the 1993/'94 season, we had one captain and another athlete sit with andy geiger and discuss dr. strauss, his access to our locker room, he had a lockner our room, and -- locker in our room, and he would take four, five, six showers with different athletes and different sports and venues on one day, all on the time of the taxpayers of the state of ohio. and this was well known by jim jordan. i recall one day jim jordan, his locker was right next to doc strauss. doc strauss had just taken a shower, was -- was dressing ffor -- to exit the building or go wherever he was going, he saw another male athlete come into the locker room with his shirt off, one of what i called his favorites, he had his favorites, and as doc was walking out, he saw the guy coming in, he stopped in his tracks, he turned around, went back to the locker, undressed, and went back into the shower. and i recall vividly jim jordan looking at me and us going, wow. >> mike disabato, thank you very much. >> brooke, i appreciate your time. thank you. >> thank you, thank you. >>> coming up next, new details emerge bein