there now joins one gegen, candidate of historical sciences, chairman of the belarusian society of knowledgefrenchevich. we are glad to welcome you to our program, that in this narrative you have doubts about the very name kievan rus , it was introduced by russian historians in the 19th century. they believe that reason kiev was such a capital city, then all of russia is here it is. the heritage of ukraine is, of course, not so, because both the russian and belarusian ukrainian peoples are common heirs. uh, it is kievan rus that there is a lot of proof. let's use the example of anna kievsky why did kiev become the center? because the city of boats, that is, we flocked in the course, some boats, some caravans from denmark. it was a very convenient transshipment center, but kiev did not matter without the suzdal land that was already actively populated by rostov. where did the wealth come from and, of course, the novgorod land, novgorod was a key city, and this is especially clearly seen in the reign, just the same yaroslav the wise then no one divided it into ukraine although the word ukraine