. >> in a recent hearing, the longtime chairman dingell ask julius genachowski about the auction process. >> you are going to have a voluntary spectrum auction. how is it going to be voluntary if there is pressure placed on the holders of the spectrum by the commission? >> the options would rely on market incentives. it would allow the market to set a price for existing owners of licenses to make the choice between continuing what they are doing or transferring the license in exchange for the offer from the auction. >> it sounds like a bank holdup to me. you hold a gun to the tellers head and say you know that they're going to voluntarily give you the money or you will shoot them. >> only if the free market is the bank holding. >> i have some dark suspicions on this matter. >> senator smith? >> i agree with congressman dingell. we support voluntary. we are very concerned about the details. the devil is in the details. it really is in the details of repackaging. that is really just forced relocation into a lower power band that would degrade the broadcast signal. we do not want that. i wo

longtime energy and commerce chairman, now member representatives john dingell asks fcc chair julius genachowski about the auction process. >> you are going to have -- you are going to have a voluntary spectrum auction. how is it going to be voluntary if there is pressure which is placed on the holders of the spectrum by the commission? >> has the auctions themselves rely on market incentives, allowing the market to set a price for existing owners of licenses to make the choice between continuing what they are doing or transferring the license in exchange for the offer from the auction. >> it sounds kind of like a bank hold-up to me, hold a gun up to the teller's head and say, we know that you are going to voluntarily give me this money and if you don't i'm going to shoot you in the brains. >> only if the free market is a bank holder. >> i want you to know i have some guarded suspicions on this matter. >> host: senator smith. >> guest: i agree with congressman dingell, and again we support voluntary but we are very concerned of the details. the old adage the devil is in the detail it really is i

you said that in a letter to chairman genachowski. if you are in support of some of these rules such as transparency requirements widely want to see the congressional act used to invalidate all of the rules? would it be better to take a more surgical approach to deal with what troubles you cannot throw the entire rules out? what they do not deal with any of the things that troubles. we are a provider. protecting our competition does not help us. all of the things i have asked help for, we have not gotten. >> you are here to support the practice that will throw out what to agree with as well as what you have a problem with. you think the fcc did not go far enough, would that be an accurate statement? >> yes, sir. >> i represent pittsburgh. i think it is a fantastic service, zipcar, people use of a lot in pittsburgh. you are here and have come a long way to do that. we are policy makers. what is the one thing you would like to share with all of the policy-makers up here with regard to the internet? what do you think congress should be d

chairman genachowski has put in some reforms, and i'm not picking on this commission. i think over time there are issues that come to the fore, there are processes that have, people have had some criticism about how rule makings move forward at the commission. and surprising commissioners and big changes late at night, kind of what congress was doing for a while in this former chairman of the gop transmission. we tried to change that in our rules. the fact that no two commissioners can talk to each other about a policy issue is an issue they've raised with us, and there are members of both sides that say maybe that's something we ought to look at so they can actually talk to each other. and then, of course, there are issues related to the universal service fund. the fcc is working on some proposals on universal service reform, intercarrier compensation, all of those very technical issues, and we've got members in our subcommittee that have an interest in that. spectrum, who has it, who's using it, who's sitting on it, what are the needs, what's the value, how do we add

chairman genachowski has put in some reforms and i'm not picking on this commission. i think over time, there are issues that come to the floor. there are processes that people have had some criticism about, how rulemaking has moved forward at the commission, and surprising commissioners at the changes late at night kind of what congress was doing for a while and the former gop transition we tried to change that in a row. the fact that no two commissioners can talk to each other about a policy issue is an issue they have raised with us and there are members of both sides saying maybe that is something we have to look at so they can actually talk to each other. and then of course there are issues related to the universal service fund and as you know the federal communications system is working on some proposals they are there on universal service reform. intercarrier compensation and those technical situations and we have members on the subcommittee that have an interest in that. spectrum, who has it? who is using it? who is sitting on it, what are their needs, what is