certainly they should align on north korea. >> let me conclude, general mcmaster, and thank you for the time, by talking about your role in the white house and the white house generally. reset, according to administrator shul couple said there was a reset at the cabinet meeting and general kelly's arrive as changed the nature and tone of the white house? do you agree with that? >> general kelly's arrive means you have an extraordinarily talented leader with a broad array of experience. people see a retired marine corps general and they realize he has an extraordinary record of accomplishment within the military. but he also has a broad range of experience now outside the military as in homeland security where he took over a very complex organization and made tremendous progress advancing the president's agenda and our national interests as the cabinet secretary. also, he's someone who has had extraordinary experience overseas in complex environments which entail operating with people from all departments and agencies, with indigenous leadership, with ally, and he also has a lot of exper

so what does general mcmaster think and what sort of advice is he giving the president? i sat down with him midweek for a wide-ranging interview. later in the program, i'll ask bloomberg's eli lake who mcmaster critics are and why they're so indifferent to the president's views. first the interview, the first two subjects are the crisis in venezuela and the challenges posed by iran, specifically the obama administration's nuclear deal with iran. here is the beginning of that interview. >> your old friend, admiral james stavridis said on wednesday there's going to be a violent civil war, massive refugees and any military intervention in that country would have to come from colombia and/or brazil. do you agree with those three assessments? >> i think his assessment is right. democracy is over right now in venezuela. people ask can there be a coup. there has been a coup. >> reporter:. madura has prevented the venezuelan people with having a say. it's a fab lick for the venezuelan people suffering all kinds of deprivations based on the failed policies of two regimes now. it's

sir, general mcmaster, could you define winning in afghanistan? what does winning in afghanistan look like for the united states? >> so winning in afghanistan is really aimed at allowing afghanistan to began began. as the president -- to be afghanistan. not create a state in the u.s. image. winning in afghanistan means there are not terrorist groups are able to control key parts of territory and population centers there, could be used to mobilize resources, raise funds, use funds to organize, plan, conduct attacks against us and our allies and partners. so that's what the success is. it is really sustainable outcome there, that ensures the safety and security of the american people. and as you know, afghanistan is connected to broader security concerns across the region. so the outcome is to insure that a threat from that region doesn't threaten the safety and security of the american people. >> general mcmaster -- >> last question, right here. >> on tax reform, yesterday, mitch mcconnell said that this would happen during the congress, suggesting

the sense we have is general mcmaster's job is safe but that may be just for now. >>> tonight, an extraordinaryedia campaign coming from the right wing against president trump's national security advisor h.r. mcmaster. conservative media outlets such as breitbart and the daily caller hitting mcmaster over policy disputes. cnn has learned it's almost open warfare between mcmaster and steve bannon, the president's chief strategist and former breitbart executive according to administration officials. all dating back to fired national security advisor mike flynn. >> there is this battle and i think that it does come down to a difference in opinion between mcmaster and bannon and the view i think that mcmaster is clearing out mike flynn, the former security advisor. that is a problem bannon allies see as going directly to the heart of trump's own agenda. >> reporter: mcmaster has fired five top nse officials tied to flynn, causing some fury. mcmaster had been at odds with president trump on some national security issues, such as more trips to afghanistan and have been undercut by bannon. and he has

he said, general mcmaster and i are working very well together. he is a good man and very pro-israel. i am grateful for the work he continues to do serving our country. as you know, fred, mcmaster came under fire this week for two things. one was the dismissal of ezra wasnick the intelligence aide from the national security counsel brought in by michael flynn and everyone found out that mcmaster who wrote the letter to susan rice, barack obama's national security adviser, essentially extending her security clearance so she can weigh in on current national security matters within this administration. however, the white house said this is standard procedure and then mcmasters sent the letter to all former national security advisors. >> caitlin collins in bridgewater, new jersey, to where the president is vacationing, thanks so much. >>> let's talk now about this with cnn political commentator jack kingston, a former republican representative from georgia and former senior adviser to the trump campaign and with us michael nutter, a former democratic m

