please join me in welcoming general stanley mcchrystal to brookings. [applause] >> thank you for coming. it is a privilege to be on the platform with you. thank you for that very generous introduction. we are going to have a conversation for the first half or so of the hour and a half that we have. i will ask the general a bunch of questions. at about 10:45, maybe later, we will open it up to questions from you. it is an honor to have you here today. this is the maiden voyage of the brookings intelligence project. the brookings intelligence project is a new effort to try to resolve the riddle of intelligence successes and failures, the enigma of why intelligence is sometimes brilliantly successful and other times spectacular failures. one of the great successes is behind the hunt for zarqawi. why should we care about a dead jordanian? zarqawi's legacy remains with us today. the terrorists who this month attacked a natural gas facility in algeria, al qaeda and the islamic -- they almost worship of -- worship abu musab al- zarqawi. he is a more popular ic

general. thank you to you and mr. mcchrystal for the joint forces initiative. a marine sergeant in the reserve and in working for the navy. good afternoon again. my question is, do you think were at risk of the same mistake we saw after vietnam and using the expertise with this potential sequester on the possibility of moving operations funding and the hard expertise of our special operators? >> yeah, we are. first, the defense budget is coming down and it needs to come down a lot. the defense budget has gotten huge and based upon the nations finances, we've got to bring it down, but the process is underway. people sometimes talk about what needs than 3% or 4% of gdp for defense. that's a approach. you need to spend as much on defense is a need to defend yourself, but no more and i think they're working on that. the sequester is completely different. sequestered was designed to be something so unpalatable that sane people would never let it happen. [laughter] we confuse the last part because what happens is that the sequester in 2013 and don't think the decisio

. >> general stanley mcchrystal speaking on "morning joe" here on msnbc last month.rystal was the commander of forces in afghanistan until he resigned back in 2010 after michael hastings' profile of him in "rolling stone" that was so controversial. last month general mcchrystal put out his own book and started doing the interview rounds to promote it. but anybody booked to talk about anything in america in early january 2013 was going to end up talking about gun violence because of what happened at sandy hook, the elementary school massacre at newtown. even retired military commanders were asked to weigh in, and they had something to say about it. well, today that happened at a whole another level. >> i know. i know what guns can do. >> guns in the right hands protect us. >> guns belong on battlefields. >> guns belong in a place that is safe and secure. >> assault weapons are weapons of war. >> not for cowards to use. >> in movie theaters. >> in classrooms. >> or on our streets. >> as a general. >> as an admiral. >> as a member of the armed force. >> as a gunowner, i

up next retired general stanley mcchrystal recounts the major turning points in his 34-year career. in an hour, david cap plan how general david petraeus changed military strategy in the insurgents. a essay about journalists government officials and scholars. now retired general stanley mcchrystal. [applause] >> well, thank you very much. thanks for coming out. i think this is a wonderful opportunity for the gentleman sitting next to me is kind of a big deal. for anyone who is, pays attention to american foreign policy and military affairs you know that ever since the attacks on this country on 9/11 the united states has had to evolve militarily, in our intelligence community in many ways to meet the challenge of this new enemy. and more than anyone that i can think of general mcchrystal has been responsible for shaping that evolution and developing the, what i call the targeting engine which is what we have, i think adopted as our primary method of defending the country. so thank you for being here, general mcchrystal. great to see you. >> thanks, mark. thanks for a too kind introdu

general. thank you for to you and mrs. mcchrystal. i'm a marine sergeant and the reserve and i'm working for the navy. good afternoon, again. my question is do you think we're in risk of the same mistake we saw after vietnam in losing the expertise with the potential sequester and the possibility of losing special operations funding and the hard, expertise of our special operators? >> yeah. yeah we are. first, the difn budget is already coming down and needs to come down a lot. the -- defense budget has gotten huge and based upon the nation's finances we have to bring it down. i think the process is already underway. what people talk about defense they talk about we need to spend three or 4% of gdp for defense. i think that's a dumb approach. you need to spend as much foreign defense as you need to defend yourself. it was designed to be something so that sane people would never let it happen. [laughter] we confused the last part. because what happens is now if you sequester in 2013 and you don't make the decision until early spring, t

