once, for genesis, and once as a solo artist. the "new yorker" wrote of you, his travel during his five-decade career is so great that it can be hard to reconcile the progressive rock front-man of the '70s with the multi-cultural, multi-media human rights activist who came later. do you have any trouble reconciling this? >> no. anyone -- compliment. >> it's a wonderful thing. i have had fantastic opportunities, and i have always been smarter to surround myself with people that are smarter than i am. smart enough, sorry, i should say and i always say to people, there are people that i know who are better and more able than i am in any one of the areas that i am involved in. it has not deterred me. it has not stopped me. you. >> that's what i would say to young people because, you know, it's very ambitious or arrogant to assume that you can get away with all of this stuff. but i think if your heart is in the right place and you are following what you love, things fall into place. >> what would stop people is running out of money. >

once, for genesis, and once as a solo artist. the "new yorker" wrote of you, his travel during his five-decade career is so great that it can be hard to reconcile the progressive rock front-man of the '70s with the multi-cultural, multi-media human rights activist who came later. do you have any trouble reconciling this? >> no. anyone -- compliment. >> it's a wonderful thing. i have had fantastic opportunities, and i have always been smarter to surround myself with people that are smarter than i am. smart enough, sorry, i should say and i always say to people, there are people that i know who are better and more able than i am in any one of the areas that i am involved in. it has not deterred me. it has not stopped me. you. >> that's what i would say to young people because, you know, it's very ambitious or arrogant to assume that you can get away with all of this stuff. but i think if your heart is in the right place and you are following what you love, things fall into place. >> what would stop people is running out of money. >

it is like looking at the big bang theory and saying the universe started by light, just like genesis no, it doesn't work that way. it's like looking at the origin of the universe as a possible quantum fluctuation of the gravity field. there is no need for god to stir the universe any more just like i said. in both cases, you wind up with an argument proving the assumption that you made. in the fluctuations of gravity and and whatever started the universe therefore there is no god. all that proves is that god must be gravity, which of course explains why catholic celebrates mass. [laughter] [applause] more to the point do you remember the game mouse trap where you have all of the pieces and you end up with. and the ball comes down. that idea is saying that though it is one of the players in the game that starts the ball rolling. believers -- onto the universe. good you baptize could be heard in a couple of different ways and emphasis. is et somebody that you want to baptize and it could be heard as what you baptize as like who are you to decide who gets in and who stays out. the early

si yo amo a carolina y a genesis tienen que respetar mi amor por esas personas.a a desgastarse, deteriorarse. porque mi estilo siempre fue reservado. no fui hombre de escandalo, me alejÉ. otro estilo era mÁs explosivo. ♪ ♪ ♪ >> cuando hablas de tu hija mÁs pequeÑa genesis la describes como el mÁs grande regalo que has recibido en la vida. >> sinceramente sÍ. es un regalo de dios. genesis es un espÍritu muy avanzado. la gente cree que yo le doy consejo a ella. no, yo le pido consejos. ella me aconseja a mÍ. >> le ha ido bastante bien. la vimos en pelÍculas, un papel maravilloso. quÉ se siente como papÁ verla. >> son muchos no. de repente hace un sÍ. tienes el papel, pero no la edad. tienes el papel, pero no el tipo. son audiciones semanales, dos o tres. yo la admiro mucho. naciÓ para eso. >> claro que sÍ. >> naciÓ para la actuaciÓn. >> si pudieras hoy dar marcha atrÁs quÉ harÍas diferente? como pareja, cÓmo papÁ ♪ ♪ ♪ >> no se mueva porque hay mucho mÁs de esta entrevista impactante. mÁs adelante responde a esa pregunta. aclara por quÉ no grabÓ una novela y serÁ c

the first lesson of genesis is cold and hard. humans, sustaining life on this earth is not meant to be easy. >> we have to go out into that cold, suffering world where we labor by the sweat of our brows and give forth our children in pain and have to suffer and die. >> and we christians believe that this is why jesus came, to solve that problem. to pay the penalty for sin. >> but maybe, when eve made the choice that christians call original sin, it was something more, maybe it was the first act of original thought. >> adam and eve, free will? >> absolutely free will. that's a story of you can make a choice. that's the most horrible thing that faces a human being. you have to choose. >> on our journey, we met believers who say the bible is the literal truth straight from the mouth of god. do you think that it happened? and we met others, even those of faith who believe these are stories and passed down through the generations. what brought you to rally? a record of a people's struggle with the world, and their place in it. >> so h

