there is a culture in the courts where sometimes among public defenders there's a sort of her gbagbo about like how much work can you do without complaining, so the culture of the courts can fuel that especially among judges who have an attitude of move the cases along, clear the docket and let's keep these going, keep the calendar clear. so there is that culture and then there is big financial problems and financial disincentives so there is often not enough public defenders so their caseloads get to hide. that's another huge problem. and then there is also a problem with the way that public defenders are paid in many states. for example out in wishing to an state one of the cases that i wrote about out there, they have these things called contract attorneys. and they are paid a flat fee contract. for every client that gets sent their way in a particular county. all of their fees for experts or investigators are any of that have to come out of their own flat fee contract so there is a disincentive sometimes to do good work. so there are allotted different pressure points in the syst