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general petraeus i want to go back to what senator lieberman talked about, relative to meeting the goal of 50,000 troops, in iraq, by the end of august, general odierno odierno has expressed concern about the fact we'll need some, roughly, buffer-zone type troops, make a bct in the northern end because of the iraqi national forces and the kurdish regional forces, issue up there. is that going to be a part of the plan, that you are talking about from a disbursement standpoint, is this going to be additional... >> no, this would be for -- our goal, right now, senator, and we think we're on track to do that, to achieve it. is to reach the 50,000, with possibly, with some rescoping, again, as was mentioned, possibly a 7th brigade headquarters, not necessarily all the brigades elements, don't need all of those. what we need are headquarters. headquarters matter enormously when you are coming down, because, they are the engagement element that is there, and, particularly, in an area where our contributions as honest brokers and so forth, are important. that is seen as, again, an option that w
general petraeus i want to go back to what senator lieberman talked about, relative to meeting the goal of 50,000 troops, in iraq, by the end of august, general odierno odierno has expressed concern about the fact we'll need some, roughly, buffer-zone type troops, make a bct in the northern end because of the iraqi national forces and the kurdish regional forces, issue up there. is that going to be a part of the plan, that you are talking about from a disbursement standpoint, is this going to...
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with regard to the training of the afghan military and police, general petraeus, your second tour, i guess, in iraq was to come back and train that. you spent, i guess, a year or so training a force -- and i'm sure you developed some ideas about how that all to be done. it seems to me that of if you've got a local defense force that's willing to defend their community against taliban or al-qaeda, perfect training -- if it's going to delay dramatically the ability of those people to be effective is a danger. and i recall the al anbar model where we quickly got sunni tribal leaders to empower their local young men to turn on al-qaeda. that was effective. i guess, my question is, i see there's some tension in the -- the state department or other people within the military about how -- how trained in kabul or in -- i'm talking in theory here -- how much tfaining by the central government before they can be allowed to defend their home territories. and with a little salary and support of a good tribal leader or mayor or community leader, much good can be done. where are we? are we demandi
with regard to the training of the afghan military and police, general petraeus, your second tour, i guess, in iraq was to come back and train that. you spent, i guess, a year or so training a force -- and i'm sure you developed some ideas about how that all to be done. it seems to me that of if you've got a local defense force that's willing to defend their community against taliban or al-qaeda, perfect training -- if it's going to delay dramatically the ability of those people to be effective...
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last question, general petraeus. hugh indicated in the past and i think very reluctantly, that gitmo, the jail, is counterproductive to the war effort and if possible, should be closed. could you tell me why you believe that? >> it rightly or wrongly and probably wrongly, because i think that that facility, and many of you have have developsisted it, actually has conducted in an appropriate manner, but at the very least, it has a symbol attached to it, that is one that is used in our area of responsibility, against us. it in some cases is even lumped in to abu ghraib. completely different case, there's no reason to do it, but again, it has become april conic in certain -- iconic in certain respects. >> and one last very simple question. isn't it true that some of hour heals renews to turn prisoners over to us, if they believe they could work their way to gitmo? >> sir, i do not know the answer to that question. >> you've never had an ally tell you that we can't turn a prisoner hover to the americans if they're going
last question, general petraeus. hugh indicated in the past and i think very reluctantly, that gitmo, the jail, is counterproductive to the war effort and if possible, should be closed. could you tell me why you believe that? >> it rightly or wrongly and probably wrongly, because i think that that facility, and many of you have have developsisted it, actually has conducted in an appropriate manner, but at the very least, it has a symbol attached to it, that is one that is used in our area...
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a great genius as he shows throat of general petraeus or the vision of general petraeus down the one ars. whether or not general mcchrystal is going to be a lot to do that in the coalition fight and able to do general rodriguez to the same purpose with u.s. troops i think it's very much up in the air. so if i could just eat this up again for afghanistan. and with respect to lessons learned. i think that there've been some significant lessons that have been learned in iraq and that linda have time i've written quite well on paschal and operational lessons. the strategic and political lessons i don't think we've learned nearly as much as we needed to. i don't think that we've done a lot of hard searching.about how exactly you apply leverage when operating, you know, when in doubt to a counterinsurgency campaign is the third rd. and as far as her should she get culture of the u.s. military, i think it's very much remains to be seen whether or not the cultural changes that have taken place in d.c. and the junior officers in iraq and afghanistan are enduring or fleeting. and afghanistan an
a great genius as he shows throat of general petraeus or the vision of general petraeus down the one ars. whether or not general mcchrystal is going to be a lot to do that in the coalition fight and able to do general rodriguez to the same purpose with u.s. troops i think it's very much up in the air. so if i could just eat this up again for afghanistan. and with respect to lessons learned. i think that there've been some significant lessons that have been learned in iraq and that linda have...
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the other point is general petraeus has said the fact that there's no israeli and palestinian agreemente, two states, means that it makes it more difficult for the united states in some of its relations with its arab neighbors >> i totally reject the notion that somehow our strategies and behavior kind of threaten american youngsters in the region. >> rose: you obviously read what general petraeus said. >> i don't know what exactly happened. i don't want to relate it to general petraeus but i reject the notion that somehow these are the policies and attitudes and as i mentioned, we are the party who wants to enter into direct negotiations or to put an end to it. that we somehow indirectly with americans... >> but you don't reject the ideas that the iranians use it everyday and support... they support hamas and hezbollah in part because of it. >> iranians are trying to work against us and against you. it's a vision of ahmadinejad expressed just a week ago in damascus to see a middle east free of zionists. that's not the point. the point i would make is not that america is hated because i
the other point is general petraeus has said the fact that there's no israeli and palestinian agreemente, two states, means that it makes it more difficult for the united states in some of its relations with its arab neighbors >> i totally reject the notion that somehow our strategies and behavior kind of threaten american youngsters in the region. >> rose: you obviously read what general petraeus said. >> i don't know what exactly happened. i don't want to relate it to...