[laughter] so the answer is in genesis. and this other guy contacted me through my agent several times over the course of a year, and it was the result of iowa's on big think. somebody must have. anyway, i was tired and i had gotten up at 5 a.m. new york time and i just -- they asked me about creationism and i said knock yourself out that we don't want to have our kids raised to believe that the earth is six or 7000-years-old. it had 7 million views or something. so they contacted me and we agreed even giuliani sentence is creationism a viable model of something. [laughter] in the modern era. and i thought that it would be like a college kid. [laughter] it would be fine. but it's gone crazy. and so i guess i still am working on a book about climate change and the other kennedys and sustainability and this or that and my publisher said you've got to do it about evolution. so the first week in march i started on this. >> host: that's fast for for a book. >> i hope all of you buy a carton. >> they make wonderful gifts. you are

she gave birth to her second son this weekend and her son's name genesis ali dean.is photo on instagram announcing the joyous occasion for baby number two. so all is good. nice holidays where they have like the two -- you know, once you have the second whole new ball game whole new world. >> you realize you can't take care of the second one as well as you did for the first one and you feel bad for the second one. >> kid two always getting the shaft, without a doubt. >> genesis, that's all right. >> not too bad. i like that. >> uncommon. >> but not crazy out there. >> not apple. >> exactly. >> poor apple. >> i'm frances rivera. this is "early today." we hope it is your first stop of the day on nbc. ♪ ah, push it. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ push it. ♪ ♪ p...push it real good! ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ow! ♪ ♪ oooh baby baby...baby baby. ♪ if you're salt-n-pepa, you tell people to push it. ♪ push it real good. ♪ it's what you do. ♪ ah. push it. ♪ if you want to save fifteen percent or more on car insurance you switch to geico. it's what you do. ♪ ah. push it. ♪ i'm pushing. i'm pushing it real good! what

the genesis of this is really a bank examiner who was at the fed in 2011 and 2012. she was fired after about seven months on the job. but before she was fired, she secretly recorded hours -- approximately 46 hours of meetings of her on the job with her colleagues and at the bank that she was supervising which happened to be goldman sachs. we got access to those recordings and have written some stories based on them. >> woodruff: and how does the fedex plain it? as we -- and how does the fed explain it? they seemed to go soft on goldman sachs, is that a fair interpretation? and how does the fedex plain it? >> well, it's interesting. it's not our interpretation. in 2009, the fed brought in an outside consultant to do a top-to-bottom review of their supervisory practices involving big banks and the outside consultant found the new york fed was too deferential of the banks it was supervising and there was a climate of fear. he basically said the culture of the new york fed was the biggest obstacle to completing its mission. so we sort of viewed that as a baseline to the

genesis ali dean was born at 15:00 to second in the morning. they have a four year-old son together. >>> first boy that child will read is the book of genesis. >>> new jersey state police on security detail at eagles/giants game in east rutherford, new jersey. >> this is kind of cute. for two troopers it was the game they and their families will never forget. fox 29's brad satan a has play by play of what happened to them on the field. >> reporter: this time it was lot like many others across the delaware valley on eagles sunday. fans glued to their tv's watching the action at met life stadium, the everette family certainly was. >> what do you think? >> started to cry. >> reporter: it brought a tear to the eyes of joan everette and smiles every where else. >> that is really great. >> reporter: it wasn't what happened during the game it what is happened moments before it and it was not shown on tv but it was captured on cell phone video. >> very nice very nice. >> is it on right now. >> yes. >> recording. >> feeling good. >> there it is. >> repo

also something that you'll see hopefully there brings you made very some kind of proposal in the genesis of that. so, it's coming is my long answer to a short question. >> anything else or future agenda items, and cne. any public comment? she should just quickly think of are heading out this legislation. legislation to proposal life is administered idled members where there's also pending legislation in development i think kim moses office is working on a heritage on a proposal as well so that if there are businesses that are 30 years or older -- the only point during reserving that up is that those two things can work hand in hand with each other. there may be some ways we can look at some of the older music venues that may have issues around sound mitigation and see those two things could work a little bit connected. that would be nice. >> great idea yes a public comment on future agenda items? seeing none this meeting is now adjourned. thank you all for coming night.

