you also have to think the gbi came in. georgia changed the law. that law of citizens arrest no longer exists in this state. sara, people have been talking to you about that as well. >> reporter: they have been. one of the things that people forget, the jury did not know this but the public did. the jury was not allowed to use this in their deliberations, but there were two, not one, but two prosecuting attorneys who recused themself in this case before this ever even got into the hands -- the police on the scene of a man who was dead did no arresting at that scene, no detaining, for example, no bringing people in in a fast manner and no charges from the d.a. now, one of those d.a.s ended up getting -- going in front of a grand jury and there are charges now pending against her because of her actions in this particular case. so there are a lot of people saying the wheels of justice in this one fell off at one point. and you heard that there from the woman that martin was talking to, that this has been a long time coming. so for a lot of folks not j

we also need to thank the gbi, they georgia bureau of investigation's in particular, director vic reynolds. special agents lawrence kelly and inspector steve rogers. we need to thank the glenn county police department chief, ricky evans and captain jeremiah reckless -- berkless. we to think glenn cardi -- we need to thank glenn county -- and sergeant chris black. we also think operations managers for homeland security. -- thank operations manager for homeland security. ahmaud arbery's has signaled changes in this community and in the nation. with the passage of the hate crimes bill and the change of the antiquated civil arrest law. we think the family and the community at large -- thank the family and the community at large. we would like to have remarks from our team. our senior assistant district attorney and lead attorney linda. [applause] >> thank you. i want everyone to know this was a gigantic team effort. the trust in our team, i could not do it without my partners. there were all instrumental in making this happen. we had so many people on the team that helped bring justice. we rea

we also need to thank the gbi, they georgia bureau of investigation's in particular, -- georgia bureau of investigations, in particular, director vic reynolds. special agent richard d. special agent secrest. special agents lawrence kelly and inspector steve rogers. we also need to thank specifically the glenn county police department chief, ricky evans, and captain jeremiah berkless. we need to thank glenn county sheriff neil jump. ron adams. georgia state patrol. king and sergeant chris black. we also think the -- thank the operations manager for homeland security. we can make note of this, ahmaud arbery's has signaled changes in this community and in the nation. with the passing of georgia's first-ever hate crime bill and the changing of georgia's antiquated citizens arrest law. we want to thank this community for the support it's given to the family and to us, and the community at large. we want to have some opportunity to have some remarks, also, from our team. our senior assistant district attorney and lead attorney, linda dunikoski. [applause] >> thank you. thank you very much. t

right now watching the screen, one of the gbi investigators is up there talking.ody, to look at this case. it took 74 days to get these men charged. that part is moving forward. one of the officers investigating in the neighborhood as well was on the stand but today, honestly a lot of the talk has been about the words that happened outside of when the jury was in the courtroom. one of the things that did come out today is the fact that there were some other sort of robberies that went on in that neighborhood, and they actually involved someone who wasn't black. that's a part of the conversation ongoing as well. a lot of twists and turns here and statements being made outside of court. ana? >> wow. ryan young, thank you. i'm joined now by reverend jamal bryant, senior pastor at new birth missionary baptist church working with other black pastors to support the arbery family. thank you so much for being with us, reverend. what was your initial reaction when you heard those comments by that defense attorney kevin gough? >> i was completely dumbfounded and felt as if

how many times had the gbi taken cheap shots at mr. bryan. and in the end, you may wish to ask yourself why. now, in the defense case, and we didn't do it. we promised we wouldn't, but it's clear that mr. bryan did not wish to strike mr. arbery, that he never had any intention of hurting mr. arbery, he never said anything to the contrary. the evidence will show he had no knowledge, no reason to believe that anyone else out there meant to hurt or shoot mr. arbery. if they had a secret intention or desire to do that, it could not be known to him. now, there is another excerpt that i want to play from the minshew video, only one. okay. because, again, i think it shows you mr. bryan's demeanor. it has been suggested by the state that much of what mr. bryan says later is somehow an after the fact rationalization of what happened that day. but when you listen to this, i think you'll see that mr. bryan's -- the truth of what mr. bryan is trying to convey hasn't really changed. obviously there's a reason we all don't play more of these. >> you know,