he said general mcmaster and i are working very well together. s a good man and very pro-israel. i'm grateful for the work he continues to do serving our country. as you know, fred, mcmaster is accused this week of attempting to undermine the president's agenda by those on the far right after he did two things. one was the dismissal of ezra cohen-watnick from the national security council, brought on by the former national security adviser, michael flynn. second, when everyone found out mcmaster had written a letter to susan rice, barack obama's national security adviser essentially extending her security clearance. the white house says mcmaster did this for all former national security advisers so they can weigh in on national security matters that arose when they were in office, but this caused concern among conservatives because as you know, susan rice has been accused of mishandling classified information that pertained to trump associates. for right now, it looks like mcmaster's job is safe. >> thank you so much. we will check back with you.

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trump is saying this, general mcmaster and i are working very well together.

>> yeah. >> i asked general mcmasters, there are rules of engagement. are they trying to provoke that? >> no, they are trying to harass us, probe red lines. i think they are trying to show a resolve they are going to be sort of in our face. they will be a nuisance so long as we are operating in the persian gulf. what the irxc wants to achieve more than anything is for u.s. forces to leave the middle east. they want them out of the persian gulf, out of iraq, out of the arab states. >> you know what vanguard of the imam does is create historical clarity, how enduring it is, how deep it is, how it will not go anywhere? right. >> do you think americans are ready for this sort of? it's a giant conflict of which we are a small part, between the sunni, the israelis and iranian shia? do you think we are up to speed on this? >> i think in some ways we're naive into thinking we can affect it too much. i think the competition between iran and its neighbors an even turkey, to a lesser extent, is a regional competition that is really below our ra dark, i think ameri

you reported that the long knives are out for general mcmaster. iggins. this is just like -- it's an idealogical battle that we're seeing play out in the white house, and it's really unclear. i mean, i think that the nationalist wing has kind of the competitive advantage at the moment just because trump has said in the past that, you know, he kind of finds h.r. mcmaster's strategy annoying in terms of how he does the briefings. he doesn't really like how he talks to him. sometimes he feels like it's a bit condee sending. we'll see how john kelly deals with all of this. his presence in the white house definitely gives mcmaster more of a chance at surviving, but we'll see. >> mr. ambassador, donald trump came out and reiterated his support for general mcmaster. he talked about how valuable he was to the foreign policy team, and most importantly, this past week the president allowed general mcmaster to do something -- or actually allowed john kelly to do something that he had not allowed general mcmaster to do before, and that is get rid of a couple o

is it general mcmaster, and general mattis?ng fa ar mor contact with him over the past week. best guess based on all of your reporting over the past several months, who is talking to donald trump every day on north korea? >> i think all the people you mentioned, obviously general kelly his chief of staff is the central person. my impression has been that secretary of state tillerson is coordinating the diplomacy, the engagement with china. there are extensive conversations going back and forth, not all public, with the chinese, also with the japanese. i would just note one additional thing, joe. this "fire and fury" rhetoric, whatever audience was intended becomes a tasking order for our military. general mattis and others at the pentagon think there are no good military options but when your commander in chief says through h.r. mcmaster, it is intolerable for north korea to acquire nuclear weapons that could strike the united states, in the pentagon you salute and you look at options, even if you think there are no good ones y

mcmaster. generalmeet the press." >> good morning. >> before i get started, i gotta ask about charlottesville and perhaps you have had a chance to talk with the president this morning or last night. why didn't he single out the neo-nazis and white supremacists. >> when he condemned bigotry and hatred on all sides, that includes them. it's clear -- i know it's clear in his mind. it ought to be clear to all americans, we cannot tolerate obviously that bigotry, that hatred, that's rooted in ignorance of what america stands for. >> should we expect to hear from you, from him some of those words? >> i'm sure you will hear from the president more about this. this is important to the president to bring all americans together. he said what we have to be is all of us have to be americans first. that's our common identity as americans. grounded in our commitment to liberty, to human rights, to equal rights and to tolerance. tolerance over this kind of hatred and bigotry. >> what was your reaction? >> it's heartb

