they want the acting attorney general and his deputy to say the georgia general assembly needed to use the power entrusted to it by the u.s. constitution to simply come together and send their own electors to washington. now, this would be a violation of georgia law. but this letter is the department of justice telling them they do have the constitutional authority to do it. it would be a violation of the will of the georgia voters and the will of the american people. it would mean the department of justice was literally signing onto the coup attempt in its official capacity. it would be a green light for mayhem. and we know from deputy attorney general richard donohue's contemporaneous notes released last week, trump was already pressuring acting attorney general rosen and donohue telling them -- we know trump is pressuring the georgia secretary of state telling them famously, quote, i just want to find 11,780 votes. his key ally in this, jeffrey clark, a guy no one really knows but who is effectively plotting a coup with the president. okay, so then rosen and donohue get this letter.

and then ultimately it will go to the general assembly. but the 1st body that looks at something called the credentials committee of the general assembly. and i think that's normally doesn't do very much work. it doesn't really need to do very much work. but on this occasion, with that, the next general assembly starting next month, i think we're going to have to look at the credentials of afghanistan and the coming back to the. but actually the same time with reminding you, there's a big round going on and to speak about the stuff from me and ma. so potentially we could have to, to representations change was a significant view, james, when the afghan ambassador was saying, no time for the blame game, i mean, not that does not chime at all with those people who are criticizing the bite and administration right now. no. and it doesn't, i don't think chime with a lot of what i'm hearing from those that were part of the gaunt administration. now some of those are blaming the u. s. and some of them are blaming president ghani himself, who clea

and then the general assembly itself may vote on whether the taliban actually take the seat in new york. but i think there's a possibility, and remember we've seen delegations of the taliban going to both moscow and to beijing in recent months. i think there's a possibility. those 2 countries are likely down the line to recognise the taliban government in kabul. now, china's special envoy to have chemistry has met with iran, foreign minister jared's reef into her on many civilians and african soldiers fled across the border into iran. china recognizes the on group last known, held official talks for the high level delegation, including the telephones co founder and deputy leader, chunky ally jones long she johnson. john. china has always respected up janice and sovereignty independence and territorial integrity and has not interfered into kenneth internal affairs has always followed a friendly policy towards all afghan people. china respects the rights of the african people to decide their own future and their own will. china will continue developing good neighborliness and friendly rel

if the department of justice sent that letter, and the georgia general assembly calls a special session, since electors for donald trump to washington, then there wouldn't be a mob. the man who colluded with donald trump on this coup should be disbarred. no one should ever hire him again. he should face eternal public shaming, jeffrey clark. he is insane to let this man, jeffrey clark, get anywhere near any institution in this country that matters at all. he aimed a nuclear weapon at the united states democracy. there have been little to no consequences for anyone involved in this whole disgusting affair. unless there are, they are going to try again. they came very close last time. they came very close last time. charlie savage is a washington correspondent for the new york times and coauthor -- and suing then he plotted with trump. charlie, maybe kills a little bit about mr. gaetz background. what's striking here it is this is not someone who comes from a loyalist -- this is someone who comes up and is essentially in the mainstream channels of republican lawyers. >> that's right. up i

and that's actually a decision of a body called the credentials committee of the general assembly. and it will meet 4 seem to meet in september and then it may take a decision. it should take a decision. it might push it a little further because it's contentious, but that decision is not a decision of some general's, not really of anyone else. it's going to be the decision of the member states of united nations who they will recognize speaking for me, emma. dr. sasa has strong is the campaign of civil disobedience that we are still seeing spasmodically on the streets of me and ma, john packer, and also among zante, both making kind of the same point, which is this, that since the late fifty's, no military dictatorship has always controlled all of the country is very difficult because there are different compet ingredients all within the mix. they're nationwide past against the, the military. me, emma may fall div cdm movement ease, most powerful, non violent movement against the military is story often. in fact, the peaceful movement is strong, cool, and power food and the military