and put circles on and things on it that are representative of the testimony of officer rash and the gbi and going door to door and neighbors who have been complaining about things. i'm not going to say the neighbor at this address called 911 on this date or that date. it's argument. it's demonstrated of my argument. i don't see any basis for the state to object. and i don't have anything else that's a photograph. >> i understand the issue. we'll see where it goes. >> thank you, judge. >> okay. if the state wants to object, that's fine. we'll doo with it as it comes, i don't think. i don't think it's objectionable. >> juror 219, ticktock videos. >> let's take care of that. >> it's available. >> okay. okay. let's go get the panel . >> is it on? >> we will all be frozen by the time we get to about 3:00 this afternoon, but i guess we'll wait and see. [ inaudible ] let's see if you get what you wish for. all right. >> all right. right now we are clearly waiting for the jury to make it back into the courtroom for the defense to begin closing arguments after we had about an hour of closing arg

richard dial is the lead investigateor for the gbi. this whole case changed when the gbi changed.andled things it didn't go well. listen to his account. >> did the glynn county search mr. bryan's vehicle? >> they did not. >> they they pat mr. bryan down? >> no, ma'am they did not. >> and mr. bryan was allowed to go home before he ever went to glynn county p.d. to give a statement? >> that's correct, yes ma'am. >> took his truck home with him, yes, ma'am. >> getting back to that sensitive issue of black pastors in the courtroom, jesse jackson said he'll be here all week. kevin gough who made that complaint now put in a formal motion that is to the judge. he's asking that everybody who goes into the public area of the courtroom be monitored and be noted. the judge has said he does not favor that but he hasn't officially ruled on this motion. so we'll have to wait and see. meanwhile, 250 pastors are expected to show up here on thursday to support the family of ahmaud arbery. victor and alisyn. >> martin savidge, thank you. >>> the reverend jesse jackson joins me now. thank you for yo

within 36 hours, gbi agents were at the mcmichaels' house, putting handcuffs on greg and travis mcmichaelt have now been arrested and charged with murder. >> my older son, marcus, called, and he said, mama, they got them. they got the mcmichaels. >> 74 days after he was shot and killed, the mcmichaels are arrested. what did that feel like for you after working so hard? >> it's unbelievable. i knew that god heard my prayers. >> the murderers of ahmaud arbery was arrested. [ cheers and applause ] we will not rest until they are convicted and behind bars. >> the georgia attorney general replaced the third d.a. at his own request. >> a new prosecutor has been assigned to the case of ahmaud arbery. >> it was early may. i was appointed as the special prosecutor in the case of ahmaud arbery's murder, being the fourth prosecutor to be involved. and that family is reeling, and you feel the emotion of what you are tasked with doing. >> no justice! >> no peace. >> hands up. >> don't shoot! >> black lives matter! >> you're now dealing with the whole world watching. le. >> after the video was released

. >> you told the gbi that you suspected he saw you. i did. >> because you felt like you put into motion these events that turned tragic. >> i thought maybe if he had not seen me he would not have run away. dan: gregory mcmichael, hsi son travis and their neighbor are accused of chasing and killing arbery. defense attorneys say their clients were trying to detain arbery because they believed he was a burger -- burglar. ama: we have some fine fall weather into seven-day forecast. see how long it lasts. also ahead. >> all right. dan: the cma awards are not just about recognizing today's top performers. it is also about giving a chance to the next generation. ama: and friday is disney+ day, a celebration of the disney+ global community, and we are giving away 10 free annual sub script and sue customers. just go to abc7news.com to to be a thriver with metastatic breast cancer means asking for what we want. and need. and we need more time. so, we want kisqali. women are living longer than ever before with kisqali when taken with an aromatase