. >> can you tell me about the genesis of the company. >> we actually started with the darpa grant. we were working at u.c. berkeley and spun the technology out of there. the main emphasis of the technology was to help soldiers. >> two weeks after i started working on the project, my brother, who was a navy s.e.a.l., had an injury that broke his neck. that planted the seed for spinal cord injury and what exo could do to help that population. that coupled with doctors seeing the technology, seeing what we were doing, they kept coming to us and asking us, can you guys help make him walk again? >> there any way that i can actually test out the technology? >> so we always start with a walker. it gives us the most stability. >> okay. we're the first thing going to have to do is stand up. the robot's going to do all of your legs.r you for so your knees and your hips are going to be taken care of. two, three. whoa. wow, that's such a weird sensation. it feels like it weighs nothing. >> exactly. exo goes ight of the down and around the side of your body and on the ground. so you don't feel

keels announced the arrival of her son genesis with a picture on inis it instagram. it's the second child for keys and her husband. their first son egypt is 4 years old. >> if you're looking for a little distraction this afternoon check out these stories at 6abc.com. this bull mastiff scrooge is not happy to be hearing christmas carrolls in this video. step aside it shows trampolines are made for grown ups. one got a little too up close and personal with a angaroo who he was punched from the sky. >> reporter: it's a little cold out there david. >> reporter: we have mid 40s. 43 in consults town. 45 -- kutztown 45 in downingtown. i-95 47 in philadelphia. 46 in parts of south jersey, 47 in central south jersey. and down the shore 48s. and sea isle city, surf city, cape may. winds running 8 to 16 miles per hour. a little bit of a breeze, but not too bad. >> these are a look at the stories coming up on "action news" at 4:00. we have the latest on a high-ranking church official involved in a deadly crash. a bishop was behind the wheel when she hit a cyclist and left the sc

the first trailer for terminator genesis has been released. in it we see arnold schwarzenegger reprise his classic role in the film. it hits theaters in july of next year. >>> it looks like sherlock star benedict cumberbatch is going to the big screen. he'll take on the role of dr. strange, the newest superhero in the marvel universe. it is expected to hit theaters in 2016. >>> mark wahlberg is asking for a pardon for an assault conviction from when he was 16. the incident involved him trying to rob a man and spent 45 days in jail. he's hoping for his criminal record to be erased after he dedicated himself to becoming a better person. >>> jon stewart has some interesting information for angelina jolie last night. >> if you ended up with me, instead of brad pitt, we could have been stoli. we could have been a vodka brand. >> i'm dara brown. this is "early today." we hope it is just your first stop of the day on nbc. >>> leading the news from az central, phoenix police suspect unarmed when killed by officer. an officer thought the suspect was re

not only a reaction to simple microbes, but the idea that these microbes, that there is a second genesis, might indicate that intelligent life might be more likely. if you find life on two planets or two objects in the solar means that life develops easily and they will probably find them beyond our own solar system. they are finding thousands of planets beyond our own solar system. that is another reason that we are looking at this problem now because it seems more and more likely that there will be life found out there. >> did you arrive with a set of questions that you wanted to answer? >> i did arrive with a general set of questions about what the impact might be, but of course your research is guided as you learn more things. the questions that are raised here are really foundational. for example, if we find extraterrestrial intelligence, you have the question, lots of philosophical questions, like the question of objective knowledge. is our knowledge objective? is how we see the universe the same as how extraterrestrials would see the universe? most scientists would say yes, but ph

. >>> one brewery in new york got festive for the holiday with beer, the genesis brewery made a treegs, it stands 23 feet tall and is decorated with led lights, it took employees three weeks to build the keg tree. there is much more on tap on our next half hour of "action news" at noon, an f in spelling, the principal of a north jersey school came under fire for a big mistake that took weeks to fix. consumer reports tells you which toys will get your little one up and moving. all tickets♪ ♪6 match 6 chances ♪5 cash 5s ♪4 big 4s ♪3 daily numbers ♪2 mega millions (joe) happy holidays, rita. (rita) thanks, joe! (man) what a great gift! (announcer) pennsylvania lottery tickets make great gifts, like the new $1 million peppermint payout. (joe) happy holidays! ♪and best wishes from the lottery♪ >>> "action news" at 12:30 continues with rick williams, sara bloomquist and meteorologist, david murphy. >>> hello again, here are story we are following at 12:30, the holiday rush is about to begin, people will battle cold and a rush. australia is dealing with another horribletragedy. after eight