a reality we seldom see, says stanley mcchrystal, the retired general who once ran the military's drone strike program. >> if the threshold gets too low and we are too casual about it, then we will forget how much scar tissue we build up in those countries. >> reporter: general mcchrystal believes that americans should have the opportunity to know more about these secret drone wars, to weigh those benefits and risks. that rare opportunity will occur tomorrow, when john brennan speaks. diane? >> it is going to be a very combustive day. thank you, martha raddatz. >>> and also today, a more trusted part of american life has succumbed to modern times. the postal service announced today that saturday delivery of letters will soon end in august. only packages will come to your door. and abc's ron claiborne tells us about the surprising ways this will affect everyone. >> reporter: a $15 billion budget deficit has done what neither rain nor sleet nor snow could do. >> the choice is either change some of the service or raise prices. and people don't want prices raised. we'll make the changes in

in iraq, all the attempts on one sunday were the result of some extraordinary soldiers like general mcchrystal, for example, who ban to understand that this straightforward confrontation will not work. they have seen the greatest conquers and come and go and have not been defeated. the british empire defeated. the soviets defeated. what made us assume that we are so different that we will deny history itself. at great costs to themself, they're fiercely independent. they fight with each other or foreigners or invaders. so had we understood the mechanics, the culture, i think we could have handled it differently. and then promoted what needed to be promoted and strengthen our own impact and footprint in afghanistan. education, health schemes, reaching out to local governments, awful these are wanted by the afghans. they would welcome the americans. is was educated in an american college, christian college. we produced several presidents of pakistan, member office parliament. every one of us is so great the american teachers who taught us. so why couldn't we give colleges and schools instead of

and now general stanley mcchrystal discusses his book "my share of the task" with co-author mark bowden. former commander of u.s. forces recounts the major turning point in his thirty-four year military career which ended in 2010. this is about an hour. [applause] >> thank you very much, thanks for coming out. wonderful opportunity, the gentleman sitting next to me is kind of a big deal. for anyone who is -- pays attention to american foreign policy and military affairs you know that ever since the attacks on this country on 9/11 the united states has had to evolve militarily and in the intelligence community to meet the challenge of this new enemy and more than anyone i can think of, general mcchrystal has been responsible for shaping the evolution and developing what i call the targeting engine which is what we adopted as the primary method of defending the country. thank you for being here, great to see you. >> thanks for two kind introduction. i thought of you as a nonfiction writer but you have gone into fiction now. >> you were the commander of special operations in iraq and afgha

but retired general now mcchrystal -- a man strikes much greater than the average american appreciates. they are hated on a visceral level even by people who have never seen one or seen the effects of one." have we opened a pandora's box we may regret in 20 years? >> as always i think the united states has to always pay attention to these issues and make sure that, you know, that we're applying the right standards abiding by the laws of this country. but in the end also using what we have to use against the enemies of the united states. i mean, after all in 9/11 al qaeda attacked us in a brutal way that killed, you know, 3,000 innocent people in our trade center and killed almost 200 people at the pentagon as well as those in pennsylvania. it was a deliberate act of terrorism. we went to war. and when you go to war and you have an enemy out there, you've got to use everything you can to make sure you go after that enemy. and that's what we did. and the fact is we had very precise effective operations to go right at al qaeda's leadership. and by weakening them and by significantly impac