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we do not want to overstretch as general petraeus said. we move, and we want t.we've cleared an area, we want to hold an area. we want to consolidate opposition. build area. restore the confidence of the people, and then move on. >> rose: how do you measure india's interest in afghanistan? >> they have relations. obviously, their interests cannot be the same as ours because we share a border. they do not share a border. we have been impacted. they have not been impacted to that extent because even today, we have three million refugees living in pakistan. afghanistan is a land-locked country. the bulk of their trade is carried through pakistan. practically our economies are one. culturally, linguistically ethnically, there are commonalities, which afghanistan shares more with pakistan than india. >> rose: drone strikes on the afghan-pakistan border, including north wazirstan, are seriously disrupting al qaeda. that from the american c.i.a. director. how do you see it? what is your appriseal of al qaeda's disruption? >> he's correct. they've seriously disrupted the
we do not want to overstretch as general petraeus said. we move, and we want t.we've cleared an area, we want to hold an area. we want to consolidate opposition. build area. restore the confidence of the people, and then move on. >> rose: how do you measure india's interest in afghanistan? >> they have relations. obviously, their interests cannot be the same as ours because we share a border. they do not share a border. we have been impacted. they have not been impacted to that...
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that too. >> thank you, general petraeus, for that continuing effort in oversight. it's very important to this committee. i want to especially thank senator mccaskill for her special efforts in this regard. they're very, very important to the citizenry of our country. senator brown? >> thank you, mr. chairman. i want to first thank you for your warm welcome and i appreciate your recognition of my service. and just to correct the record a little bit, generals and admiral, i started out as an enlisted man and was qualified as an infantry officer at ft. benning and now i'm a quarter master and i have some knowledge that i don't think an average torn knows being a jag. one of the things senator gramm was commenting on because when i hear from the guardsmen serving throughout massachusetts they are confused how they treat folks how they're captured. i also want to kind of go along the same vein, what rights are they given and do we send them to afghanistan? do we keep them where they're captured? do we bring them to u.s. soil? do we get them to gitmo? i know i'm new here
that too. >> thank you, general petraeus, for that continuing effort in oversight. it's very important to this committee. i want to especially thank senator mccaskill for her special efforts in this regard. they're very, very important to the citizenry of our country. senator brown? >> thank you, mr. chairman. i want to first thank you for your warm welcome and i appreciate your recognition of my service. and just to correct the record a little bit, generals and admiral, i started...
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. >> thank you, general petraeus.ry a six-minute round of questions given the large turnout this morning. general petraeus, iran's actions and lack of willingness to comply with u.n. regulations regarding their nuclear program, continues to undermine security in the region i believe that while stronger sanctions against iran are not only essential, but it is critically important that they be enforced. the president has rightly kept a military option to take against nuclear facilities in iran on the table, should they be used for production of nuclear weapons in violation of u.n. resolutions. i also believe that the possibility of a blockade or quarantine of iran's oil exports and refined petroleum product imports should also be on a list of possible options for action. can you comment on what actions you think might be successful in terms of sanctions against iran should they continue to violate u.n. resolutions relative to the nuclear program, but also as to whether we should keep those other options on the table? >>
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de-baathification as well as iraqi and specifically in talking abut general iraqi shiite attitudes towards general petraeusand general odierno. it's not politics in washington to criticize general petraeus but iraqi shia both clergy and politicians were talking about general petraeus as being naive when it came to the baath and he could be antagonistic to the shia. we do have to recognize this especially with of the recognition that we in many ways are becoming actors in iraq and people are naturally reacting against us but also this idea the baath could be in power to pave the way for a smooth u.s. withdraw seems to be gaining residents in southern iraq whether that's the act quality of what is going on or not i don't know but the fact of the matter is we have to deal with the perception. a few problems as i conclude i am worried about election fraud we can talk about this during questions and answers. i'm worried about people gaming the system by purposely awaiting specific ballot boxes if they feel they are not going to win the district they could try to cheat in the district. there is less faith in the
de-baathification as well as iraqi and specifically in talking abut general iraqi shiite attitudes towards general petraeusand general odierno. it's not politics in washington to criticize general petraeus but iraqi shia both clergy and politicians were talking about general petraeus as being naive when it came to the baath and he could be antagonistic to the shia. we do have to recognize this especially with of the recognition that we in many ways are becoming actors in iraq and people are...
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host: he is the author of a couple of books, including this one, "the gamble, general petraeus and the american military adventures in iraq." petraeus and the american military in iraq." what will turn out be like? guest: that is what the questions. host: south carolina. democratic line. caller: my question goes to the ability of al qaeda and enemies in iraq and afghanistan to employees such difficult challenges, and which ways we might deal with debt situation with the enemy. very few people are making comments or suggestions as to how we better engage our situation in afghanistan and iraq. i would like to see more recommendations as to what could be done. one thing i would recommend specifically would be to employ bomb-sniffing, ied-sniffing dogs en masse in each country to eradicate, eliminate the threat of ied's. i don't see that going on. weapons are good and necessary, but you've got to deal with the ied's. also, second and final question is, what difference would you recommend, mr. ricks -- i agree with you as different people on what you have said coming for the war and what no
host: he is the author of a couple of books, including this one, "the gamble, general petraeus and the american military adventures in iraq." petraeus and the american military in iraq." what will turn out be like? guest: that is what the questions. host: south carolina. democratic line. caller: my question goes to the ability of al qaeda and enemies in iraq and afghanistan to employees such difficult challenges, and which ways we might deal with debt situation with the enemy....
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we just saw general petraeus. a little bit unusual i think public airing from a military leader to kind of tie the lack of progress, i think he said, it has an enormous effect is the quote on the larger region. what is he saying? what's he getting at? >> he's said what everybody who has served in the u.s. military or served in iraq or afghanistan has noted. which is that everybody in afghanistan, everybody in iraq, everybody in any area that the united states is operating in actually cares about palestinians as much as americans care about israelis. we don't have to say it's right or wrong. we care about israelis for a host of historical and religious reasons. and they do as well. the problem is, of course, that every time there's a conflict between the palestinians and the israelis, it has spillover effect. it has spillover effects everywhere. it's not a pan see a. solving the arab-israeli conflict won't make all of our problems go away in the middle east. it increases our leverage and political capital to addres
we just saw general petraeus. a little bit unusual i think public airing from a military leader to kind of tie the lack of progress, i think he said, it has an enormous effect is the quote on the larger region. what is he saying? what's he getting at? >> he's said what everybody who has served in the u.s. military or served in iraq or afghanistan has noted. which is that everybody in afghanistan, everybody in iraq, everybody in any area that the united states is operating in actually...