. >> general h.r. mcmasterpresident trump's national security adviser, is now seeing his standing question amid arguments with other advisers, the president himself and now some right wing media outlets have begun to attack him. he's going to respond to what some have seen as a campaign against general mcmaster. what does it tell you about the thinking inside the white house? >> it's hard to get inside the mind of the staffers there. one can only judge by the actions, and it seems chaotic, and so i can understand the impulse of president trump to want to bring in military personnel, but we can't make the staff so militarized that we take away the civilian piece because then i think we start creating silos and it becomes too heavy on the military side. but the military has a history as someone who comes from a family of veterans, particularly marines. i understand the discipline and the commitment to protecting information that is involved and military culture. however, you still need civilians who have relation

>> general mcmaster, yes i do. d i respect him. >> it's not a ringing endorsement of the attorney general. what do you make of that? >> well, look, jeff sessions has been the intellectual leader of this movement for a long time. i am happy they are talking. as far as general mcmaster is concerned, there is a real issue here. general mcmaster has been the architect of losing two wars, along with general petraeus, who is a felon. now he's advising the president, trying to get him to send in another 5,000 troops to afghanistan. we have no aumf. i just want to make everybody aware, this president campaigned vigorously getting us out of the middle eastern force. we have no strategy in afghanistan. no one has any idea what the endgame is. petraeus said we ought to stay there in perpetuity. our men and women and our sons and daughters coming home in body bags and without legs and limbs. and there is a lot of people that make a lot of money off of these wars. so i have a real problem with mcmaster. i know there's an idealog

again, general mcmaster said all options will be left on the table. we are not taking any of those things off. that doesn't mean we will focus on the sanctions at this point. >> i want to ask you about -- have they made a decision what they will and? >> the administration has indicated several times before that the dock two taco program is under review. it continues to be under review we will let you know. >> once we have announced on that will let you know. >> a number of charities had been scheduled at mar-a-lago over the week, does that couple with what we discussed, the suspending of the business council, does that make them rethink and reconsider at all his remarks and his reactions and related charlottesville? >> i can't speak to anything or guarding the trump organization, but i can tell you again and i will echo the president's comments and his words and his feelings on the situation is that he condemns this in the strongest form possible. we will continue to do that, continue to look for ways to bring america together. that's the focus of thi

they are reportedly out to ruin general mcmaster's reputation. master's job at the white house in jeopardy? >> reporter: we're getting the sense from the general that at least for now, his job is safe. even by washington political standards, it's an extraordinarily nasty media campaign against a three-star general, combining smear and speculation about the future of h.r. mcmaster as national security adviser. a staffer who worked for george w. bush's national security council says it's unconscionable. >> i think there is an extraordinary amount of backstabbing going on. >> reporter: it's almost open warfare between mcmaster and steve bannon, the president's chief strategist, according to administration officials, all dating back to fired national security adviser mike flynn. >> there is this battle, and i think it does come down to a difference in opinion between mbannon, and the few that mcmaster is clearing out bannonites. >> mcmaster had been at odds with president trump on some national security issues, such as more troops for afghanistan, and

we do not listen to general mcmaster and people like him who have been fighting this war for 15 years and adapt our policies, we're going to fail in afghanistan. need more troops. general nicholson has done a my point of view, but president trump is going to make a decision and he will own it. do not add capability to the fight, it's going to get not better. what you saw in iraq is going to happen in afghanistan tenfold. it's a place now where international terrorism is on the rise. foothold. so three or 4,000 american troops with some air capability will turnave today the tide of battle. every soldier over there is an insurance policy against our being attacked. my big theory is if you don't listen to the generals and you this up as you go as obama and biden did, you're going to wind up losing like we did iraq and the consequences to america are worse. place where 9/11 was planned. more't think of a beneficial outcome to international terrorism than to drive us out of afghanistan because we don't have the will to get it right. i'm sorry it's taken so long. generational struggle. the