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the family and they went for months not knowing if this would move forward then all of a sudden, the gbi comes in and this prosecution moves forward, you can understand why family members were happy and satisfied about yesterday's verdict. >> this is the second thanksgiving my family and i will share without him, but this is the first thanksgiving that we can look at that empty chair and say we finally got justice for you. it's like a bittersweet moment. he's not here, but i know he's in heaven. very, very thankful we got justice for him. >> alex, you have to think about her emotions and the fact she kept her composure so long. being there for the whole step of the time. a lot of people looking forward to what the federal government does. it will be interesting to see what the sentencing is handed down by the judge in the coming weeks. >> thanks for being there on this holiday. happy thanksgiving to you. joining me now are two former federal prosecutors. thank you so much. happy thanksgiving to you. >> happy thanksgiving. >> jennifer, prosecutors have said they're going to seek life in p

they arrived on scene all the way until gbi got involved. >> counselor, thank you. wanda, thank you for being with us. what a difficult week this has been. >> yes, thank you. >> we're watching this all day as we are watching the kyle rittenhouse trial. cnn's coverage continues right now. >>> very good thursday morning to you. i'm jim sciutto. >> i'm erica hill. the federal judge who ruled against president trump's assertion of executive privilege doubling down on his denial of the request for a stay. the latest decision means unless the former president can get an appeals court to intervene, the national archives will begin turning over those disputed records tomorrow. >> and they're key to that investigation. this comes as the house select committee investigating january 6 is ramping up its efforts to gather more information and testimony after subpoenaing more than a dozen members of trump's inner circle this week alone. the committee is now setting its sights on those closest to the former vice president mike pence, including his former chief of staff and nationa

how many times had the gbi taken cheap shots at mr. bryan? in the end, you may wish to ask yourself why. now, in the defense case, and we didn't do it, we promised we wouldn't, but it's clear that mr. bryan did not wish to strike mr. arbery, that he never had any intention of hurting mr. arbery. he never said anything to the contrary. the evidence will show that he had no knowledge, no reasonable belief, that anyone out there meant to hurt or shoot mr. arbery. if they had a secret intention or desire to do that, it could not be known to him. now, there is another excerpt that i want to play from the minchu video. only one, okay? because, again, i think it shows you mr. bryan's demeanor. it has been suggested by the state that much of what mr. bryan says later is somehow an after-the-fact rationalization of what happened that day. but when you listen to this, i think you'll see that mr. bryan -- the truth of what mr. brian was trying to convey hasn't really changed. >>> obviously there is a reason we all don't play more of these. >> you know,

there is i gbi investigator who is on the the stand who is talking about their initial investigation. but let's not also forget yesterday was a very long day. and in terms of what happened in court where larry english was basically a video deposition that lasted more than three hours, a lot in the jury were tired. so at this poichnt, it is lucky that we have live guests because they're now more engaged than what they were yesterday. but the comments were made outside of the jury's presence. and the ripple effect has been felt in the community. people in the clergy will double down their efforts next week and this could get more interesting. >> ryan young, thank you for that. >>> so last night ahmaud arbery mother talked and here is what she had to say. >> i'm surprised to know that he frowned upon anybody, any pastor would come in to sit with the family, to keep us encouraged was -- it was just very insensitive that he would frown upon that. i'm very surprising but also very, very rude. >> let's discuss all of this and the vedevelopments with barbara arnline and has been with the cour

and then he put his faith in the gbi. he put his trust in law enforcement. he put his trust in our government to do the right thing by him. his trust was not rewarded. and now he finds himself before you. we place roddie bryan's fate in your hands. we ask you to return a verdict of not guilty on all counts. i ask you to send roddie bryan home. thank you. >> thank you, counsel. we're going to take a 15-minute recess. i need to work through some scheduling issues and figure out where we are. and we will bring you back out for continuation of the case or other announcements in about 15 minutes. thank you. >> welcome to "the lead." i'm pamela brown in for jake tapper. breaking news in the national lead. we've been watching closing arguments in the trial in the killing of ahmaud arbery. a racially charged case from the very beginning. prosecutors say three white men targeted arbery who was jogging because he was black. the defense attorneys argue the shooting was an act of self-defense as the men tried to make a citizens arrest. soon 11 white jurors and one black