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as general petraeus has warned, and i quote, i was in kandahar, it was in kandahar that the 9/11 attacks were planned. it was in the training camps in eastern afghanistan where the initial preparation of the attackers was carried out before they went to hamburg and flight schools in the u.s. it is important to recall the seriousness of the mission and why it is that we are in afghanistan in the first place and why we are still there after years and years of hard work and sacrifice that have passed, end quote. one of the principled reasons we have been spared the repeat of those attacks is that u.s. forces quickly toppled the taliban regime that was protecting the terrorists and drove it and its al qaeda allies out of their safety zone and into the remote mountains. years of constant u.s. military pressure have forced them to turn their attention from planning more attacks against our homeland to fighting for their own survival. to leave afghanistan now would pave the way for the re-establishment of a vast and secure base from which al qaeda and other deadly enemies could strike americans
as general petraeus has warned, and i quote, i was in kandahar, it was in kandahar that the 9/11 attacks were planned. it was in the training camps in eastern afghanistan where the initial preparation of the attackers was carried out before they went to hamburg and flight schools in the u.s. it is important to recall the seriousness of the mission and why it is that we are in afghanistan in the first place and why we are still there after years and years of hard work and sacrifice that have...
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general david petraeus announced the change today at a u.s.earing. in january, we asked general petraeus about the policy, and why so many soldiers were saying it was not working. he told us it was a personal concern of his, and this is what he told senator lindsey graham today at the committee hearing -- >> the secretary of defense has approved, in a sense, a u.s. caveat, if you will, that goes along with our transitioning of authority of u.s. forces to nato control, and it includes up to 14 days for interrogation, for analysis, and then in some cases, for those who need longer detention, that is also available as well. >> well, i want to thank you for leading that charge, because i think our war fighters will appreciate that, particularly the marines down south. and has that been well received by the force? >> it has, sir. and, again, as you know, if you want to live your values, you have to set conditions in which our troopers can do just that. >> well, thank you. thank you, yes. i'm glad you've been given some relief, because the old rule
general david petraeus announced the change today at a u.s.earing. in january, we asked general petraeus about the policy, and why so many soldiers were saying it was not working. he told us it was a personal concern of his, and this is what he told senator lindsey graham today at the committee hearing -- >> the secretary of defense has approved, in a sense, a u.s. caveat, if you will, that goes along with our transitioning of authority of u.s. forces to nato control, and it includes up...
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do have a take on that general petraeus? to whether or not the military takes a look at their contractors and whether or not we do business with the wrong people. >> i honestly don't i don't know what it takes to get somebody on the blacklist that they cannot compete for a contract and what the process is and why for example, we have done something and iran is not on that list. my apologies. >> maybe that is the reason iran does not take as seriously as they should because we talk about the character and the stick but i don't think frankly we have used to the stick very effectively with a lot on our books talking about the size of the military i had a chance to talk after i got back from afghanistan but to put this on the record, mr. chairman, the size of the army beer building so if you are over there the afghans say they wanted 400,000 we are at the 300,000 there is no indication we will have an army above 300,000 but even if we keep it, a general caldwell briefed me that will be somewhere around 5.5 billion dollars. to su
do have a take on that general petraeus? to whether or not the military takes a look at their contractors and whether or not we do business with the wrong people. >> i honestly don't i don't know what it takes to get somebody on the blacklist that they cannot compete for a contract and what the process is and why for example, we have done something and iran is not on that list. my apologies. >> maybe that is the reason iran does not take as seriously as they should because we talk...
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afghanistan led by major general bob livingston i know we must trust our military leaders, led by general petraeus and general mcchrystal. these leaders will fight for victory to protect american families by defeating terrorists overseas. even liberal "newsweek," highlights the surge in the march 8 edition with the subtile "all signs point america's way." though the taliban is entrenched in the province, its grip is slipping in the rest of afghanistan. this undercuts the common believe that america is doom to fail. the military situation and politics all favor obama's counterinsurgency strategy. if the taliban can't gain populous support it can't win. in conclusion, god bless our troops and we will never forget september 11 and the global war on terrorism. the speaker pro tempore: for what purpose does the gentlewoman from new york seek recognition? ms. slaughter: mr. speaker, i ask unanimous consent to address the house for one minute and to revise and extend. thank you. the speaker pro tempore: without objection, the gentlewoman from new york is recognized for one minute. ms. slaughter: mr. spea
afghanistan led by major general bob livingston i know we must trust our military leaders, led by general petraeus and general mcchrystal. these leaders will fight for victory to protect american families by defeating terrorists overseas. even liberal "newsweek," highlights the surge in the march 8 edition with the subtile "all signs point america's way." though the taliban is entrenched in the province, its grip is slipping in the rest of afghanistan. this undercuts the...
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general petraeus has already admitted that al qaeda has literally no presence in afghanistan. we have to be careful about branding al qaeda and taliban as a single terrorist movement. al qaeda is an international organization and, yes, they're a threat to the united states. taliban is only a threat to us as long as we continue a military occupation of afghanistan. i reserve the balance of my time. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman's time has expired. does the gentlewoman from florida wish to be recognized? who seeks recognition? mr. berman: could i ask the gentlelady how much time we have remaining on each side? the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from ohio has four minutes remaining, the gentleman from california has three minutes remaining and the gentlewoman from florida has 30 secretaries remaining. -- seconds remaining. who seeks recognition? mr. kucinich: i will. i yield to the gentlelady from california, congresswoman barbara lee, two minutes. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlewoman from florida is recognized for two minutes. ms. lee: thank you very much, madam
general petraeus has already admitted that al qaeda has literally no presence in afghanistan. we have to be careful about branding al qaeda and taliban as a single terrorist movement. al qaeda is an international organization and, yes, they're a threat to the united states. taliban is only a threat to us as long as we continue a military occupation of afghanistan. i reserve the balance of my time. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman's time has expired. does the gentlewoman from florida wish...