because in september, the united nations general assembly is going to see to, you know, the or decide on who is going to represent the people on the emma and the janitors . trying to show that it is a normal functioning government. and, but, you know, the reality is completely the opposite. they are not in charge of a proper functioning, state health care sector or economy. john pack it in. you are noting there listening to mcdonny in london. i guess you would agree with that, but that's interesting, isn't it? the point that he raised is about the united nations because the me and marin basset to the united nations has very much distance himself from the jones sir. but his position in that continuing position at the united nations in new york is not decided by the generals in napier door is not decided by the powers that be in me. and ma, it's a decision that goes to the united nation at the highest level. they decide who's acceptable to them as any countries? ambassador? that's exactly right. i mean, so 1st of all, i would say there are 2 elements to this. there is the state of me an

as i was leaving my job on december 1st, 2016, i finally reported to the general assembly, made by apology, the united nations had not been able to do as much as we should have done and also forced to establish sort of trust fund element funds $400 million in perpetuity for member states support was utterly meaningless. it was not funded much but i had to leave. to depend on this one. i'm not trying to avoid any responsibilities. i apologized and responsibilities. i hope on this issue, the un should have learned, the un lost the most number, 100 to including the hipaa rendition, with un peacekeeping mission commanding general so we lost a lot, the most number of sacrifices that happened to the united nations peacekeeping operations. >> host: if not lawsuits what can the grieving people do after this? >> guest: when it comes to losses the state department of the united states says it had no jurisdiction over this issue and with district court and peace court did not have jurisdiction and the united nations was not the subject of a legal suit. this is affected. at the time that they were emb

and then the general assembly itself may vote on whether the taliban actually take the seat in new york. that was russia and china, i believe, are now going to speak. hello, they are indeed. so let's take you back to the security council where we can listen to the chinese representatives to the united nations. sometimes i'm going to start the situation thing i was going to start has on the gum major changes. we have respects the wheel and choices the people of underlying the war in kennesaw has lasted for more than 40 years stopping the war. and the shipping piece is not owning the unanimous desperation of more than 30000000 people. it is also the common expectation of international community and the regional countries don't. the present task at a moment is to restore peace and stability and order as much as possible. so as to avoid unnecessary casualties and landscape refugees, to the ultimate extent possible. while the rights and interest of diplomatic emissions and personnel is going to invite liberal safety, security, and interest of foreign nationals. thing of this time must be res

we've heard from the speaker of the general assembly saying they'll take up this report and will look through it and investigate what more could they do? he's in the final year of a term, was anticipating running for re-election. what do you expect? i mean, the impeachment issue could be front and center if the general assembly were to turn on the governor? >> i think there's a couple of questions that this report raises. one is whether what's coming out of this report fuels the impeachment inquiry which is looking at some of these allegations of sexual harassment, but goes well beyond to look at the governor's role and the misreporting of covid deaths in nursing homes whether it's political favoritism and vaccine distribution and covid testing. that has been moving at a bit of a slow burn. it accelerates the pace of that investigation. then we have to see whether this report causes public opinion to turn on the governor so far. democratic primary voters have largely been standing by him that could change. this was an extremely damning report and the scope of it was really quite extra

when he ran for the general assembly, he's in springfield still in his 20sie and he failed at running two stores and tried surveying, was splitting wood and doing anything to make ends meet. a partner in a store left them high and dry and he had to pay off those debts. he did all this while being very curious about the world and about the markets and economics and the things that would transform not only his life, but the life of all rural americans and even people in the cities, so he proposed something very interesting. gthe first thing he said as we e need to develop a canal which would have facilitated access to the markets in new orleans and further south and also later it would connect chicago to the illinois river. it'shi about 96 miles, and as a third thing which actually was pooh-poohed at the time because everybody thought it was going to be way too expensive connect the whole state to the markets at the time and that railroad was going to be called the illinois central. so he worked with a fellow named stephen douglas whose great amrival throughout life and politics to get

general assembly. the biden administration is considering the possibility of some sort of gathering. there is still time to do preparation. we will see what happens. there are no clear plans laid down. host: let us talk to albert, calling from sue, new jersey. caller: good morning. i could not understand what is going on. how come the biden administration can estop travel from borders and people from coming into our country because the delta strain? they did not do that. even if we get americans and vaccinations, people keep coming into the country. how are you want to get a hold on this virus and stop it from spreading? people are coming in from all over who are not vaccinated. they're going to keep earning in the virus. it is going to be a cycle. guest: my response to you, great question. turn things on his head a little bit. -- turn things on its head a little bit. international travel by those coming into the united states has dropped. we spent billions trying to hold the major airlines together so