i think general mcmaster was playing cleanup, i guess, if you want to call it that. he put the words -- i said, are we going to hear those same words out of his mouth instead of yours, and he said he expect the president to address it again maybe today or tomorrow, and he made another distinction about it. he said it was a terrorists act yesterday, and there's legal definitions of it and he was careful to say, somebody else will decide if it meets the legal definition, but as far as he is concerned that's what took place, and this is going further than what the president went. >> back to you saying the president denouncing the bigotry and hatred, and we know president trump and we know when he wants to condemn somebody. he is very specific about who that somebody is and what condemning them for, and here, yesterday in his remarks people said that lacked that specifics. >> i know he's not afraid to name check. mitch mcconnell knows he's not afraid to name check. the only people he seems to not name check are the white supremacists or vladimir putin, and that makes thi

general mcmaster, steve bannon, is that a relationship that is going to last the week? anybody?t does seem if steve bannon was ever in jeopardy, this would be the time when he would be in the maximum jeopardy. you have stories donald trump is concerned he is a leaker combined with the fact that his wing of the party is in the glare of the spotlight in the colleague lights because of charlottesville. i think it's a question of whether the kelly mcmaster access can get control of this white house, which i think the majority of americans would like for them to do. >> it was an extraordinary moment. obviously, h.m. mcmaster, he knows washington speak, but he used washington speak three times to answer your question no, i cannot work with steve bannon. >> that's an important point. where are we on north korea? where is jim mattis on north korea? we have been asked this question, how serious is this. >> the last thing that jim mattis or the pentagon or the defense or general mcmaster want or america's top military leaders is any kind of military option on north korea. you heard genera

they're considering putting general mcmaster to head the strategy in afghanistan, whether or not you think that would be a good decision? sen. corker: i'll let lindsey speak to the first part. sen. graham: as to the leaking i think it's a disservice to the president that this happened. can you imagine being a president of the united states having a conversation with a foreign leader and that conversation being divulged to the media? it's not fair to president trump. the person who did this may think they have a noble outcome in mind, but that is just chaos. you just can't have people in the government, working for the president, picking and choosing what to leak. that's just wrong and i hope we find out who the person is and they get punished. as to afghanistan, it's up to the president, it's trump's war, it's not obama's war. if we do not listen to general mcmaster and people like him who have been fighting this war for 15 years and adapt our policies, we're going to fail in afghanistan. we need more troops. general nicholson has done a fine job from my point of view, but president

general mcmaster national security adviser to donald trump his loyalty to the president is supposed to be a default quality except now instead it's widely in question mcmaster made a decision to allow susan rice his predecessor in the job and long time obama ally to keep full access to classified information. the national security council will continue to work with you to ensure the appropriate security clearance documentation remains on file to allow you access to classified information. this revelation emerged just weeks after it was revealed that susan rice had been unmasking members of the trump team who happened to be mentioned in classified intelligence reports by default the names are redacted but susan rice had been making sure that the names and the information was readily available to anyone with a clearance to see classified government documents and potentially leak this information to the media susan rice's actions were flagged by as i recall one watt nic a member of the trumpet administration since january apparently his revelation struck the wrong chord with mcmaster who

meet with secretary of state rex tillerson and lieutenant general h.r. mcmaster and nikki haley. before the latest tweet, said to the state run media the u.s. is, quote, driving the situation to the brink to a nuclear war, and, quote, suffer a shameful defeat and final doom. if the u.s., quote, persists in extreme military venture. correspondents from guam, tokyo, and beijing to the pentagon and new jersey where the president is on his working vacation. we're going to begin with cnn's barbara starr at the pentagon. here's what his words locked and loaded meant militarily. >> we are looking at that very carefully and i hope that they are going to fully understand the gravity here of what i said and what i said is what i mean. so hopefully, they'll understand peter, exactly what i said and the meaning of those words. those words are very easy to understand. >> very easy to understand. what do you make of that and what are you hearing from people at the pentagon. >> we'll see if kim jong-un understands what the president is saying. what he's doing, people will tell you, is laying ou