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down or a division of general petraeus on thus notes of the one start. whether or not general mcchrystal can do that in a collision fight and be able to use general rodriguez to the same purpose with u.s. troops i think is very much of error. so if i can to keep this up again for afghanistan and with respect to the lessons learned i think there's been some significant lessons learned in iraq and with linda and tom have written quite well on the tactical and operational lessons. the strategic and political lessons i don't think we have learned nearly as much as we needed to. i don't think that we have done a lot of hard searching and fought about how to apply the leverage when operating when conducting counterinsurgency campaign as a third party and then as far as our strategic culture, the culture of the u.s. military i think it remains to be seen whether or not the cultural changes that have taken place and that you see in the junior officers in iraq and afghanistan are in during or fleeting and afghanistan in a lot of ways is going to be a test case for
down or a division of general petraeus on thus notes of the one start. whether or not general mcchrystal can do that in a collision fight and be able to use general rodriguez to the same purpose with u.s. troops i think is very much of error. so if i can to keep this up again for afghanistan and with respect to the lessons learned i think there's been some significant lessons learned in iraq and with linda and tom have written quite well on the tactical and operational lessons. the strategic...
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clash will die down temporarily, but it's going to come back because general petraeus and the pentagoncerned about the united states being perceived as israel's poodle. >> quickly, eleanor. >> once health care passes and if the congress keeps performing and passes a series of jobs bills, president obama's approval rating in the next several weeks will surpass the 50% mark and that will help his party in the fall. >>> luck with that. the federal reserve left rates unchanged this week, but i predict they will start raising rates in the third quarter by a quarter point. >> good idea? >> yes. >> arianna? >> i predict senator ted cough mn will emerge as a major leader in the senate challenging chris dodd over the details of his bill and looking for something really substantive. >> mm-hmm. president obama will choose solicitor general elena kagan to replace a supreme court justice john paul stevens. remember, you can friend us on facebook and follow us on twitter. bye-bye. the miracle of high-speed internet is changing our lives in ways we never thought possible. helping us to connect, and l
clash will die down temporarily, but it's going to come back because general petraeus and the pentagoncerned about the united states being perceived as israel's poodle. >> quickly, eleanor. >> once health care passes and if the congress keeps performing and passes a series of jobs bills, president obama's approval rating in the next several weeks will surpass the 50% mark and that will help his party in the fall. >>> luck with that. the federal reserve left rates unchanged...
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adopt, and, certainly, after the insurgency, the sunni insurgency came about was one whereas general petraeus said we had to build support from the people themselves, and that was really the next stage that had to happen. >> just again, going back to this earlier period, we were joint occupying powers. as a senior member of the government, were you comfortable with the fact we had taken on this position as joint occupying powers when we were going to find it very difficult to be -- play the same sort of role because we didn't have the resources, the americans would be able to put into it. >> i did visit iraq, myself, on two occasions when i was chancellor, to look at what was happening on the ground, but my visits were mainly, i did go to baghdad, but i was also interested in how we could develop the area of basra and so my concerns, after the initial work and debt relief, on the question of the currency, my concerns were, could we construct an economic e plan for basra that would allow the people to see the benefits of prosperity flowing from the absence or reduction of violence, and i think
adopt, and, certainly, after the insurgency, the sunni insurgency came about was one whereas general petraeus said we had to build support from the people themselves, and that was really the next stage that had to happen. >> just again, going back to this earlier period, we were joint occupying powers. as a senior member of the government, were you comfortable with the fact we had taken on this position as joint occupying powers when we were going to find it very difficult to be -- play...
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i also want to mention what general petraeus has said. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman's time has expired. ms. ros-lehtinen: i yield an additional 30 seconds to mr. dent. mr. dent: and our very fine commander david petraeus, i melt with him in florida he said, quote, on january 5, it was in canned ha -- canned harr that 9/11 attacks were planned, it is important to recall the seriousness of the mission and why it is that we are in afghanistan in the first place and why we are still there after years and years of hard work and sacrifice have passed. again, i strongly urge we defeat this resolution. we owe it to our troops who are watching this debate as we speak. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from ohio is recognized. mr. kucinich: i'm pleased to recognize the gentleman from georgia, mr. lewis for three minutes. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from georgia, mr. lewis, is recognized. for three minutes. mr. lewis: madam speaker, i want to thank my friend and colleague from ohio for bringing this resolution before us tod
i also want to mention what general petraeus has said. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman's time has expired. ms. ros-lehtinen: i yield an additional 30 seconds to mr. dent. mr. dent: and our very fine commander david petraeus, i melt with him in florida he said, quote, on january 5, it was in canned ha -- canned harr that 9/11 attacks were planned, it is important to recall the seriousness of the mission and why it is that we are in afghanistan in the first place and why we are still there...
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general petraeus said, we got to show that we are in this. that we are going to provide sustained substantial commitment. make no mistake about it, mr. speaker, the troops and their families are watching this debate today to see what we shall do here in congress. they are looking for who will support them and who will not. we must defeat this resolution and the taliban and the al qaeda and support our military. last saturday, march 6, was the anniversary, the 174th anniversary of a battle at the alamo where those people walked across that line rather than give in to the enemy and they -- the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from texas. mr. poe: i thank the lady. they were led by a 27-year-old individual from south carolina by way of alabama. he said at the alamo, i shall never surrender or retreat. and they did not surrender or retreat because war was hard then. and it cost them all their lives. but victory was attained later. and freedom was obtained. war is hard. it is always hard. and we shall not give in. we shall not you surrender or r
general petraeus said, we got to show that we are in this. that we are going to provide sustained substantial commitment. make no mistake about it, mr. speaker, the troops and their families are watching this debate today to see what we shall do here in congress. they are looking for who will support them and who will not. we must defeat this resolution and the taliban and the al qaeda and support our military. last saturday, march 6, was the anniversary, the 174th anniversary of a battle at...