that was clear from the moment they arrived on scene all the way until gbi got involved. >> counselor what a difficult week this has been. >> yes, thank you. >> we're watching this all day as we are watching the kyle rittenhouse trial. cnn's coverage continues right now. >>> very good thursday morning to you. i'm jim sciutto. >> i'm erica hill. the federal judge who ruled against president trump's assertion of executive privilege doubling down on his denial of the request for a stay. the latest decision means unless the former president can get an appeals court to intervene, the national archives will begin turning over those disputed records tomorrow. >> and they're key to that investigation. this comes as the house select committee investigating january 6 is ramping up its efforts to gather more information an

if the witnesses they have could provide that to the gbi and fbi, that is where it is. they have the data analytics to handle that. it is at their level. we will wait and see what they do with it. with sp2 hundred two, it has been updated. we have moved to photo i.d.. we have made sure every county does have drop boxes. they will be inside the buildings moving forward. we do have covid but not the severity in 2020. host: what did you make of the effort in arizona and is there a move in georgia to do a similar thing? guest: if you look at what we have done in georgia, we have done a 100% hand recount. all 5 million ballots. those verified the original results. we scanned them through a final time and that result was similar to the other two counts. we took a statistical significant sample size of the machines used to verify they had not had anything done to them and that the counts were accurate. we also did a signature met study in cobb county. the university of georgia is doing a statewide audit study. in arizona, they said president biden got more votes. that was pres

gbi telling people if they see them, not to approach them and call 911 right away.n is reportedly expected to name former new orleans mayor to oversee the implementation of his bipartisan infrastructure plan. this according to the "wall street journal." he led new orleans from 2018 -- i'm sorry 2010 to 2018. biden is set to sign the 1.2 trillion dollars package into law tomorrow. for more on these and other stories, you can download the fox news app, scan the qr code on your screen, or go to fox news.com/apps. >>> singer chris daughtry is postponing a number of concerts after his step daughter hannah passed away. the rock star and "american idol" alum described himself as devastated and heartbroken in his social media announcement on saturday. his step daughter was found dead inside her tennessee home. she was only 25 years old. the investigation into the cause of her death still underway. christina coleman has details from los angeles. christina? >> hi, jon. yes, rock musician chris daughtry sharing with his fans that he's extremely grief-stricken by the sudden los

. >> reporter: yeah, when you think about all of this when that video was finally shown and the gbi steppedt the investigation, there were a lot of parts to this. but it was actually one of the lawyers trying to show the video to prove it was self-defense, and that really backfired and started -- had a lot of people asking questions. there were two prosecutors who were really removed from this case, and another prosecutor was brought in. so when you think about all the steps in this case to get us to where we are, it's quite amazing especially with the fact the state of georgia has changed two laws. you have the new law in terms of now citizens arrest, and you also have a hate crime law. so you can see the hands of justice in motion in this state. of course there's federal charges, and there could be more sentencing for these two men or three men in the coming weeks. so this is still not over yet. still a lot of questions about how this moves forward. but when you think about wanda cooper jones and that fight of a mother who kept fighting for her son even when all the chips were stacked aga

we also need to thank the gbi, the georgia bureau of investigation, in particular director vic reynolds. special agent richard dial, who i believe is here with us. special agent jason seacrest. special agent lawrence kelly. and inspector eve rogers. we also knead to thank specifically the glenn county police department, deputy chief ricky evans and captain jeremiah berquist. glenn county sheriff neal jump. glenn county clerk of court ron adams. georgia state patrol, major thoronow king. operational managers for homeland security, todd keys. what we can make note of is that ahmaud's death has signaled significant changes in this community, in our state and in this nation. with the passing of georgia's first ever hate crime bill and the changing of georgia's antiquated citizens arrest law. we want to thank this community for the support that it has given to the family and to us. and the community at large. and we want to have some opportunity to have some remarks also from our team. so our senior assistant district attorney and lead attorney, linda donakowsky. [ cheers and applause ] >> t