. >> bill, well, we've had people like stanley mcchrystal, former general mcchrystal, the problem usinghe drone strikes to the extent, 300 plus now, is that they actually cause an enormous amount of, you know, people are resentful overseas because of the collateral damage and obviously, there is collateral damage during war time and people know that. for obama, i'm going to get rid of gitmo, get rid of gitmo and outstretch our hand and you're going to unclench your fist and the world is a better place. mcchrystal says we've got to be careful, if that's one of obama's goals, new america, new approach, it's not bush, and especially when used against american citizens which we haven't talked about, this has all sorts of other repercussions in the middle east. >> bill: the consequences and they're going to hate us anyway. i support the drone program. >> do you support them against american citizens. >> bill: yeah, working with al-qaeda. blow the hell out of them. >> how about the standards imminent, the shifting definition of an imminent threats. >> bill: all right, next, i've got to run no

a preview of what is to come on her show kicking off in thirty minutes abby so you know general stanley mcchrystal general the former general his idea for getting more cultured and learn about the world guess what it is i don't know he wants to instill the draft he says that going over the barrel of a gun will help us learn about other cultures of the worlds we're talking about this outrageous statement he made along with of course the news of the day monsanto's court case it was a pretty court versus the indiana farmer that much more check out break in the next thirty minutes thanks for that update out there but that is going to do it for the news now from around the stories we covered you can always check out our you tube channel you tube dot com slash r t america our web site r t dot com slash usa and you can fall.

i interviewed general stanley mcchrystal. mid-level al qaeda are being hit. they don't know why or how this happens. we, as americans, war is changing and we should know more about how it is changing, how we are employing, basically, a deaf strike -- death strike on how that works. it was a great thing coming out of the hearing. tavis: about the pope? >> i got a call just about 6:00 this morning and i turned on the morning america and we were talking about the first time in 600 years. it is remarkable that one of the things is that haute than evict. having them, it is kind of liked the old boss is still there. tavis: syria? >> syria is a huge problem in a number of ways. after the israeli air strike inside syria, those missiles, it is extremely tense in israel. they are worried about retaliation. 60,000 people have died and no one can come up with a solution. there is fragmentation out. this is a crisis that has not been resolved. tavis: martha raddatz, thank you for coming on. >> i am thrilled, thank you so much. tavis: up next, a look at the documentary ver

on friday february /8 former commander in afghanistan retired general mcchrystal will address the aspenute regarding his memoir and removal by president obama. >> aspen institute is that one dupont circle. that is a rundown for the week of february 420-1/3. you can find more on my thoughts dtc.com and twitter hash tag y-uppercase-letter down. we'll see you next week oh dear, i got a flat tire. hmmm. uh... yeah, can you find a take where it's a bit more dramatic on that last line, yeah? yeah i got it right here. someone help me!!! i have a flat tire!!! well it's good... good for me. what do you think? geico. fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more on car insurance. i just had to write. you can't imagine how long i've been searching for something like this for my family. i'm amazed you make so many great flavors that are gluten free. my guys are crazy for chocolate chex and honey nut chex. for me, it's cinnamon. it means a lot to be able to give them something that's good for them, that also puts smiles on their faces. 'cause i really love those smiles. we're the harris fam

semiautomatic military-style weapons and on your very show a couple of weeks ago, stanley mcchrystal, general mcchrystalons are made for wars and the rounds they fire are made to destroy the enemy. if we showed pictures of those 20 kids killed with the .223 caliber bushmaster, it would change the equation because even the congress people who are sort of bought and sold by the nra couldn't ignore that horror. so we need what the president is calling for. i mean, our state of massachusetts like minneapolis has proven this isn't a theoretical issue. this is how do you reduce injuries and deaths of guns without banning civilian weapons and you do it by universal background checks, a ban on military-style weapons and high capacity ammunition clips. >> you have the democratic mayor of minneapolis rybak earlier today going after harry reid for saying he had not read feinstein's bill and did not support the assault weapons bill. let's listen in. john, thanks for sticking around. >> well, it is good to be back in minnesota. it is good to be back. i was commenting that they don't really have winter in washington,