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and we should remember, madam speaker, that even general petraeus said we should never forget that afghanistan has been known as the graveyard of empires. our constitution does not give us the power or the right to run another country. and that's what we've been doing. it should have come as no surprise, madam speaker, that president karzai of afghanistan told abs recently that the -- abc news recently that the u.s. needs to stay there 10 or 20 years. he needs our money and he wants to stay in power. but listen to what columnist george will has said. he has changed his position and written about afghanistan that the budget will not support an expansion there, the military, quote, will be hard pressed to execute it and america's patience will not be commensurate with afghanistan's limitless demands. this will not end well. those were not my words. those are the words of george will. a very small but very powerful neoconservatives who are not conservative at all have almost controlled u.s. foreign policy for years. they are supported by very large u.s. companies who benefit from war and the bill
and we should remember, madam speaker, that even general petraeus said we should never forget that afghanistan has been known as the graveyard of empires. our constitution does not give us the power or the right to run another country. and that's what we've been doing. it should have come as no surprise, madam speaker, that president karzai of afghanistan told abs recently that the -- abc news recently that the u.s. needs to stay there 10 or 20 years. he needs our money and he wants to stay in...
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and if you don't believe that you can listen to general petraeus who said a year ago that al qaeda isn't in afghanistan anymore. i have more good news about iraq. the news is we won. we won the war in iraq years and years ago facing the fourth largest army in the entire world. we swept through iraq and we got the sdamsdam out. we won and now -- saddam hussein out. we won and now we can go home. we should have left a long time ago. what's happening in afghanistan and iraq is not a war. it's a foreign occupation. you can read the constitution from beginning to end and you find nothing in the constitution that permits a foreign occupation, much less one that goes on for almost a decade. with you simply can't afford these wars anymore, both in the price of money and in the price of blood. i'd like to call your attention to a report in "the new england journal of medicine" dated january 31, 2008. this report says that 15% of all the troops that serve in iraq return with permanent brain damage. that's right, permanent brain damage. here's some of the symptoms described. a loss of consciousness
and if you don't believe that you can listen to general petraeus who said a year ago that al qaeda isn't in afghanistan anymore. i have more good news about iraq. the news is we won. we won the war in iraq years and years ago facing the fourth largest army in the entire world. we swept through iraq and we got the sdamsdam out. we won and now -- saddam hussein out. we won and now we can go home. we should have left a long time ago. what's happening in afghanistan and iraq is not a war. it's a...
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de-baathification as well as iraqi and specifically in talking abut general iraqi shiite attitudes towards general petraeus and general odierno. it's not politics in washington to criticize general petraeus but iraqi shia both clergy and politicians were talking about general petraeus as being naive when it came to the baath and he could be antagonistic to the shia. we do have to recognize this especially with of the recognition that we in many ways are becoming actors in iraq and people are naturally reacting against us but also this idea the baath could be in power to pave the way for a smooth u.s. withdraw seems to be gaining residents in southern iraq whether that's the act quality of what is going on or not i don't know but the fact of the matter is we have to deal with the perception. a few problems as i conclude i am worried about election fraud we can talk about this during questions and answers. i'm worried about people gaming the system by purposely awaiting specific ballot boxes if they feel they are not going to win the district they could try to cheat in the district. there is less faith in th
de-baathification as well as iraqi and specifically in talking abut general iraqi shiite attitudes towards general petraeus and general odierno. it's not politics in washington to criticize general petraeus but iraqi shia both clergy and politicians were talking about general petraeus as being naive when it came to the baath and he could be antagonistic to the shia. we do have to recognize this especially with of the recognition that we in many ways are becoming actors in iraq and people are...
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general petraeus said, we got to show that we are in this. that we are going to provide sustained substantial commitment. make no mistake about it, mr. speaker, the troops and their families are watching this debate today to see what we shall do here in congress. they are looking for who will support them and who will not. we must defeat this resolution and the taliban and the al qaeda and support our military. last saturday, march 6, was the anniversary, the 174th anniversary of a battle at the alamo where those people walked across that line rather than give in to the enemy and they -- the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from texas. mr. poe: i thank the lady. they were led by a 27-year-old individual from south carolina by way of alabama. he said at the alamo, i shall never surrender or retreat. and they did not surrender or retreat because war was hard then. and it cost them all their lives. but victory was attained later. and freedom was obtained. war is hard. it is always hard. and we shall not give in. we shall not you surrender or r
general petraeus said, we got to show that we are in this. that we are going to provide sustained substantial commitment. make no mistake about it, mr. speaker, the troops and their families are watching this debate today to see what we shall do here in congress. they are looking for who will support them and who will not. we must defeat this resolution and the taliban and the al qaeda and support our military. last saturday, march 6, was the anniversary, the 174th anniversary of a battle at...
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i asked them something yesterday, they didn't have an answer that i asked general petraeus this morning, didn't have an answer. and it's this. do we own any road in afghanistan's be? do we own 20 clobbers? to we own 5 kilometers? do we say we have persistent coverage of any road at all, any certain amount when we have isr, whether it is man or unmanned, watching that road? . .@ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ n extreme peril of operating. especially in the east and the extreme falloffs on either side. twice as large country from iraq. >> but less road than iraq? less asrs, less msrs. only one quart of the ring road got it covered? >> obviously less paved road. i couldn't give you a answer how much we control day-to-day, sir. >> thank you, mr. chair. >> the chair recognizes the gentlewoman from maryland, miss tsongas. >> massachusetts. >> massachusetts my apologize. >> i know general fuller is from massachusetts as well and we're proud of it. first i'd like to thank all of our witnesses for being here. i appreciate all the time and effort you've not only put into this hearing but that you put
i asked them something yesterday, they didn't have an answer that i asked general petraeus this morning, didn't have an answer. and it's this. do we own any road in afghanistan's be? do we own 20 clobbers? to we own 5 kilometers? do we say we have persistent coverage of any road at all, any certain amount when we have isr, whether it is man or unmanned, watching that road? . .@ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ n extreme peril of operating. especially in the east and the extreme falloffs on either...
