the reporting and the depth of it is superb, but my point was geffen the fact that -- given the fact that our responsibility now at npr has really shifted over these years in ways that i never could have predicted, nor bill who was the man really who created all things considered or we founders could have imagined. we certainly wanted to be authoritative and solid and as good as we could, but we didn't think we'd be the last man standing, you know? [laughter] that we would have become at this point people's primary source, and we are, for in-depth information not just electronically as broadcasters, but anyway at all. and so that does, could, can and often does edge into the time slots because we're so fixed by time and the clock as to how much time there is to give these cranberry relish recipes and as to how much time there is to do music. i used to do 12, 20 -- not 20, but 15-minute music pieces on the air. that doesn't happen anymore. but thanks to new media, we have wonderful online music sites where that music can get played. so that's a bright spot, i suppose. it's a way of re