we even have someone like general mcchrystal saying, we don't understand the visceral hatred coming againsthe u.s. because of these drone strikes. we also to copies of living under drones done by nyu and stanford law school that explains it is not only the killing, but the terrorizing of an entire population where they hear the drums buzzing overhead 24 hours a day, where they are afraid to go to school, to funerals, weddings, to the market. it disrupts entire communities. we're trying to get this information to our elected officials to say that you are making as unsafe your home, nothing to say how illegal and inhumane these policies are. >> codepink has taken the initial step of hiring a lobbyist to try to write legislation around this drone warfare? but yes, we have. we hired a lobbyist that understands the left and right in the congress and tried to pull together people from both sides were may be less afraid to criticize president obama to come to gather to try to put some regulation into this out of control use of drones by both the cia and the military, but one important thing is to

thank you for being here, general mcchrystal. it is great to see you. >> i know that you are the commander of our special operations in iraq and afghanistan. and there has been, as i mentioned, a rapid evolution. i am familiar from writing black hawk down with the way things were in the early '90s. can you give us an idea of some of the overall strategies that have evolved, and we will get the specifics and also maybe the tactics that you have developed? >> taking you back a little bit, at the end of the vietnam war as america has done with other boys, special operations units that are created, they essentially get gutted or disbanded entirely. there is a bias to do away with them. in the late 1970s, the american special operating forces, they were really in pretty prophetic shape. they were barely a shadow of what they had saranac payday at the vietnam war. in 1980, the mission was launched to try to conduct a rescue mission to rescue the american citizens were held hostage in the embassy. and it failed. it not only failed painf

. >> bill, what we have also had people like stanley mcchrystal's former general mcchrystal say the problemthese drone strikes, to the extent that we are using them, 300 plus now, is that they actually cause an enormous amount of, you know, people are resentful overseas because of all the collateral damage and obviously there was collateral damage during war time, everybody knows that. but for obama, he he came into office, get rid of gitmo. getting rid of gitmo. unstretch hand and unclinch first and world is going to be a better place. mcchrystal's point is we have to be very careful here. if that's one of obama's goals. new america, new approach it's not bush. then essentially when used against american citizens, which we haven't talked about, this has all sorts of other repercussions in the middle east. bill till it has unintended consequences. i support the drone program. i do. >> do you support them against american citizens. >> bill: if they are working with al qaeda. >> how about the standards they have, bill? the standards imminent is the shifting definition of imminent threat. >> b

admiral mullen, general mcchrystal have all expressed concerns that every time we have a drone that mishitsns, we set back our strategy in those countries by months, if not years. >> that's what the national security overseas. i guess, mayor reed, there is also a question about where this goes. i think that ultimately, a lot of liberal critics are saying if this becomes more elastic, if this is unchecked, what are the limits to it? i mean, look at what's going on in los angeles, this pursuit of chris dorner, who is the officer there, the subject of this manhunt. you know, could we ultimately use drone technology to both, you know, track him and ultimately kill him if he's an imminent threat? is that where it goes and is that an appropriate use of it? >> i don't think it goes there if we prevent it from going there. the president's been very clear that he wants to create a structure that informs congress appropriately. but we've got to remember, both president bush and president obama have kept this country safe. and you know when you communicate with him personally, he takes nothing more se

what general mcchrystal said is, look, what concerns him is they're now going after midlevel al qaedal taliban. where does that stop and who makes the decision that something is imminent? >> congressman ellison, you've been on this for some time. you want much more oversight from the congress. >> that's right. i looked into this. i haven't found one public hearing on drones. now, we had the brennan hearings but congress has the oversight responsibility here, and, by the way, the president has invited the conversation and said we need a legal architecture around this thing so why not do it. i don't think this is a partisan issue at all. i think we need to get a hold of this technology because other countries will be weaponizing drones. certainly we will probably have objections to how they use them if they don't use them in accordance to due process and international standards. and, by the way, the paper that the president -- well, the administration released uses the term "imminent threat." >> and who decides that, right? >> well, this is the broadest use of the term imminent i've eve