gbi agent, i can't compel anyone to speak to me. they knew better, just like agent seacrest knows. i can't compel anyone to talk to me. all right, let's go ahead and talk about defendant bryan. 307 burford. you've seen the video, i'm not playing it for you again. it's motion activated on the truck. travis mcmichael's white f-15 pickup truck comes in front. driveway decision. this is important, ladies and gentlemen. this is really important. y'all got him?! why is this important? what does this say? mr. bryan, from his porch, can tell that they are chasing and trying to falsely imprison, stop, define -- confine, mr. arbery. he can tell it from his porch. he knows exactly what they're doing. "y'all got him?!" he knows what they're doing. and you know what he chooses to do? his independent, independent own decision, i'm going to go join them to try to stop this guy, confine and detain him. h just joins in. his driveway decision. that is what being a party to the crime is. you go to help some people who are committing some crimes. trying to stop this guy and detain him and confine him.

but it wasn't until gbi got involved, the george bureau of investigation, that we saw that prosecutors, and this team was assembled to try this case. so it's very unfortunate that it had to happen this way. i praise mr. arbery for his tenacity and for leaving no stones unturned. i praise ahmaud arbery's mother for not giving up, that family and the faith community for being with them, supporting them, and the two lawyers who stood out to represent the family, my national bar association members, ben croft, like me a past president of the bar association, and lee merritt, one of our outstanding, stellar members of the national bar association, there with the family seeking justice. i think all of those things together happened. >> thank god that video was leaked, otherwise this trial would not have happened, these men would not have been found guilty of the guilty of ahmaud arbery, and boy, were they found guilty. kristen, i'm just remembering that moment a couple of days ago with the defense attorney for greg mcmichael, laura hough, getting up there and trying to play on race with the

he made statements at the scene, goes and makes additional statements to the gbi in may of 2020. he consented to have his night owl video downloaded. guess what. doesn't matter? cooperation after the fact does not erase what you have done. okay? that would be like two teenagers shoplifting at walmart and one's filming the other. both of them are stuffing bikinis into their bag. the fact that one of them hands over her video of her girlfriend doing it, does that somehow make her not guilty of stuffing a bikini in her own bag? no, you still did the crime. so what if you were cooperative afterwards. you are still responsible for your actions. this is about responsibility. all right. we are going to transition right now and take a breath and we're going to transition self-defense and citizen's arrest. the person is justified in threatening or using force against another person when to the extent that he reasonably believes that such force is necessary to defend himself or a third person against the others' imminent use of unlawful force. wow. that's a mouthful, right? yikes. let's br

from learning that the gbi went around to alerting that officer rash went around to what was being posted on facebook to hearing from witnesses on the stand to hearing him talk about driving through the neighborhood. witnesses talking about police cars going through the neighborhood at night shining flash lites. this neighborhood was being covered in suspicious persons, in extra watches and neighborhood patrols and concerned citizens. it was everywhere. it was on facebook. and the count created some neighborhoods to help each other. and the types of things that these neighbors would talk about to each other was about the crime that was being committed to them. to their neighbors. a crime they had seen happening across the street from them. a crime that some was reported but not all. you heard a lot of people talk about, i didn't call the police because what's the point. crime is over and the people are gone. but they told you what was happening in their neighborhood concerned them. caused them concern and unsettling. to imagine people lurking and sneaking around your property at night so

it took a gbi investigation to get to the point where the charges are now. have this community on edge all day, walking around and talking to business leaders here, they were concerned about how this community was going to be bruised by the information that we've seen over and over again. but then you think about it. something that laura coates brought up here is the ending, the prosecution ended up zeroing in on that video. just a few hours ago when you popped up live, those jurors wanted to see that video again. i can tell you, when you watch the video with nothing else but the video, it kind of shakes you and they wanted to watch it three times in a row. >> i want to go to elie honig now. as i look at this form that you helped make in order to keep track of all of the verdicts, because there were 27 different verdicts, a reminder it is interesting. travis mcmichael, he was the one who shot and killed ahmaud arbery. he was found guilty on all nine counts. his father, greg mcmichael was found guilty on eight counts, but not malice murder but the felony murd