in the united nations, ambassador henry spearheaded a vote by the general assembly condemning russian in hungary. the vote was 55 to eight with 13 abstentions. the situation became critical when khrushchev demanded the evacuation of allied awesome [inaudible]. russia failed to win support of its berlin policy in the un as britain, france and the united states stood firmly on the berlin treaty. khrushchev was forced to adopt a softer policy. in the following period of relaxed tension, vice president nixon visited an american exposition in moscow where he engaged khrushchev in an impromptu debate. >> you must not be afraid of ideas. >> we are not afraid of ideas. >> let's have more exchange. we all agree on that, right?. okay. [applause] >> he paid a return visit to the united states, the president entertain him at camp david in the interest of world peace. at that meeting, plans were developed for second second -- summit conference at paris in 1960. plans for the summit meeting were well advanced and the big four national leaders had arrived in paris. preliminary discussions of the age

one of his first really campaign planks in the 1830s when he ran for general assembly he is in springfieldllinois young man in his 20 failed it running two stores, tried surveying, was splitting wood was doing anything to make ends meet. he had some debts, a partner in a store left him high and dry, he had to pay off those debts. he did all of this while being very curious about the world and about markets and economics. things that would transform not only his life but the life of all rural americans and even people in cities. he proposed something very interesting. the first thing you said is we need to build a canal from springfield all the way to the illinois river which would facilitate a great newport and access to the markets in new orleans and further south. and also to create a canal that would later be called the illinois michigan cannot which would connect chicago it's only about 96 miles. and as a third thing which actually was pooh-poohed at the time because everybody thought it was going to be way too expensive, was a major river thing to connect the whole state to the rest o

all of it has a america up in arms so regardless of what the new york general assembly does and theyeems for the politics of it, they can't escape and the party can't escape what this politics has done to them. griff: let's break those two nursing home scandals being investigated at the federal level. let's just deal in the 165-page report laying out 11 accusers. kevin, tomorrow the judiciary committee will meet to discuss plans on impeachment. is there a political risk to new york democrats if they don't move fast enough to impeach cuomo? >> yeah, griff, it's a good question. i think it's likely isolated to governor cuomo. hopefully as democrat on the panel and i'm seeing democrats move swiftly in albany. they need to impeach him to tony's point this is a prideful guy and for whatever reason he does not see the writing on the wall. every national democrat has abandoned the governor rightly so along with democrats in albany, entire democratic congressional delegation, myself i called for resignation back in march on the faulkner focus based on the nursing home scandals and the accuse

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the purpose of the special session the department recommends, would be for the general assembly to evaluate.s. in 2020 election. determine whether those violations show which candidate for president won the most legal votes, in the november 3rd election. and number three, to determine whether the election failed to make a proper and valid choice between the candidates, such that the general assembly could take whatever action is necessary to ensure that one of the slates of electors cast by the state, would be accepted by congress on january six. again, this is a letter, to georgia, dissipated december 20th. this is jeff clark, head of the justice department, writing this letter, telling the state legislature in georgia, that they should consider the election corrupt, because the justice department has looked into it and found all sorts of corruption. and therefore, the state legislature to take matters into their own hands, to replace the states biden electors with trump electors, and do it before january six. when the electoral college votes would be counted. in the letter, jeff clark eve

and one of his first really campaign when he ran for the general assembly, in springfield illinois now, still young man in his 20s, he felt it running to stores tried surveying, swimming would doing anything to make ends meet and he has some debts and a department in the store hade left in my right hand of a half-dozen he did all of this will be very curious about the world reading about the market in economics and things that would transform not only his life but the life of all rural american or even people sit in the cities. so he compose something very interesting the first thing that he said was that we needed to build a canal from the springfield all the way to that your own life river which would've facilitated a great new part a great new access to the markets in new orleans and from south n and also create a canal that would later be called the michigan canaler which would connect chicago to the illinois river predict the 96 miles and the third thing which actually was pooh-poohed at that time because everybody thought it was to be way too expensive, was a major railroad conne

