gen. dunford: the center of gravity for eiffel? >> yes, sir. gen. unford: the center of gravity for isil, the ability to erode their narrative, and the manpower, the three primary sources of strength that they have. ensure that isil does not have the capability to .evelop external operations >> you feel it we are going after those factors? we are going after their critical capability, the existence of the caliphate, and when i talk about foreign fighters, we are keeping them from having the manpower necessary to fight. >> i understand. we talked about the coalition and we mentioned before we have 60-some nations as part of the coalition. britain has been part of the coalition. the 60 nations, i imagine some of them may be contributing a box of pencils or something because we do not hear much about what they are doing. do you feel like we are doing enough diplomatically to get in this battle of good versus evil we are engaged in? >> we need more contributions. you're right. it's good to have political support. just about everyone in the world recogniz

gen. dunford: i agree.of you probably read one of the best articles that i read which was in "the atlantic" -- i wish i remembered the author. it was a great article. it framed honestly how they think, what they believe in, what they are trying to do good many of us new pieces but that was probably as comprehensive and coherent and outline as what we are dealing with as anything we've read. unfortunately it has not resonated much. it is not only our troops, i think our troops have a sufficient understanding of what we are dealing with to do what must be done. the that fills me more are 15 or 16-year-old girls and boys who romanticize -- what baffles me more are the 15 or 16-year-old girls and boys who romanticize what isis does and go join the fight. my daughter had to classmates make their way to pakistan and say we would like to join al qaeda. two young guys who grew up in alexandria, virginia. what is concerning to me is that the new death that we spend a lot of time talking about this morning and we do

gen. dunford: certainly, i think we have enduring interests in the region. we have been enduring interest in the stability of iraq. any recommendations i make subsequent to the defeat of isil will reflect those interests. >> i appreciate that, general. >> i think we have five more members. hopefully not everybody will take five minutes. are you all ok with that? mr. secretary, does that work with your --? sec. carter: let me just check. i am traveling somewhere and i don't have my -- general dunford: i am sorry, mr. chairman there is another thing i need to do. let's keep going. if i need to leave, general dunford indicated he would be willing to stay longer. >> man, that is taking one for the team. think -- think -- i thank you both for your service. send our policy to overthrow the syrian government of assad has brought us into a potential direct head to had military conflict with russia, i have some important questions along this line. approximately how many nuclear warheads does russia have aimed at the u.s.? and how many does the united states have aime