on wednesday, general mcmaster, the nfc adviser, defended nicholson in an interview with hugh hewitt. >> do you have confidence yourself in general nicholson? >> of course. i've known him for many years. i can't imagine a more capable commander in any -- on any mission. >> does secretary mattis, does the president? >> absolutely. >> joining me now is nbc's kristen welker at the white house, national political reporter carol lee who broke that story about the infighting over afghanistan and msnbc military analyst general barry mccaffrey, former four star u.s. army general. thanks to all of you. first, carol, to you. you and your team broke this story and it represents an extraordinary argument, debate really, heated debate in the situation room, from a man who -- when he was running said, i love the generals, but then at some points he said i know more than the generals, i'll have my own generals, and here he -- as president obama in fairness is a new president frustrated over the failure to make progress in afghanistan. >> that's exactly right. it was president obama, going back from

as far as general mcmaster concerned, there is a real issue here.neral mcmaster has lose two wars between patraeus and now he's advising the president, trying to get him to send in another 5,000 troops in afghanistan. i want to make everybody aware, this president campaigned vigorously getting us out of the middle eastern force. we have no strategies and no one has any idea of what the end game is. our men and women and our sons and daughters coming home in body bags. and there is a lot of people that make a lot of money off of these wars. >> so i have a real problem with mcmaster. there is an ideolo ideological is going on. >> go ahead rick. >> i am going to say this bluntly, i have known mcmaster. the white house, you should wake up everyday with a sense of relief that there is a grown up in the white house of this crazy a lot writers who's easing their way into the mechanism. if you don't have a henry mcmaster inside the white house and jim mattis defense. we'll be in a situation where our country is not safe and we'll be in a situation where our

we bring in general h.r. mcmaster, the president's security adviser. joining us this morning. i want to get to north korea in a second. but first, there's been so much fallout to the president's comments yesterday in about charlottesville. including this from richard haas, the chairman of the council on foreign relations who says the u.s. ability to persuade other governments to fight terrorism diminishes when potus fails to call it out, an attack at home. the example we set matters. how do you respond to that criticism? >> the president has been very clear. we cannot tolerate this kind of bigotry and hatred. he called on all americans to take a firm stand against it. this is a great opportunity to ask ourselves, what are we teaching our children? tolerance has to overcome this kind of hatred. this kind of hatred that is grounded really in ignorance. ignorance of our values and what makes us unique. our commitment to each other. to freedom. liberty. tolerance. and rights for all of us. >> well said, sir. he didn't call out the white supremacists respon

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i applaud general mcmaster for calling it as it was, terrorism.tic or international terrorism, whether moral authority of the presidency, you have to call that out. why didn't he do that? alex mentioned one of the reasons he doesn't like doing it. he likes doing the opposite of what the media wants him to do. he is also of the impression there is hatred on all sides. i disagree with him. whether i was the white house communications director or not, i don't think you will change the president. he will do what he wants to do, how he wants to do it. it is important for the people around him to give them direct advice, to be blunt with him. he respects bluntness and candour. i would not have suggested him doing that. general mcmaster was also on the abc programme and defended the president's statement. the president has been clear: we cannot tolerate this kind of bigotry and hatred. he called on all americans to take a firm stand against it. this is a great opportunity for us to ask ourselves, what are we teaching our children? tolerance has to overco

