes time. and in the meantime, slack is not being cut for keir starmer very manifestly. you mentioned those rather dire polling figures, but his hope is he's remember, it's a brand new brand new government. we've got he's got five years for things to start appearing. and his strategy clearly is to make sure they started appearing and they're sufficiently visible for the punters to sort of cut him some slack and say, okay, he's making some progress. slack and say, okay, he's making some progress . that said, there some progress. that said, there is the problem of that. if you like the rishi sunak problem of the tin ear, and that i'm thinking specifically about how starmer did not manage to bring down the problem of stuff being given to him and, and his wife and so on, until the story had been running for several days . been running for several days. and there was

so gb news gb energy beg your pardon? chris hope of gb news yesterday teased this out of the conference. it was announced today that that will be based. the future of british energy will be based not only in scotland but the granite city of aberdeen. aberdeen, the home of gb news gb energy turbocharging home building, hillsborough law , home building, hillsborough law, homes for heroes and lots and lots of talk. as you'd imagine about the usual, lots of talk. as you'd imagine about the usual , the usual lines about the usual, the usual lines of 14 years of chaos, working people, the politics and the government of service. fixing the foundations , party first the foundations, party first country, second. populism is a politics of easy answers. i have a long term plan. let's cross live now to liverpool, where gb news has presented a tom harwood joins me from that labour party conference. tom welcome to the show . so, tom, fair, fair to say, show. so, tom, fair, fair to say, received a huge, huge round of applause at the end.

do not underestimate the funds for investment to come in gb energy we can make the transition to cleanding up the command. centralto our sending up the command. centralto your argument— sending up the command. centralto your argument is _ sending up the command. centralto your argument is the _ sending up the command. centralto your argument is the tough - sending up the command. centralto your argument is the tough stuff - sending up the command. centralto| your argument is the tough stuff now for the prospect of a brighter future. it is the timescale on the brighter future and people coming into whether or not it is worth it? homes for heroes, for example. heroes, veterans were on the street without a roof over their head, we are already moving to fix that along with those subject to domestic violence on issues like the economy and i'm not going to sit here and pretend to you that my christmas would've turned it around, it will take time but the most important thing in growing the economy is getting the investment that we need in almost all of our investors that we have spoken to her

deals, make the supply chain work more fairly and prevent sharp rises in the bills by switching to gb energy, mr speaker. many of _ place, thank you. thank you, mr speaker. many of my _ speaker. many of my constituents, including those at chapel gate, has told me about — at chapel gate, has told me about these so—called management agent who charge them _ management agent who charge them rip — management agent who charge them rip off service fees and then— them rip off service fees and then failed to provide even the most _ then failed to provide even the most basic of maintenance. many of them _ most basic of maintenance. many of them spent hours each week battling — of them spent hours each week battling with these agents, 'ust battling with these agents, just ensure that they and their neighbours are not fleeced in their— neighbours are not fleeced in their own _ neighbours are not fleeced in their own homes. will the prime minister— their own homes. will the prime minister recommit this government to act by the previous— government to act by the previous government failed to reform — prev

and that's gb energy, will be based in aberdeen.ow he's also been taking a battering for a sausage related slip up. >> the return of the sausages for now, please do send in your favourite sausage related puns to me. >> email farage @gbnews .com. a bag of chips for the best. now joining me now from the labour party conference is the former labour adviser matthew talbot. matthew, welcome to the show. always a delight to have your company. of course we like to make mischief about the slip ups, the sausage related battering not going amiss out here in tv land, but on the ground there. do you think the speech gave enough optimism? a lot of us were hoping there'd be light at the end of the tunnel, rather than this endless dour project doom from sir keir starmer. was there enough light at the end of the tunnel ? at the end of the tunnel? >> yeah, i think he's, you know , >> yeah, i think he's, you know, i heard earlier from a lot of delegates. keir is obviously not one of the best orators in the world. he's never going to give a tubthumpin