he then goes and makes additional statements to the gbi in may of 2020. he consented to having the video downloaded. guess what? doesn't matter. cooperation after the fact does not erase what you have done. okay? that would be like two teenagers shoplifting at walmart and one is telling the other, both stuffing bikinis into the bag. the fact one-hands over video of her girlfriend doing it, does that make her not guilty of stuffing a bikini in her own bag? no. you still did the crime. still are responsible for your actions. this is about responsibility. all right. we are going to transition right now, take a breath, and we're going to transition into self-defense and citizens arrest. how's my time? a person is justified in threatening or using force another against person when and to the extent that he reasonably believes that such force is necessary to defend himself or a third person against the other's imminent use of unlawful force. wow. that's a mouthful, right? let's break it down. travis mcmichael had to reasonably believe that it feels absolutely n

gbi agent. i can't compel anyone to speak to me. they knew better, just like agent seacrest knows. i can't compel anybody to talk to me. all right. let's go ahead and talk about defendant bryan. 307 burford. you see the video. i'm not playing for you again. it's motion activated on the coach. travis mcmichael's white ford f-150 pickup truck comes in front. driveway decision. this is important, ladies and gentlemen. this is really important. y'all got it? why is this important? what does this say? mr. bryan, from his porch, can tell that they are chasing and trying to falsely imprison, stop, confine mr. arbery. he can tell it from his porch. he knows exactly what they're doing. y'all got him? he knows what they're doing, and you know what he chooses to do? his independent, independent, own decision, i'm going to go join them to try and stop this guy, confine and detain him. he just joins in and starts helping. his driveway decision. that is what being a party to the crime is. you go to help some people who are committing some crimes, trying to stop this guy and detain him and contif

there was not anything there and we called them the gbi and the fbi, there were not anything there.ected office really should be mindful of. if someone says ron raffensperger was my brother and he works for the chinese. that's the type of things we are facing, just wild accusations never supported by the facts. sam stein has the next question. jump in. >> thank you, secretary raffensperger. this past week on the federal evolve, representative adam kinzinger announced he's not going to reseek elections, he's one of the happened full republicans who would agree of your assessment of the election, publicly but not privately. i am wondering if you can take an assessment of the republican party and whether you feel like people will say there is in fact no fraud and what do you think that pertains to the future of the republican party, your own state. candidates are running across the board for statewide and local office, likely they'll win. where does republican state party go from here? >> well, i think all of us need to realize that we have a great country with great people. so we have

if the witnesses they have could provide that to the gbi and fbi, that is where it is.hey have the data analytics to handle that. it is at their level. we will wait and see what they do with it. with sp2 hundred two, it has been updated. we have moved to photo i.d.. we have made sure every county does have drop boxes. they will be inside the buildings moving forward. we do have covid but not the severity in 2020. host: what did you make of the effort in arizona and is there a move in georgia to do a similar thing? guest: if you look at what we have done in georgia, we have done a 100% hand recount. all 5 million ballots. those verified the original results. we scanned them through a final time and that result was similar to the other two counts. we took a statistical significant sample size of the machines used to verify they had not had anything done to them and that the counts were accurate. we also did a signature met study in cobb county. the university of georgia is doing a statewide audit study. in arizona, they said president biden got more votes. that was presid

if the witnesses they have could provide that to the gbi and fbi, that is where it is.have the data analytics to handle that. it is at their level. we will wait and see what they do with it. with sp2 hundred two, it has been updated. we have moved to photo i.d.. we have made sure every county does have drop boxes. they will be inside the buildings moving forward. we do have covid but not the severity in 2020. host: what did you make of the effort in arizona and is there a move in georgia to do a similar thing? guest: if you look at what we have done in georgia, we have done a 100% hand recount. all 5 million ballots. those verified the original results. we scanned them through a final time and that result was similar to the other two counts. we took a statistical significant sample size of the machines used to verify they had not had anything done to them and that the counts were accurate. we also did a signature met study in cobb county. the university of georgia is doing a statewide audit study. in arizona, they said president biden got more votes. that was president