we see it in genesis. i'm not going to take time to tell the whole story, but surely you'll realize that when god promised abraham and sara that they would have a child and the child wasn't coming, child wasn't coming, child wasn't coming, they're getting tired of waiting, sara gets a bright idea. ladies, have you ever had a bright idea? okay, well, i was very good at bright ideas. and they come something like this. you're going along, you're like, "i know what god wants me to do." your husband's not saved, so you think--or maybe you're married to somebody that's got a bad attitude. you've already decided you're going to buy those five books on attitude and you're going to open those dudes up and lay them everywhere you can in the house because now you have a plan on how you can get his attitude fixed. how many of you know nothing works unless it originates with god? listen, he is the author and the finisher. and he told me a long time ago, "i am not obligated to finish anything i didn't start." if you sta

like jacob, book of genesis wakes up by the side of the road, after this dream and says god was in thislace the whole time. i just wasn't aware of it. this awareness that we are -- that god is already present. >> yeah. to your point now that god's present, what does the book have to say about this biblical edict that god is a spirit and that those who worship him worship him in spirit and in truth? >> yeah, yeah. what's interesting, the modern age, we had this explosion for the past 300 years of enlightenment scientific thinking. that which you can access with five sends. can you test it with -- sends. can you test it in a lab? can you prove it? most of the thing that guide our lives can't be accessed with the five senses. you hold your first kid. you fall in love. try explaining that according to data or merit. it's the thing that's are most real to us. we can never -- things that are most real to us we can never prove according to standard of modern science. in the modern world it gave us hospitals and 10,000 songs in our pockets and airport. but the problem is for many it didn't give

(applause) in genesis chapter fifteen, god told the israelites that he was taking them into a foreign land. they would be mistreated and suffer hardships. he was saying, "there will be negative stepping stones, going in the wrong direction. you'll be tempted to think it will never work out." but god gave them the promise, "you'll go through difficulties but afterwards you will come out with great abundance." friends, there will always be an afterwards. every person goes through unfair situations, uncomfortable times. we don't like it but it's a part of god's plan. if you will keep passing the test, doing the right thing when the wrong thing is happening, afterwards you will come out promoted, increased, stronger, healthier, happier, blessed, with great abundance. now, don't get discouraged by the problem. it's all a part of the process that god uses to bring about the promise. god is not just going to bring you out, he's going to bring you out better. he is directing your steps. he is still in control of your life. nothing that has happened to you is a surprise to god. he allowed that

. >> answers in genesis which is behind the project say the about face by state leaders smacked of religiousimination. >> if it's going to be a religious themed park or religious project just like a church they have the right to hire people mo have their same persuasion and same set of beliefs otherwise they can't maintain their identity in who they are. >> they are filing a federal lawsuit against kentucky and launching a billboard campaign to rally support for religious freedom including a video billboard in times square over the holidays. leaders say the a encounter project will go on even without the state tax credit and it is expected to open in the summer of 2016. heather and ainsley? >> thank you. >>> rain and snow to start the weekend. maria molina has been tracking it all for us. >> i want to remind you all the official start of winter is coming. the calendar marking winter is already here. interior portions including portions and pennsylvania new york, also northeastern ohio. out there the concern really is we have freezing drizzle early this mother-in-law. ice will be a concern on

she announced the arriving of her son named genesis. it is her second child for keys and her husband. i've smoked a lot and quit a lot but ended up nowhere. now...i use this. the nicoderm cq patch with unique extended release technology helps prevent the urge to smoke all day. i want this time to be my last time. that's why i choose nicoderm cq. ♪ ♪ ♪ hershey's spreads. bring the delicious taste of hershey's chocolate to anything - everything. with hershey's spreads, the possibilities are delicious. >> top stories at 6:54, a police officer who was responding to a call in franklin township gloucester county new jersey struck and killed a 10-year-old boy. the child was crossing delsea drive. the department is investigating and offered condolences to the boy's family. >>> a resident of a bucks county apartment complex shot a man twice who was trying to break into the unit. the intruder is in critical condition and faces charge. >>> search and rescue crews spotted two oily spots in the java sea but not sure if it is coming from the missing