i mean, we got we were it was announced that gb energy is going to be based in this new energy companyte energy company, that state energy company is going to be based in aberdeen. it was announced that veterans and victims of domestic abuse and carers would be getting priority when it comes to housing. although i can see various problems, there as well. does that mean that other people are going to feel that they're further down the queue? i think the people here were expecting a lot more substance as to how labouris lot more substance as to how labour is going to tackle all these enormous problems that were left by your government , were left by your government, not just in terms of the economy and the health service , but and the health service, but housing, immigration, the universities. and there was very there was it was amazingly, in my view, lacking in substance when we were we were sort of led to believe there would be more substance. and so you're right, michael, there they are in danger of having to make a series of resets . series of resets. >> that's a very quick aside. af

talked about the need to build more homes, to tackle knife crime, town centre crime, the need to get gb energynd the opportunities we want to build in our country together. it is a significant conference for labour but it hasn't been wall—to—wall celebration with questions about freebies, sue gray, contention over the winter fuel payment. bumpierthan contention over the winter fuel payment. bumpier than you would have liked. you are a new government but is this a government that has got a grip? we have had three months of government in post. already in those three months we have taken a series of decisions and made sure we have got work under way across the board. some of those decisions end up being hard which reflects the 14 years of damage the conservatives have done to our country. things need to be repaired. all governments get affected by issues along the way. we have a core sense, these missions we are setting out for the future of the country about getting the economy growing more strongly, cutting waiting less and improving the nhs, safer streets for communities. in each of those erro

change that we've already gotten with delivering, whether that's starting the process of creating gb energye done around investing in skills and making sure we've got good opportunities for our young people , and how we ensure that people, and how we ensure that everyone has the option of a secure home. of course, i'd rather be talking about all of that, and that's what we'll be trying to do in the days to come. >> bridget phillipson, thank you very much indeed for your time this morning. enjoy. conference. good luck for your speech. coming up next, i'm going to be speaking to dean armstrong kc, who is leading the case against mohamed al fayed. and don't forget, i've also got robert jenrick coming out up. can he out farage. farage? i'll be back in two. i'm joined now by dean armstrong, who's a leading barrister in king's counsel, representing the alleged victims of mohamed al fayed. lovely to see you this morning, mr armstrong. thank you very much indeed for your time, because i know you've been extremely busy on this case. can you just lay bare for us the extent you think of al fayed's cri

of a gb energy ? but doesn't it of a gb energy?ell, exactly. and we've got actually similar institutions which can do the same things. but the thing that has changed for gb energy is any level of accountability. so it gives him special powers to direct that money. and there's no governance that's talked about in the bill whatsoever. so you're right. it is a blank cheque. he's not told us how much it's going to save consumers. he doesn't talk about £300 anymore. and in the same breath he says this is going to turn a profit for people. and just five years time, whilst he's telling businesses that he's telling businesses that he's going to use it to take the most unprofitable parts of their investments, the bits that they don't want. and what i would like to ask is why ed miliband, now the secretary of state, thinks that he can turn a profit on energy investments when multi—million pound energy companies who are very experienced in these matters think they can't. i mean, he's clearly not able to stack up the promises that he's deliver

we said gb energy , our publicly owned energy, our publicly owned national champion . clean energy. we said it belonged in scotland and it does. it belonged in scotland and it does . but the truth is it could does. but the truth is it could only really ever be based in one place in scotland. so today i can confirm that the future of british energy will be powered as it has been for decades, by the talent and skills of the working people in the granite city with gb energy, based in aberdeen . aberdeen. this is how the work of change happens. a decisive mission led government moving our country forward step by step, focused on a long term plan that first we stabilise our economy . second, stabilise our economy. second, we fix the foundation. and third, we build with pride and determination a britain that belongs to you . but it will be belongs to you. but it will be hard. that's not rhetoric , it's hard. that's not rhetoric, it's reality. it's not just that financial black hole. the £22 billion of unfunded spending commitments concealed from our country by the tories. it