in a statement late friday president trump said and i quote general mcmaster and i have working veryell together. he is a good man and very pro-israel. i am grateful for the work he continues to do serving our country. now, sources told me that mcmaster's own disapproval with the way things were being run was alleviated by general kelly as chief of staff. bret. >> bret: okay, james. thank you. we will follow that authorities in venezuela are looking for antigovernment fighters who attacked an army base over the weekend in an effort to ignite action against president nuclear madiero. the violence has only increased as the administration tries to cut down the opposition. correspondent phil keating has our story. >> the venezuelan so-called rebellion ended in a matter of minutes with two rebels dead. seven arrested. 10 others on the run and government opponents hoping this could be the first fray in the military's unflinching loyalty. [speaking foreign language] were led by the long captain releasing the -- nicholas, a group of 20 rebels launched an attack on a major military base in ve

ambassador, nikki haley and general mcmaster. he was asked about everything from those recent attacks, so to speak on diplomats there in cuba which there was significant hearing loss. also, we saw him make some news as it relates to monday promising a big news conference in washington, d.c. would not get specific in terms of subject matter but said there was going to be some sort of important meeting followed by a big news conference but again the lion's share of that news conference devoted to the topic at hand, the topic of the last few days. president trump, saying hopefully it will all work out. also, said he was being sacramen sarcastic earlier this week when he talked about thanks vladmir putin of russia for expelling those diplomats to save some money on payroll in this country. president trump wrapping up a news conference. we've got kelly o'donnel there and congressman gregory meeks. we'll get to what we might hear from the president on monday but just your general take aways from what we just heard from president trump

i applaud general mcmaster for calling it as white supremacist. or calling it as it was, terrorism. with the presidency you have to call that stuff out. why didn't he do that? alex mentioned one of the reasons he doesn't like doing it. he likes doing it the opposite of what the media wants him to do. he is also the impression there is hatred on all sides. i disagree with him. whether i was the white house can indications director or not, i don't think you will change the president. he will do what he wants to do, when he wants to do it. it is important for the people around him to give them direct —— indirect advice, to be blunt with him, he respects bluntness blunt with him, he respects blu ntness and candour. blunt with him, he respects bluntness and candour. i would not have suggested him doing that. anthony scaramucci speaking in the last hour. in nepal, the number of people killed in the floods and landslides caused by the torrential rain over the past two days, has reached 49. elephants and rafts have been sent to rescue nearly 500 tourists t

my boss is lieutenant general mcmaster but i also know that steve bannon has a lot of influence withand this is the kind of challenge that general kelly has as he's trying to impose some sort of order on the white house and this kind of purge was going to kick up this kind of dust. i think that's again why they let h.r. do this early in kelly's tenure in august so that by september, this all blows over and they can move on. >> yeah. by the way, the president released a statement supporting mcmaster saying general mcmaster and i are working very well together. i'm grateful for the work he copies to do serving our country. not exactly a ringing endorsement but at least it's a statement of support. >> that's a lot more than jeff sessions got. >> when we come back, colin kaepernick is without a job after protesting the national anthem during games last year. is the nfl sending a message? when we give, we receive. ♪ >>> colin kaepernick led the san francisco 49ers to the super bowl in 2013. now four years later, nobody seems to want him on their team. is it because he refused to stand for

there's a report that perhaps general mcmaster and president trump simply don't get along that way thatheir personalities don't jibe. but last night, president trump tried to put an end to the rumors by issuing a vote of confidence, a statement that reads, general mcmaster and i are working very well together. he's a good man and very pro israel. i'm grateful for the work he continues to do serving our country. so, a vote of confidence certainly for general mcmay have. as for today, we've got chief of staff, the new chief of staff, general kelly here in bedminster meeting with the president. as for the rest of the weekend though, we believe it will be a fairly quiet weekend. this is a working vacation, but a vacation no less, leland. so far today, no tweets from the president, though of course, that could change. leland: we will be waiting and watching and bring you back in as the tweets happen. thanks, kristin. elizabeth: for more, let's bring in former fbi director steve pomerantz and inside the investigation. thank you for joining us. in my research for our segment, i looked back on