humanitarian assistance to afghanistan in accordance with the principles enshrined in resolution of the general assembly 4682. we understand the reasons the authors tried to use their authority of the security council to adopt the resolution in this form, and such a tight timeframe but perhaps if we had more time, the result of the vote would have been different. at the same time, we can see there has been an attempt to shift the blame of the collapse of the presence of the united states and others in the region and also countries in the region still have to deal with the results of this. it is irresponsible on behalf of the western coalition. it is not surprising, given the purely formal way in which the former international security forces reported before the council which subsequently was replaced by the resolute support training mission. for our part, the russian federation had consistently called for a -- afghanistan on this territory. there would be no terrorist or drug threats emanating. we will continue our support for afghans to achieve this goal. thank you. >> i thank the representative of the

we'll see what the general assembly says though right now. they are still meeting. ayman? >> staying on the subject of masks for a moment. there's been an ongoing fight about mask mandates in florida between the governor and school districts across the state. bring us up to speed on how that's playing out. >> reporter: well, ayman, it certainly is a volatile issue. it is up where the governor has the sole authority because through executive order he's given himself that authority to say i will make the decision. 67 counties, 67 different school districts. three counties have decided to defy the governor's order. broward county where i am right now says they are going to require kids to wear masks. that begins school next week. same thing in duval county and kind of an interesting twist in duval county. they will have people who don't want to wear masks opt out and psychological studies show that generally when people opt out it's a much lower percentage who drop out rather than opting in which requires a little bit more, i guess, activity of the person saying okay, i'm goi

department of justice, recommends that the georgia general assembly should convene in special session to take additional testimony, receive new evidence, and deliberate on this matter. the purpose of the special session, the department recommends, would be for the assembly to evaluate the irregularities in the 2020 election, determine whether those violations show which candidate for president won the most legal votes in the election. and, number three, is determine whether the election failed to make a proper and valid choice between the candidates, such that the general assembly could take whatever action is necessary to ensure that one of the slates of electors cast by the state will be accepted in -- by congress on january 6th. so again, this is a letter to georgia dated december 28th. this is jeff clark, head of the civil division in trump's justice department writing this letter, essentially telling the state legislature in georgia that they should consider consider the election corrupt because the justice department has looked into it and found all sorts of significant corrupti

trying to basically gain international legitimacy, because in september, the united nations general assemblygoing to decide on who is going to represent the people of myanmar and the junta is trying to show that it is a normal, functioning government. but the reality is completely the opposite, they are not in charge of proper functioning state health care sector or economy. peter: john packer, you were nodding while listening to him in london. the point he raises about the united nations, the myanmar ambassador to the united nations has very much distanced himself from the junta but his position in that continuing position at the united nations in new york is not just -- not decided by the generals or the powers that be in myanmar. it is a decision that goes to the united nations at the highest level. they decide what is acceptable to them, as any countries ambassador. >> that is exactly right. i would say there are two elements to this. there is the state of myanmar is the subject of international relations or law. then the subject of the character of that state, its population, and the co

best to organize but as i was leaving my job december 1st in 2016 i finally reported to the general assembly and made my apology the united nations had not been able to do as much as we should have done and i also proposed with funding with the $400 million but unfortunately the member states support was not funded much. i hope they would have carried on that i'm not trying to avoid any responsibilities. i apologized so i there is no misunderstanding on this issue the un should have learned it lost the most number. 102 un staff including the head of the un mission and in the peacekeeping mission. so we lost a lot of think that is the most number of sacrifices with the peacekeeping operations. host: if not a lawsuit then what can they grieving haitian people do after this. >> when it comes to a lawsuit and then the district court. and then the united nations was not the subject of a legal suit there was some movement and campaign to be pursued but it's not because of our lawyers but at the vienna convention that the un was not legally liable. host: is or something be when can do to repair its

