. >> she was a woman of great gen rosity is what you are saying. >> that was always a feeling of inclusion and family. she was always very busy. and in terms of having so many interviews. and so many things to do in the city but when she could, she would take time out . after the shows especially overseas, she would hang out and play cards with the band and. >> and that means something. i don't want to cut in on you but you are a percussionist and on tour in houston with cirque du soleil and did michael jackson immortal tour. it means something when they take time with their fans. but the people traveling with them and touring, it means something when she sits down and said let's crack open the card and have fun. >> yes, definitely. it really -- gives you a new-found respect and makes you see them in a human light . i really, really appreciated that with whitney, especially being my first time out on a major world tour. it overwhelming . she really kind of made it a home for all of us. >> did she seem aware of how loved she really was? >> i think so. she really kept can have the family aro