has offered up a really great solution to the problem reinstate the draft pick up former general stanley mcchrystal the man responsible for the failed troop surge in afghanistan said this in a recent interview with foreign affairs that america suffers right now from the fact that many americans don't meet or deal with anybody outside their social or cultural circle i think mandatory national service would have a huge effect to help us in that direction wow that makes complete sense let's force people to be mindless robots working on behalf of the military industrial complex in order. become cultured crystal the idea of meeting people outside of our cultural circles is forcing the barrel of a gun in their faces and bombing their foreign lands i'm sure that the best way to learn about the world is traveling with the most brainwashed jingoistic attitude of american exceptionalism nothing more inviting camouflage in a semi-automatic rifle whatever happened to studying abroad learning other languages doing piecework or simply reading it's amazing what you can learn about the world from reading a book lo

general powell, general mcchrystal and general barnett seven of them i met with yesterday without in the public in saying these are warranted on the battlefield and you don't need that in at home to hunt or to protect yourself. fourth we propose the gun trafficking statute. you are probably the only folks in america know there is and a gun trafficking proposal. today often the only way to press the straw purchasers to prove a light on the background check and not only is it hard to do but usually comes with about six months. the trafficking gun statute would make it a criminal offense to purchase guns with the intent to transfer to another person. there would be exceptions for buying gifts for people allowed to possess guns in there could be a sentence of up to 20 years. fifth, as all of you know we have to increase the number of police officers on the street. no one knows it better than you. up to 30,000 badges because of the recession had her taken off and put in a drawer and fewer people on the street. one thing the crime bill of 94 showed the more sworn officers on the street the

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a reality we seldom see says stanley mcchrystal, the retired general who once ran the military's droned gets too low and we're too casual about it, then we'll forget how much scar tissue we have built up in those countries. >> reporter: general mcchrystal believes americans should have the chance to know about these secret drone wars to weigh the benefits and risks. they will have that opportunity when john brennan speaks. martha raddatz, abc news, jerusalem. >> one of the more interesting things in our post 9/11 world. we've seen this debate before, whether it was waterboarding and torture, whether it was abu ghraib, about how far are we willing to go to protect ourselves, if it means compromising our ideals when it comes to due process and civil liberties. it's an interesting debate. there probably's no real right answers. we've seen this kind of debate before. now the latest incarnation happens to be these drone strikes. >> and there are lawmakers in 11 states that want to do away with these. they're afraid that these drones are going to start flying over their states. but police ag

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general stanley mcchrystal, the commander of u.s. forces in afghanistan, is not someone who is soft on terrorism. he has raised concerns about his view that the widespread use of drones is raising what he calls a visceral hatred in the big parts of the world. the united states has a big interest in winning over the hearts and minds of those people. because of the drones, they are turning against us. it is kind of a short-term solution that seems easy. the long-term problems may be costly for the united states. they may be causing harm that we will have to deal with for years to come. host: next up is jane on our line for republicans. caller: mr. anders took by words away when he said it is too easy. what is happening with this is in gives too much power to the president and the people he appoints. they are not elected people. this is something that should go through congress. when you go to kill someone without a trial, i do not care is it is an enemy combatants or an american citizen, there should be some form of bipartisan scrutiny

when you look at whether it's gabby giffords or ray kelly or general mcchrystal or any -- this time iswon't see it coming. >> stephanie: here comes a predator from a helicopter. oops. now, and this is the final mail. sill vister stallone -- sylvester stallone supports the assault weapons ban. when rambo supports the assault weapons ban you've lost the fight. 58 minutes after the hour. right back on "the stephanie miller show." [ ♪ theme ♪ ] >> stephanie: all right. hour number three. hello, jacki schechner. >> hello. >> stephanie: oh, come on. you know you want to dance. come on, come on! ♪ all the single ladies ♪ ♪ all the single ladies ♪ >> you can't see it. >> i didn't like that version last night though. it didn't have the pep that this version has. >> stephanie: it was something with the sound quality. >> she could let them each sing a line. >> stephanie: then she shoved them into the bleachers. >> your mics are a little lower than mine but help me with this. >> stephanie: i thought they were going to be bringing her water and stuff. >> they both looked great though. >> they did.

