gennadiy druzenko, lawyer and co-founder and head of the first voluntary mobile hospital named afterrogov. we talked about everything, but in particular we paid attention to the men who are now fleeing abroad en masse. thank you very much. well, we continue to discuss the topic of men fleeing abroad. our colleague who works in transcarpathia, she went to the border with words. and this is exactly what is used by those who want to escape from the borders of ukraine - border guards say. you and i are now on the section of the state border with the slovak republic, near the maly berezny international road checkpoint. in principle, this section of the state border is attractive for ukrainian citizens. males in the 18-60 age category, the section of our border is mountainous and forested, which creates, in principle , prerequisites for, let's say, complicating actions border outfits. the border guards admit that before the war they also regularly caught illegal immigrants here. this was also a relatively massive phenomenon, but at that time people from asian and african countries who were

there a way out of this situation, we want to talk about this today an extremely complex topic, gennadiy druzenko, a lawyer and public activist, co-founder and head of the first voluntary mobile hospital named after mykola pirogov, joins our broadcast. congratulations. good day. gennady, here is such a simple general question. explain to me how it happens that, on the one hand, the army and the armed forces have the highest trust rating in the country. on the other hand, people are running away en masse from the army, from subpoenas, and including fleeing abroad, sometimes even risking their lives. do you have an answer to this question? i think, that these things, on the contrary, are interconnected, that is, this faith in the armed forces, sad or glorious, of course. this is an attempt to delegate, or shift responsibility onto the shoulders of those who wear uniform today, respectively, let the armed forces protect us, let them heroically fight against the russian aggressors, and i will take advantage of this, sit in the rear, or if there is a danger of getting into the armed forces forces, or