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a fact that has now also been confirmed, i understand, by general petraeus.come the second largest insurgent group in afghanistan today has its main bases across the border in iran. these diverse groups with their differing goals of strategies share a common characteristic. they are trained and equipped above all for warfare fought from within the civilian population. in conflicts in lebanon, iraq, and in towns and villages in southern afghanistan, the civilian population come are routinely exploited in deliberate and fragrant violation of international laws and reasonable norms of civilized behavior. and in gaza last year, during operation cast led, civilians became a strategic weapon in the hands of hamas, were deliberately putting their own people's lives on the line, those people that they proclaimed they were in place to protect. they use the noncombat and population of gaza as human shields, relying on the israeli military's adherence to international law and its own moral codes to protect them from harm. hamas, of course, deployed suicide attackers, in
a fact that has now also been confirmed, i understand, by general petraeus.come the second largest insurgent group in afghanistan today has its main bases across the border in iran. these diverse groups with their differing goals of strategies share a common characteristic. they are trained and equipped above all for warfare fought from within the civilian population. in conflicts in lebanon, iraq, and in towns and villages in southern afghanistan, the civilian population come are routinely...
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more recently, a general petraeus made a counter banning statement in which he said we have plans for everything and we can carry out those plans. that i think is a much more sensible message to be sending to the ayatollah. third, syria and lebanon a subject very close to our hearts, and the book is not 100% clear to me on the outside there is a great deal of continuity but it is not meant to be a heartwarming remark because the bush and administration policy became too soft or was too soft on syria and i think the obama administration policy is as well. to put a different way this syrians have been pursuing a policy of repression, at home, interfering in iraq and within the last six months in general odierno saying passing to jihadis through into iraq and the are being of hezbollah and the keeping of the palestinian headquarters in damascus and after that killing the united states imposed a certain additional sanctions on and syria and we removed our ambassador but since then there has just been no price that syria has paid for continuing these policies. the israeli government is con
more recently, a general petraeus made a counter banning statement in which he said we have plans for everything and we can carry out those plans. that i think is a much more sensible message to be sending to the ayatollah. third, syria and lebanon a subject very close to our hearts, and the book is not 100% clear to me on the outside there is a great deal of continuity but it is not meant to be a heartwarming remark because the bush and administration policy became too soft or was too soft on...
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now, more recently general petraeus, most recently general petraeus made a kind of countervailing statement in which, cent come commander, in which he said, you know, we have plans for everything, and we can carry out those plans, too, when it comes to iran. that is a much more sensible message to be sending to the ayatollahs. third, syria and lebanon, a subject very close to jeff's heart as it is to lee's and to mine. the policy is not 100% clear to me, again, sitting on the outside. there is, i think, a great dual of continuity here. it isn't necessarily, that's not meant to be a heart warming remark because i think bush administration policy became too soft or was too soft on syria, and i think obama administration policy is as well. to put it a different way, the syrians have been pursuing for years now a policy of repression , vicious repression at home, interfering in iraq and we have within the last six months general odierno reminding us that interference continues, the alliance with iran and the arms of hezbollah, the keeping of the palestinian terrorist group headquarters in damas
now, more recently general petraeus, most recently general petraeus made a kind of countervailing statement in which, cent come commander, in which he said, you know, we have plans for everything, and we can carry out those plans, too, when it comes to iran. that is a much more sensible message to be sending to the ayatollahs. third, syria and lebanon, a subject very close to jeff's heart as it is to lee's and to mine. the policy is not 100% clear to me, again, sitting on the outside. there is,...
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behind-the-scenes, petraeus and crocker worked intensively with malaki. the general an able general, but he doesn't have that political intuition and maeuverability. he's not as ad event in that world of maneuvering. i think we have suffered at a critical time. ultimately, it is the iraqis who have to come around to brokering these deals, and maybe they will get to a painful period that may involve some return to war. i was a little concerned to the new u.n. envoy where he is saying let's let the iraqis sort it out. there are some deep clevages and traditionally war-ending scenarios have involved some kind of mediation and envoy. so i think some group of friends -- you know, i think the diplomatic measures need to be taken to help through what is a true iraqi process r i think we can get there, but we need to rely on people. i find it ironic that in one of the greatest statesmen of iraq is a kurd. here's a man that is willing to reach outside very heavy sectarian pressures within his parties, both kurdish parties, frankly, and be willing to relinquish some of the kur
behind-the-scenes, petraeus and crocker worked intensively with malaki. the general an able general, but he doesn't have that political intuition and maeuverability. he's not as ad event in that world of maneuvering. i think we have suffered at a critical time. ultimately, it is the iraqis who have to come around to brokering these deals, and maybe they will get to a painful period that may involve some return to war. i was a little concerned to the new u.n. envoy where he is saying let's let...
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this is what general petraeus learned when -- from the work he did in 2006 and 2007, that you have to have economic projects that allow people to feel they have a stake in the future, and you have to get the security and armed forces of iraq in such a way that they can be responsible for security, and that involves non-corrupt police. we have applied this in bo asara. we have learned a lesson there that are applicable to afghanistan and other countries. this new world has to have some international organization that is responsible not just for peacekeeping and not just humanitarian aid, but for stabilization and reconstruction. >> you can onlit would only offp where there is consensus, cooperation. >> the united nations was prepared to come =iin, in the end. the united nations mission led to a tragedy in baghdad and there was with a drawl that mission. the world bank mission personnel, imf had to be withdrawn. we had treasury people there working in very difficult circumstances, bravely organizing the new currency of iraq, organizing the new financial budgeting system of iraq from an
this is what general petraeus learned when -- from the work he did in 2006 and 2007, that you have to have economic projects that allow people to feel they have a stake in the future, and you have to get the security and armed forces of iraq in such a way that they can be responsible for security, and that involves non-corrupt police. we have applied this in bo asara. we have learned a lesson there that are applicable to afghanistan and other countries. this new world has to have some...
