gdansk must not be in the house tonight. so, but it's interesting -- and i guess being -- there's a sense to me -- seems to me, i should say. e' punk fans want authenticity from their punk bands. and punk bands must want the authenticity of rooms that feel punk. and it seems like your career has like so many of those. >> well, it teaches you. you have to transcend the room. >> seth: right. >> it's about a connection with the audience. and some of those shows where there's the gnarliest venues, those are the best shows because kids go off. and that's what you want. >> seth: and did you -- did you find that after you came out, did your fan base change at all? >> for sure. i mean, like, coming out was a real, like, line in the sand. where after that anyone who is at an agains me! show, it was safe to assume, was on the same page as me. and was accepting of that. so it really lended itself to creating a safe space. and i mean it was like, you could tell it like after the show where you'd see like venue staff in a good mood. wher