genesis ali. and there you go. there are the footprints. at the hospital. the universal baby thing. >> their baby had a birthday. some other celebrity birthdays. >> legendary mary tyler moore is 78. >> jon voight turning 76. >> america's favorite bartender from "cheers," ted danson, 67. >> jude law, 42 years old. >> happy birthday day, everybody. >>> a little gorilla is still searching for a loving family after she just didn't click with the gorilla clan at one zoo. the mission to help her, it got a little interesting. >> why the other gorillas didn't like her is tough to comprehend for us humans but it's a great reminder of the power we have to help animals. >> it was three months of baby gorilla boot camp. a team of 17 hairy vested trainers gorillafying baby camina, rejected by her birth mother. teaching her tummy time. stretch, eat and even, yes, talk like a gorilla. all to prepare for adoption by a real gorilla surrogate at the cincinnati zoo. sharing 98% of our human genes. the reflex test on the foot. the recoil from a cold stethoscop

the book of genesis, describes the creation of the world as being good and then the formation of man and woman from, interestingly enough, the dust of earth, into which he breathed the breath of life, and doesn't that account for the human reality? i mean, think about that. of the earth.dust but there is something in each of us that transcends the physical. verses could quote bible or theologians on this, but just reflect on yourself, just reflect on your grandchild, just reflect on human beings. we have the capacity to transcend or physicality, don't we? when we love, we transcend our physicality. you give yourself away to the beloved, and what happens? you are not diminished. you are enriched. in our creativity, we see this, whether it is in art, or in music, or in business, because it requires an understanding and respect for the physical world and all of the confines that sets up for us. we live in a world of scarcity, but somehow we can produce more than we consume. what is that in a human person? our reason, our minds. that is what sets us apart from , somee rest of creation of

the book of genesis described how god formed every east of the field. in the book of isaiah too heavy a burden was placed on cattle when they were asked to carry idols. in the book of daniel there are four terrifying beasts. and in the book of revelation the beast was a leading figure. the beast was well known to colonial and revolutionary ministers. for earlier massachusetts church leader cotton mather and the humanity of slaves, and not their beastly nestsbeastiliness was in them -- beastlyness was an embattled point. christianizing slaves will render them afraid of speaking or doing anything that may justly displease you. he's writing to masters. masters will have more work done for them, and better done, then those inhumane masters who have used their negroes worst than their horses. the question of whether negroes have rational souls mather exploded, let that brutish insinuation never be whispered again. they are men and not beasts. beastlyness, inhumanity, brutish ness are characteristics of slaveholders behaving badly, not essences of the enslave

and i believe the genesis goes back to some very harsh twisted anti-male theorys that came from genderdies, as well as some phony statistics. false statistics. we're all told 1 in 5 women will be raped or sexually assaulted. those usually don't come from reliable sources. >> that's fueled the climate? >> it's fueling false statistics. we have gender propaganda. sexual violation -- sex a sassa is a real problem. because it's real, we need sensible policies. that means good research and good data. we don't have it. we have a culture of panic, hysteria. i don't know where it's going to end. i hope this opens eyes. it's a teachable moment. we'll see. >> journalism 101, you got to get both sides of the story. obviously they failed miserably on this one. thank you so much for joining us. appreciate your insights. >>> up next, nasa's triumphant return to space travel. former astronaut clay anderson tells us what his hopes are for orion. huh, fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more on car insurance. everybody knows that. well, did you know genies can be really literal? no. what

say the hyundai genesis and they surprise people because they come with features that more expensive cars that do carry luxury badge have. for that reason sometimes the lesser-priced car does carry owner satisfaction. surprise and delight as it were. gerri: you want to be in the magic space, right? you get the most for your money but don't have to pay too much. mark, thanks for coming on the show tonight. it was great to see you. >> thanks, gerri. gerri: we have news coming out moments ago about gas prices. guess what? they will keep falling. isn't that good news? according to the energy department which slashed its prediction fornext year's average price. 2.$60 a gallon, 20% below the projected average this year and the lowest since 2009. that could mean savings of consumers of $100 billion. $100 billion over the course of next year. the average price for a gallon of gas is 2.66 cents, down 60 cents from just last year. >>> we have more to come this hour including your voice. your voice is important to us. that's why during the show we want you to facebook me or tweet me @gerriwilli