september 2019 venezuela's vice president revealed the exact location to the united nations general assembly that neither does that, then it does make united. but as far as columbia, we're not going to see on contrariness, waylon, bonanza, and we are going to do that. in fact, i believe that they're, they're going to need the information gathered by ben as well as cuban trained intelligence service, was to prove impressively accurate wellness is adamant that they don't get linear from days about us already call a 7 day course bundle that with the i'm in israel, i think it but a but out of but i was going to show that was getting it. the book is lucky. bushway legal people swing into this gathering storm. now that the former us special forces soldier, canadian, american jordan, good drugs on leaving the army in 2018 goodrow had set up a security services company called silva or usa. and he was even higher to provide security at a ruddy, put donald trump. he 1st forged legs with exile, venezuelans, and early 2019 charity, and prove that met the opposition leadership now plotting murderers. an

september 2019 venezuela's, vice president revealed the exact location to the united nations general assembly that neither does that, then it does make united. but if i'm the columbia, when i get a young contrariness whaler born and then they will do that, in fact, i believe that they're going to name the information gathered by then, as well as cuban trained intelligence service, was to prove impressively accurate on this assignment that that was linear for days about us already could settle day course going that way. yeah, i mean as well. i think it, yes i have but a but out of but i was going to show that we're getting lucky. bushwinger luca, people going into this gathering store now that the former us special forces soldier, canadian, american jordan, good reading. on leaving the army in 2018 goodrow had setup a security services company called silva or usa. and he was even higher to provide security of ruddy for donald trump. he 1st forged linked with exile, venezuelans, and early 2019 charity cars and prove that met the opposition leadership. now plotting madura as an opportunity becko

general assembly says that process is already underway. well, coming up next on the profit warning new santa clara county leaders are calling it. >> a public health crisis. what a new study is revealing about san jose's read hillview airport. well, the south bay, a new study is shedding light on the negative effect. aircraft fuel has on childr-n. >> living near reid hillview airport in san jose last year the santa clara county board of supervisors approved plans to close the airport by 2031, citing safety concerns as well as excessive noise and pollution now results from a study commissioned by the county found higher amounts of lead in the blood of children living near the airport. experts say this can cause long-term damage to a child's brain. >> what this very thorough study proves is that we literally have a crisis on our hands. this is a public health issue. it's an environmental justice issue and it's an equity issue because the people who live around reid hillview are among those that are least affluent in our community. >> recommen

and again in november of 1981, the nations sponsored a resolution in the united nations general assemblystated that what was happening in afghanistan was a cause for concern to us all. >> critically the small developing nations or anxious to free ourselves from an independent on the basis of the policy alliance. the fact that the soviet union by name in the michelin mollie holmes adams relating to afghanistan, deep disappointment. an evening nation. the superpower that often claims itself to be a supporter of the third world and alliance movements. >> once again, the vote: from the withdrawal of the soviet from afghanistan was overwhelming. in this time 116 in favor and 23 against. >> the actual third it was rather strong. and especially strong, more than anybody could've expected. for the first time in since the 50s, the majority of the countries in the united nations come down this aggression. >> and in a filmmaker and former british officer has been a close observer of soviet military aggression in afghanistan. >> in the first year after the invasion, during 1980, the cycle of shock o

collective security plans were offered, but you want at the you and secured the cal at the un general assembly by mr. honey couple of years ago. and he has always been asking them to step forward away from the united states, away from trans regional power. clearly implement the hope it there are very long differences of opinion here about what is incentivizing these discussions. but we do see there were a number of heads of state that actually showed up in baghdad, but re add and tear on both only sent their foreign ministers. i'm going to throw this one to ali and i'll come back to the other 2 of you gentlemen. in a 2nd, how significant do you think that is in a moment, but i know you wanted to come in here as well. would you expect higher level engagement going forward on interest you unfortunately, the discussion here shows the situation is not to listen and you can see that my colleague did it, even if the test to mr. better to continue with idea, and when you try to stop them, he didn't accept your interference because he wants everybody to listen to him. and this is the problem better. i

he was at the united nations general assembly last year and he said that kenya had made some very badcountry at the cost of the environment and that is not sustainable. and he made a commitment that kenya would end the extinction of species within ten years by making sure that it's not business as usual, but that all businesses have to align themselves to sustainability. now, the problem is, when you go down the ranks to all the various agencies — whether it's roads and transport infrastructure, industry, agriculture — we're not seeing that message getting picked up. and that's really, where, i think, we have a challenge. and that's a lot to do with our systems, the priority with which environment is listed in our budget and decision—making. the fact that the big four — which is the president's big development agenda — doesn't include environment, is a big problem for me. crosstalk. if i may stop you there, that's the very point i'm trying to make — you have a president and government in kenya who are committed to long—term growth through industrialisation in your country. and industr