that'll start at 8 eastern with retired general stanley mcchrystal and then fred kaplan will discuss required general david petraeus and jeffrey ending el on a collection of essays on the gulf war. again, that gets under way at 8 eastern here on c-span2. [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] [laughter] >> okay. [inaudible conversations] >> okay. good morning, everyone, and thank you so much for join us. at the end of the holiday weekend. we are here this morning to discuss an issue that is -- [inaudible] a great deal of attention here in washington and around the world in the coming year. this is been so much discussion -- there has been so much discussion about the desire of the u.s. electorate, as reflected in the vote last november, to reduce its engagement in foreign affairs broadly, to shy away from new entanglements and also to turn its attention perhaps a bit more away from the middle east and toward other parts of the world. and we've seen the intentions of the administration in that regard. but, of course, here

do you agree with general mcchrystal and director hayden about the backlash of strikes from the targeted killings at this point? i am not talking about the initial strikes. >> that is something that we need to be mindful of in terms of reaction, any type of u.s. counter-terrorism activities that involve the dropping of ordnance. whether it is a remotely piloted aircraft or man, we need to take that into account, but i would not agree with those statements because what we have found in many areas is that the people are being held hostage to outcry that in these areas and have welcomed the work that the government has done to rid them of the al qaeda cancer that exists. >> finally today, this committee received the olc memos justification, labo that, many of us who have been on the committee longer than i, have been seeking for some time, and i to have spent a large part of this morning reading them. yet the obama administration within months of taking office released several olc memos describing the legal justification for the treatment of terrorist detainees in u.s. custody. do you think

do you agree with general mcchrystal and director hayden about the backlash of strikes from the targeted killings at this point? i am not talking about the initial strikes. >> that is something that we need to be mindful of in terms of reaction, any type of u.s. counter-terrorism activities that involve the dropping of ordnance. whether it is a remotely piloted aircraft or manned, we need to take that into account, but i would not agree with those statements because what we have found in many areas is that the people are being held hostage in these areas and have welcomed the work that the government has done to rid them of the al qaeda cancer that exists. >> finally today, this committee received the olc memos describing the justification that many of us who have been on the committee longer than i have been seeking for some time, and i to have spent a large part of i to have spent a large part of this morning reading them.

do you agree with general mcchrystal and director hayden about the backlash of strikes from the targeted killings at this point? i am not talking about the initial strikes. >> that is something that we need to be mindful of in terms of reaction, any type of u.s. counter-terrorism activities that involve the dropping of ordnance. whether it is a remotely piloted aircraft or manned, we need to take that into account, but i would not agree with those statements because what we have found in many areas is that the people are being held hostage in these areas and have welcomed the work that the government has done to rid them of the al qaeda cancer that exists. >> finally today, this committee received the olc memos describing the justification that many of us who have been on the committee longer than i have been seeking for some time, and i to have spent a large part of this morning reading them. yet the obama administration within months of taking office released several olc memos describing the legal justification for the treatment of terrorist detainees in u.s. custody. do you think it w

high ground and faced five months of nearly daily attack and slated to be dismantled by general stanley mcchrystalt them vulnerable in the remote parts of afghanistan. and despite a 360 attack, they called in air support and air support killed 30 insurgents and reclaimed a mortar despite a schrapnel wound during the ten hour fight and ran 100 yards under fire to retrieve the bodies of the fallen and remains hard on himself. he lives in north dakota with high school sweetheart tammy and three children and left the army to spend more time with them. and safety manager for an oil construction firm and drives three hour round trip each day to work to remain near his family and remains haunted by what happened in afghanistan and harder on himself than anyone else, and they would follow him to hell and back. they did on october 3rd. 2009. at a remote outpost in afghanist afghanistan. >> megyn: wow, jennifer, thank you. we go live to the white house to meet this incredible man. ♪ >> let us pray, might yy god from whom we come and find peace, hear our prayer. centuries ago written in a spirit to the faith