that was the genesis of the conspiracy.mage to seward and secretary of state and booth got lincoln. >> the president then became -- was it johnson? >> johnson. >> and regarded not well as a president. >> because one of the things in the book that's fascinating is at the second inaugural address johnson spoke first before lincoln. he was blasted, he was drunk. >> this man had a drinking problem. >> lincoln's going oh -- absolutely true. we weren't exactly you know, well served by andrew johnson. >> now, seemed like every time you're on, every couple of months, you have a new book. now, bill, it's just that time goes so fast. >> one a year. >> are you actually writing these books or are people writing them. >> no, no, no i write the books. you know that. i write all the copy for the factor. >> okay. >> i write the books you know that. >> they always come out at number one on "the new york times." >> that's a fix. we got that fixed. it's this show, letterman. you know that. >> do you ever do your show drunk? >> all the time. i

and that guy was so loyal from then on, he went on to sign the rolling stones for us, he signed genesis for us, he signed boy george. >> they can't all be -- >> sometimes i do think that everybody deserves a second chance on occasions, and i think a company that, you know, if you run your company like a family, you don't throw your children out on the street -- >> no, your workers are rabidly loyal, there is very little turnover. obviously you practice what you preach. but you must have a tough guy, a woman, who is the tough cop? or do you? >> i hope we don't -- for instance, if somebody is not performing well, rather than sacking them, we will try to find them a different job where they may perform well. >> within the conglomerate? >> yeah. obviously, if it's too much, they will be let go, but it doesn't happen too often. >> i think your daughter conveyed something to you about netflix or something like that? >> she just said, particularly in america, america hardly gives its people days off, and she just said it's wrong that the vacation time is so short. so we thought we would experi

we are seeing the genesis of a revolutionary movement that is not connected to a core group. those guys, have a good time. i don't know how you do. >> phil, i appreciate you being on. jonathan and chris as well. a short time ago, i spoke with clover moore about what is a tough and tragic day in her city. in terms of the hostages, how are they doing? i know there were injuries. law enforcement were injured. how are they now? >> well, we know a number of them are in a hospital. some of them quite seriously and we haven't really had a recent report from the hospital on that. we know that five escaped. they are incredibly fortunate and we know that two were killed. people are showing their sorrow and support for their families by leaving flowers where this occurred. >> at this point, do you know how it was that the hostages were killed? >> no, we don't. and, the police won't have a thorough investigation step by step and then inform the public about what happened. we know that all of yesterday, for many, many hours, the whole thing was managed professionally and calmly. i think t

joining me is major general james spider marks who worked as an intel officer and also author of "genesis" is this cyberterrorism that was done by the hackers to tony? >> i would say it is. this clearly is a statement that clearly needs to terrorist type of activities followed up by a threat and allows those perpetrating and an opportunity out of the routine we'd normally see. you put everybody on heightened alert. it's very indiscriminate. there's no intelligence that they can discern right now. >> jamie, the public position of the white house and the u.s. government has been to not give this much attention. what is it like behind the scenes? this was a successful cyberterror attack against sony. obviously north korea, how seriously is this in "the situation room". >> this is against sony and we have to assume they have decent cybersecurity measures and again in a critical phase, particularly with north korea human rights situation being referred to as the security council next week. >> general marks, japan has announced, the government of japan will not release the movie "the interview.

. >> the worse i have fought since desert storm which was the genesis of this book, my military service, my thinking about warfare. i came of age when the cold war was still hot and there was still adapt when the soviet union was still a threat and while i'm studying at oxford the first time the berlin wall came down and peace broke out all over the world and saddam hussein invaded iraq and maybe he's hadn't quite broken out and i participated in desert storm which may be the last of the great battles. it was an unsettling, fascinating and invigorating experience to beat young and to participate in that kind of war but it also seemed to me between the end of the soviet union and the very rapid demise of the fourth largest army in the world, the american military, with some allied help it seems to me to indicate real watershed in the history of conflict. no one in their right mind would take on the united states again in conventional frontal, that given what they had just seen. so i believe future enemies of the united states, the north vietnamese had taken a stern, not how the iraqi arm

joining me is the author of "genesis code" and brian stelter, host of "reliable sources." jamie, it's hard to believe it was just a week ago when we got that obscure message from hackers that was going to threaten anybody that went and saw that movie on christmas day, was going to be in big trouble, making references to 9/11. and now we see theaters are going to go ahead with this. do we think that north korea will react in any way? what do we suspect? >> well, certainly i don't think there's a high likelihood that there will be 9/11 attacks on theaters coming from north korea. it's going to anger them in some way but, frankly, north korea is behaving so terribly, even worse than usual, i really can't imagine how we could have any worse relations with north korea. but at the same time, now that the movie is being released and hats off to wonderful people like michael in atlanta and others around the country, we have a real opportunity in this country not just to talk about freedom of expression here but also to talk about the terrible human rights conditions in north korea