strictly in accordance with the guiding principles of the un enshrined in resolution of the general assembly. 4682 mister president. we understand the reasons that it's cited the authors to try to use the authority of the security council to adopt the resolution in this form and such a tight timeframe. but perhaps if we'd had more time, the result of the vote would have been different floating. at the same time, we can see in this an attempt to shift the blame for the failure collapse of the 28th of the presence of the united states and their allies in the region upon the taliban. and also the countries in the region. they will have to deal with the results of this, this irresponsible action on behalf of the western coalition visa. and is not surprising, given the purely formal way in which the form that international security forces. the nature mission reported before the council, which subsequently was replaced by the resolute support training mission place. for our part, the russian federation has consistently called for a peace, safe and going to stand on his territory. that would be no

this is coming to a head the september when the credential committee will meet ahead of the general assembly and must decide who is the gentleman representative you and in the past is said that government that was seized by force which should not be recognized by the international community, but what the international community is going to do and, and how it's going to handle that will come down to world powers, including the united states in china. and russia, who may have different views on this, and traditionally sit on the credentialing committee. but shock here at the united nations that bassett are here in new york. apparently the target of 2 men who were paid getting payments from a arms dealer and thailand who has a relationship with the military in me and mar, or a christmas livery live. first, there the united nations a wildfires are continuing to ravage large parts of the greek island of area of firefighters and now into the 8th day of battling the flames. there's a bas robbie joins us now from the island of area. so the water conditions like that right now, well has in the situat

council take more action and this means passing a resolution of its own to support what the un general assembly has declared possible, which is an arms and bugger on men. ma, we want to see stave being prevented from selling any more weapons or julius goods that the military they can use on its own population. many mon, from human rights watch. joining me from sidney. thank you very much for your time . me sweeping cro virus restrictions have come into effect in buckets done unvaccinated people in borrowed from government offices. schools, restaurants, shopping, miles and commercial flights under 3 percent of buckets on ease of received to jobs . the biggest city karachi is subject to a one week partial lockdown of a sharp increase in cove at 19 infections before the very latest joiner kemal hider, who live outside the vaccination center in the capital, islamabad and real concern for the authorities, are ended up going on and also a challenge because you have thoughts have been reporting from karachi and can understand that this is a congested date where the bulk of the labor for employed on da

and those earlier documents and international law that the security council, the general assembly, and the un human rights council have repeatedly said, israel isn't flagrant violation of so it's no great logical step to say that if the settlements are, are great breach of the 14 convention and using or should the same language there war crime under the 1998 our own statute. well, israel obviously denies war crimes. the united states doesn't to be really recognized view in human rights council. and presumably it's now up to the international criminal court to decide on the allegations of war crimes. does that mean that any businesses here in britain say, or in the you, if they are involved in the settlement building or house destruction, or they facilitating war crimes? sure. mean that definition that was created in 1998 is quite broad. it says any, basically any actions directly or indirectly. those are the key words that are in the definition of war crimes in the rome statute maybe may amount to person the prosecution of those involved in it. so it would be, obviously, these really m

recommendations came in may and we just had a very good briefing sexing —— session of the un general assemblyous about all of his. he recommended they work towards a political declaration on reform for the global architecture around preparedness and response. our recommendations have two sets. one is a meteor to longer terms systems a set of issues and the other, the immediate issues with the vaccines. vaccines are critical. they are inevitably being rolled out. africa inevitably being rolled out. africa in the last month according to the who has had an 80% spike in deaths. this is totally inevitable and unethical, and ijust appeal to higher income countries to do whatever you can to fully fund the needs and get the vaccines out there. besides preparing for the next pandemic, are you satisfied with our understanding of the origins of the virus? what more can the who do, especially since china has rejected the second phase of the plan to study the origins of the virus? at the moment, we don't have the smoking gun in the public arena as to where it came from. there is the lab theories and there