or have decided to remain on the council. dow chemicals, general motors, ge, campbell soup, boeing, cleveland clinic, gm morgan, walmart, blackstones market, new core, lockheed market, 3m and damon. you are saying all those companies have ceos making the wrong call >> yes just as there were large numbers of companies that practiced anti-semitism in the 1930s and the 1940s. just as all of those companies would have been resistant to employees decades ago. just as many of those companies would not have entertained an african-american or a woman in a senior management position several decades ago. and we look back on that and we don't understand how that could have been. historians of those companies will look back, the companies will look back and they will praise the ken fraziers, they will praise the intels and they will see that there was a large group that missed the moment absolutely >> we brought you on to talk about the op-ed, mr. secretary, real quick, dudley said cohn would be a reasonable candidate for fed chief. putting your comments just now aside, do you agree with that assessment >> i'm not going to get into personalit