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. >> general david petraeus testified and he said that so-called 96 hour rule has now all of sun andays to 14 days, maybe even longer. >> right. >> that's how long u.s. military personnel can detain suspected insurgents or terrorists without letting them go. i know you worked hard to get that change and you were pleased. >> oh, man. let me tell you, i don't want to violate etiquette here and give you a compliment, but cnn reporting on the 96 hour rule was the best in the business. and this is a good day for service members and their families and the afghan people. the 96 hour rule was a disaster t became a camp and release program it wasn't enough time to gather evidence and determine if the insurgent was truly dangerous. this two-week period is better for the troops on the ground and protects the afghan people and can be longer if necessary. cnn's reporting did a good job exposinging how how bad the 96 hour rule was. >> abby woodrow did an outstanding job with that investigation. that one soldier who got gaut a general discharge because he had only four day, 96 hours and had to take
. >> general david petraeus testified and he said that so-called 96 hour rule has now all of sun andays to 14 days, maybe even longer. >> right. >> that's how long u.s. military personnel can detain suspected insurgents or terrorists without letting them go. i know you worked hard to get that change and you were pleased. >> oh, man. let me tell you, i don't want to violate etiquette here and give you a compliment, but cnn reporting on the 96 hour rule was the best in the...
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the first one is after your assessment is going of general petraeus, i would like to ask tom this first come if you think his activity is spread too thin and should he have state or should he go back if finish one job before he starts the second? at my second job is to into. and this deals with the veterans coming home. now, i wanted to know what priorty you think is given to these young men and women coming back to the united states when they come back with a positive attitude about our endeavors there. because i am a retired teacher, and we see a lot of the veterans in north carolina by web bob matthew, and we see a lot of these young men and women and we talked to the. we asked them what they think. this is what we talked about yesterday about the national debate on overdoing. is what i think it starts with these young men and women coming back to their communities, their churches, their civic groups and high schools, coming in to what they think. we do something novel. we actually listen to these men and women come and see what they think. so my question is, guys, and man, is a prio
the first one is after your assessment is going of general petraeus, i would like to ask tom this first come if you think his activity is spread too thin and should he have state or should he go back if finish one job before he starts the second? at my second job is to into. and this deals with the veterans coming home. now, i wanted to know what priorty you think is given to these young men and women coming back to the united states when they come back with a positive attitude about our...
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general petraeus had started that.ave petraeus would go around and say, you know, we can do the military piece, security piece. if nobody else else is improving the lives of the iraqi people, if we're not turning this around and demonstrating hope and he took it upon himself to change it. creating things that i believe along with the surge of the troops that get all attention, maybe more importantly begin to turn things around.Ñt that ability to see outside your normal paradigm or your normal box that you operate in. and that kind of creative thinking, that kind of open-mindedness, i think is extremely valuable and where you see the exception to the rule today especially in industries and in places where the norm is failure or mediocrity. the other part is how decisions are made. you know, we now work on training leaders how to make decisions. how to take that analytical process and to work it into the ability to arrive at the right decision. to find the problem. get it done. there are three kinds of decision-makers i
general petraeus had started that.ave petraeus would go around and say, you know, we can do the military piece, security piece. if nobody else else is improving the lives of the iraqi people, if we're not turning this around and demonstrating hope and he took it upon himself to change it. creating things that i believe along with the surge of the troops that get all attention, maybe more importantly begin to turn things around.Ñt that ability to see outside your normal paradigm or your normal...
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this offensive is what general david petraeus, the commander of the united states central command, has described as the initial salvo in a 12 to 18-month campaign to defeat the taliban. now, i have had and i continue to have, mr. speaker, disagreements with policies of president obama, but i have said privately and i said publicly and i reiterate here today that in the case of afghanistan president obama has demonstrated great responsibility and a sense of the national security interest of the united states. he deserves our support. just as our military is making tangible progress like the offensive demonstrates, just as this is occurring, many of our colleagues in the majority party now feel that it is time to withdraw from afghanistan. the resolution we are set to debate today would require the president to withdraw our troops in 30 days. i believe that that would be precipitous. i believe that precipitously withdrawing our troops would be reckless. i believe it would allow the taliban to regain control of afghanistan and thereby provide criminal groups such as al qaeda with carte bl
this offensive is what general david petraeus, the commander of the united states central command, has described as the initial salvo in a 12 to 18-month campaign to defeat the taliban. now, i have had and i continue to have, mr. speaker, disagreements with policies of president obama, but i have said privately and i said publicly and i reiterate here today that in the case of afghanistan president obama has demonstrated great responsibility and a sense of the national security interest of the...
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the first one is after your assessment this morning at general petraeus, i'd like to ask thomas first if you think his activity is spread too thin and should he have stayed or should he go back and finish one job before he starts a second one. my second question is to injure and this deals with the veterans coming home. now, i want to know what priority you think is given to these young men and women coming back to the united states with a comeback with a positive attitude about our endeavors there because i'm a retired teacher and we see a lot of the veterans in north carolina. by the way, i'm bob matthew for bridge back. you would see a lot of these young men and women and we ask them what they think. this is what we talked yesterday about a national debate on what we're doing. this is where i think it starts with these young men and women coming back to their communities, churches, civic groups in high school is coming and telling what they think and we do something novel, we actually listen to these men and women and see what they think. so my question is guys and man, is a priori
the first one is after your assessment this morning at general petraeus, i'd like to ask thomas first if you think his activity is spread too thin and should he have stayed or should he go back and finish one job before he starts a second one. my second question is to injure and this deals with the veterans coming home. now, i want to know what priority you think is given to these young men and women coming back to the united states with a comeback with a positive attitude about our endeavors...
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as daniel mentioned, general petraeus made clear yesterday before the senate armed service committeeing a just peace for the palestinians, that american lives in iraq and afghanistan are going to continue to be threatened by radicals who capitalize on america's perception of a double standards when dealing with the israeli palestinianish j ipales. this is not the first time the american principal gets embarrassed, it's something that has happened on a fairly regular basis. 20 years ago james baker said when returning from a similar trip, every time i go to israel, i'm greeted with the announcement of another new settlement. and so if over 20 years we've been unable to change this behavior, we now have an opportunity to change our policy towards israel to force them to change their calculations on settlements. >> do you see this as a potential -- i don't want to say breakthrough -- but opening to pursue middle east peace talks? >> i think the administration is starting to come to the realization that current israeli government and israeli governments prior to this have not been on the
as daniel mentioned, general petraeus made clear yesterday before the senate armed service committeeing a just peace for the palestinians, that american lives in iraq and afghanistan are going to continue to be threatened by radicals who capitalize on america's perception of a double standards when dealing with the israeli palestinianish j ipales. this is not the first time the american principal gets embarrassed, it's something that has happened on a fairly regular basis. 20 years ago james...