good man." >> i think it's indicative of the idea that the russians don't particularly like general mcmaster. they may not like his policied, what he is advocating to the administration, or they may be seeking to sew further discord among trump administration officials, feeling that that would weaken the administration. >> all right. let's get a check on your weather now with nbc meteorologist steve salsa. steve, it's a rain yin monday morning in the northeast. people are going to be battling the rain for their commute, and it doesn't look good. >> treat yourself to an extra cup of coffee here this morning. you'll be glad you did so because we have a mess on the way. not too bad as you step out the door right now in new york city and philadelphia, but later on today you see this green shading here. that's a flash flood watch. now, remember, last summer we had a drought going on here. not this summer. grounds are saturated and expecting some heavy rainfall that could cause flash flooding. be extra careful for the evening commute. i think it's the evening commute here tonight. if that wasn't b

crafted with the help and support of people like general kelly, his new chief of staff, and general mcmaster, his national security advisor? >> well look, we know that general kelly has been here basically almost the entire time since president trump arrived for vacation in new jersey. working vacation on friday, he was meeting with him on this opioid crisis along with other aids. they had to know they were going to be asked this question, of course. so you would think that there had been some consultation about what it was he was going to say. having said that, the tone of the language, you know, most presidents try to express firmness, try to express, you know, the idea of resolute response to try to make sure that north korea understands the stakes involved in these types of moments. fire and fury takes it to a next level. the colorful nature of the language, the nature almost suggesting a nuclear holocaust goes beyond what previous presidents have said out loud and really does ratchet up the tensions in a visceral way. >> what are the consequences of talking about fire and fury, either a

said, as general mcmaster we have all actions on the table and were not taking any of those things off. i want to ask you about daca. as the president made a decision about whether to stay or end daca? sec. sanders: the administration has indicated several times before that the daca program is under review. a continues to be under review and when we have an announcement on it we will let you guys know. once he has an announcement on that, we will let you know. >> a number of charities have canceled events scheduled at merrill lago in the wake of the president's charlottesville comments. does that, coupled with the gary: comments we discussed, does that make him rethink and reconsider at all his remarks, his reaction in the wake of charlottesville? sec. sanders: i can't speak to anything regarding the trump organization but i can tell you that again, and i will echo the president's comments, his words and feelings on the situation, is that he condemns this in the strongest form possible trade we will continue to do that and continue to look for ways to bring america together. that's the

bannon and general mcmaster over the way forward there, i think he was clashing with so many folks and then being seen as rising above the president in terms of who the real strategist is and who the decision-maker is that i see general kelly's fingerprints on this. we cannot support the president effectively as one voice moving forward as the u.s. government when we have all of these outliers. >> heather: in terms of general kelly, what do you think this signals for the entire communications department moving forward? >> i think it goes back to what i was saying earlier. in private, we can yell at each other, we can have real disagreements, you can storm out of the room, apparently there was a story going around about general kelly sending two staffers out of the room to hash it out when they were talking about some trade policy with china. but once you present those various options to the president, he makes the decision, that's it. you move forward and you support the president in his views. not only just supporting the president, but that is supporting the country. to have differen

general mattis, general mcmaster and you're not going to find a more experience the afghan hand. i hope the readout says they had a healthy discussion. >> you drive more troops upwards of 100,000. the what's your sense now what might work? >> you have two missions there. you have the counter terrorism issue going after isil, al qaeda which is u.s. dominant. the advice assist and train for afghan security forces. a government which is still struggling, a unity government which is not that unified and pakistan on the other side of the border which continues 0 to provide safe haven. if think and hope as they go through this process they're looking at it from a holistic perspective, not just military. >> all right. thank you soef much. the learn more about that in the coming hours. >>> white house shake-ups leaving americans, well shaken. the president's poll numbers hitting a new low. the. >> including what are his republican supporters saying? also, anthony scaramucci's private play book goes public. the pbig plans he had before he was ousted. tomorrow, big plans to speak publicly