i have also known gene kiernan. i would like to testify to their character. they worked as stellar members of the business community in san francisco for many years and specifically in the highly regulated environment of investment banking which -- where they demonstrated an ability to stay within the confines of that highly regulated industry. equally as important is the genesis of tupelo as i have witnessed was to go out and create a reputable and respectable establishment that was a positive addition to the north beach area and music was at the center of its fame. a key part of that concept in the business plan was to provide a venue to showcase local talent. i am sure that the three of them as i saw them put this concept together of creating tupelo would not have invested all the time in capital into the bar had music not been a central part of what they're trying to establish -- accomplish with the new established. i recoiled at the concept of the city can go back and attempt to reach in the files six years ago and struck the current business of assets t