that's the genesis. the jid mandate is a genesistive idea, the was in conservative think tank much when mitt romney signed the within 2006, on the podium hims with a spokesman from the heritage foundation, saying how wonderful the bill was because had an individual mandate, because that's about personal responsibility. it's about ending the free ride individuals jump into health insurance when they're sick and jump out when they're heldy. is really trying to thread that needle, to try to needle of using the individual responsibility but not putting such a burden on unaffordable. so we have an individual mandate, but we offer large tax solo income people can afor insurance and we have an exemption so no one has to may more than 8% of their income. that'swrote a book actually, i won't call it a a graphic, but it's novel. why? >> so there's a couple reasons, so the publisher approached me and said we think this would be a great way for people to learn about the health care bill. and i was eager to help you

it's called the genesis awards. it was like the jewish nobel prize, which seems redundant.ke the show opens with, "in the beginning, god told the jews" and lights flashed. and then there's a four minute auctioner thing. the guy says when you hear your name, i walk out? "no, no, you don't walk out. you stay." okay, "in the beginning, god told the jews, ladies and gentlemen, please welcome, great friend of israel's, jay leno." so i stay there. "what are you doing? what are you doing?" do i walk out? [ laughter ] no, you don't walk out. you stay here. yes, stay. okay. god told the jews, please welcome jay leno. "what are you doing?" i said could i walk out? "no i come down." i said do you want me to walk out? he goes, "no, you don't walk out. you walk in." i said, what? "you walk in." >> jimmy: he thought you were gonna walk out? >> walk out? [ laughter ] >> jimmy: no, you stay. you don't walk out. you walk in. >> other than that, it was good. [ laughter ] >> jimmy: jay leno, everybody, right there. [ cheers and applause ] i can't tahnk you enough for everything. thank you bud

that genesis of that discussion came our campaign to ask for the accountability for torture, to prosecuteviduals we knew broke the law. it's really clear this many number of years in -- especially these many years into the obama administration, that they showed little appetite for prosecutions. the justice department inquiries and -- >> and eric holder called for a special prosecutor, ultimately came out of the investigation saying no laws technically were broken. >> yeah, but they weren't thorough. they didn't look at the full gamut of the issues. they didn't interview, for instance, as i understand it -- they have not said otherwise. they haven't interviewed one individual who was a victim of torture. it's really hard to imagine how you would have a thorough report investigation without talking to the victims of the crimes. >> that's what the republicans are saying right now. amazing you could have 6,000 pages without interviewed those being accused of these things. let me take a different attack to the ultimate goal of yours. what you're suggesting is by issuing pardons -- i'll throw t

authorized everything in here, then i don't know why she's releasing it other than because, here's the genesis of it, cia is prohibited from spying domestically. she argues the cia spied domestically and one of the victims was her. >> she's ticked off they spied on her. i get that. but you don't put american lives in danger for that reason. >> she's going to argue that the american public has the right to know. and that i agree with her. >> is it news that there was an enhanced interrogation program that we used that we waterboarded and used some other technique, is that news still? if it was incrementally bigger and worse than that, is it worth risking the lives of these americans? >> you have to ask senator feinstein. she apparently believes there was such misrepresentations made to her by john brennan -- john brennan wasn't in charge at the time. >> why does she get the power to effectively order the executions of people? that's what the cia is saying, that they are worried people are going to get killed because of the release of this information. and they say what's not in this intel repor

what's even the genesis of this when the whole thing's classified and top secret, how do they even connect with these two men? >> that's a great question, chris. i filed actually a freedom of information act request for this contract about three years ago, and the cia issued what's known as a neither confirm nor deny that this exists. the senate confirms that there was a contract, a $180 million contract, that the firm received $80 million out of that. after 9/11, as james mitchell says in this interview, he made a phone call to someone who was managing one of his contracts. he said something should be done, and this person on the phone said to him, how can we ask anyone else to do something if you're not willing to do it yourself? so it appears that at that moment that was sort of the start of getting involved in doing something. he said he wanted to be part of the solution. and apparently that solution meant taking this defensive program known as survival evasion resistance escape, this was a program taught to u.s. military personnel how to avoid being tortured if they were captured by a