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this is what general petraeus learned when -- from the work he did in 2006 and 2007, that you have to have economic projects that allow people to feel they have a stake in the future, and you have to get the security and armed forces of iraq in such a way that they can be responsible for security, and that involves non-corrupt police. we have applied this in bo asara. we have learned a lesson there that are applicable to afghanistan and other countries. this new world has to have some international organization that is responsible not just for peacekeeping and not just humanitarian aid, but for stabilization and reconstruction. >> you can onlit would only offp where there is consensus, cooperation. >> the united nations was prepared to come =iin, in the end. the united nations mission led to a tragedy in baghdad and there was with a drawl that mission. the world bank mission personnel, imf had to be withdrawn. we had treasury people there working in very difficult circumstances, bravely organizing the new currency of iraq, organizing the new financial budgeting system of iraq from an
this is what general petraeus learned when -- from the work he did in 2006 and 2007, that you have to have economic projects that allow people to feel they have a stake in the future, and you have to get the security and armed forces of iraq in such a way that they can be responsible for security, and that involves non-corrupt police. we have applied this in bo asara. we have learned a lesson there that are applicable to afghanistan and other countries. this new world has to have some...
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general petraeus has called it the most important authority.would urge you to fully fund the program contained in the department's budget request. having said that, i understand there are some concerns on this committee about the way the program has been used recently. the department is currently performing in internal investment -- assessment, including certification -- consideration of a single department corridor, additional managers, and contract personnel in theater. increased pre mobilization and infantry training. execution -- it is fun -- it is unrealistic to expect that the program -to attain a zero-defect standard. in conclusion, i would like to thank the committee for your support of the men and women in the military who respond to national disasters and protect our interests around the world. i know their health, safety, and welfare will be your top priority in making these difficult decisions in the weeks ahead. >> i thank you very much, mr. secretary, madam secretary. i will submit questions. i would like to ask one. recently, the
general petraeus has called it the most important authority.would urge you to fully fund the program contained in the department's budget request. having said that, i understand there are some concerns on this committee about the way the program has been used recently. the department is currently performing in internal investment -- assessment, including certification -- consideration of a single department corridor, additional managers, and contract personnel in theater. increased pre...
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general petraeus and i have spent a lot of time on this and it comes up on every trip. but we are just going to continue to work this issue through. talked to ambassador haqqani about it yesterday and again this morning, and we're working on it very much. but i do want to stress are in at billion dollars of csf went to pakistan last week. >> today in pakistan, active scanning security forces declared an important victory in bajaur tribal area. this is just on the border of afghanistan and al qaeda. >> i'm having trouble understanding you. >> today in pakistan there was an important development. the pakistani security forces have declared victory against taliban and al qaeda linked militants in bajaur tribal agency, which is on the border of afghanistan. and was used to stage attacks on nato. >> i know. i've been to bajaur. >> what is your reaction to the overall struggle against it? >> i'm delighted they feel they're making progress. when i first met to bajaur, it was a very bad scene. we flew over, we couldn't land. we had to divert and land in the agency. the fact the
general petraeus and i have spent a lot of time on this and it comes up on every trip. but we are just going to continue to work this issue through. talked to ambassador haqqani about it yesterday and again this morning, and we're working on it very much. but i do want to stress are in at billion dollars of csf went to pakistan last week. >> today in pakistan, active scanning security forces declared an important victory in bajaur tribal area. this is just on the border of afghanistan and...
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. >> general petraeus says this hurtful to the troops. >> and this is a weak link in obama's popularityf there is a rift with israel. but 70% of the jewish population in the united states even believes that both sides should be pressured into a deal. and so we are seeing some real shifts here in american jewish opinion as well, wanting and believing it's in israel's strategic interest to compromise and have a west jerusalem, which is huge, and the holy city, and then at the same time preserve the east jerusalem arab neighborhoods for future palestinian state. >> and if you find that here in the united states and yet benjamin netanyahu seems to not be able to control what is going on there with his own people, what do you see happening? it's funny because we talk about what is going on in the middle east and this is years and years and years in the making. is there a real chance for peace? >> i've worked at this for 27 years and i can say that systematically the governments really need more people to people relations in order for it to be constituency on both sides for a nonviolent compr
. >> general petraeus says this hurtful to the troops. >> and this is a weak link in obama's popularityf there is a rift with israel. but 70% of the jewish population in the united states even believes that both sides should be pressured into a deal. and so we are seeing some real shifts here in american jewish opinion as well, wanting and believing it's in israel's strategic interest to compromise and have a west jerusalem, which is huge, and the holy city, and then at the same...
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>> chairman, might use very much correspond with that general petraeus. it is very appropriate that we do a very deliberate understanding. >> they give very much. >> mr. chairman, obviously we have all served with people of that sexual orientation and they have served honorably, that is not a question. but we must understand the implications of repeal before we make a decision. would that be an accurate reflection? >> it would be. >> i agree. >> so, a moratorium would be a defect will feel -- would be an appeal of the policy before we have under to the implications -- understood the implications for the men and women of the military. i understand your views and appreciate them. for congress to take action for a thorough review of the policy, not of whether to repeal the policy, this would be the best way to proceed? would you agree? >> to be clear, it is my view that we should have a moratorium there was confusion in the process. >> unfortunately their efforts to impose a moratorium tantamount to appeal. describe for me terms about what americans can unde
>> chairman, might use very much correspond with that general petraeus. it is very appropriate that we do a very deliberate understanding. >> they give very much. >> mr. chairman, obviously we have all served with people of that sexual orientation and they have served honorably, that is not a question. but we must understand the implications of repeal before we make a decision. would that be an accurate reflection? >> it would be. >> i agree. >> so, a...