gede: it's really logical, right? what is important for us is prevention. matt: robiin bali, there is some traditional rules to make a balance between economic prosperity and natural preservation. but we're long way lost. more money, more money, is betraying this concept. matt: will bali return to the way it was after this pandemic ends? gede: this is the big lesson for us to shifting our priority. economy and ecology is not two separate things. we understand that we live from the nature. we cannot damage the nature. specifically in bali, the concept is nature and culture tourism. that's our asset. that's what we sell. we cannot shit where we eat. right? ♪♪♪ matt: a year on from the start of covid, bali is preparing to reopen to visitors. tourism will return to the island of the gods and bring with it much needed money. matt: what type of tourism do you want? cok: we want to-- everybody, peace in bali. [speaking foreign language] our nature in bali. pak: this is the time for bali to do. balinese people look at themself, yeah? so, like, we will learn. i think the gover