any questions for geof? all right thank you very much geof thank you. welcome mr. fried. >> jason fried. executive officer of lafco. overhead please? i'm going to start off first just with a broad based discussion of where lafco got involved. after the sfpuc meeting where they stopped all work on the cleanpowersf program there were a lot of remaining questions and the answers were in it the staff reports and available all we needed to do is bring them out flush them out and have a discussion about them and what we did with community advocate support was put out an rsp and answer all the questions people were having about the program get solutions to them and address put into a report and we came up with enernex winning the bid and it's over 200 pages i hope you have all read it by now especially you commissioner arce you have plenty of time now to read reports i'm sure. >> cover to cover. >> i'm going through the presentation that they presented you can go and watch that on sfgtv if you want to go back and read the whole thing i'm going to skim over it but i wanted

director fried brought up that that that i hadn't thought about and i'm interested in barbara and geof commenting on is this mix of residential and commercial so geof can you talk about how you guys solved that and barbara how you see that? >> as mr. fried referred to there's a requirement to offer service to residential customers under the cca statute but that aside you would want to anyway there's an economic quirk of cca -- if you follow something like pg&e's rate structure and that is that residential rates are generally fixed year round and commercial rates are seasonal summer and winter and a big difference between summer and winter rates on commercial accounts enough as to you would lose a little bit in the winter and gain quite a bit in the summer so thinking about phasing we began our first phase with mostly commercial customers at the beginning of the summer added residential at the at the beginning of winter and adding our last phase next summer so it helps us buy contracts and allows us to collateralize . >> every time you invite geof you learn something new which is great.

combination of going directly to the cpuc with a proposal as well as continuing to work with pg&e and as geof said looking at any revenues that might come in from the sale and procurement of power. there are significant opportunities for us to work with low income tenants, with small businesses that are not afforded to us right now with the current pg&e structure and kathleen is going to touch on that a little bit but it's an area of tremendous interest to us and possibility as we look at redesigning our programs to reach a much deeper and greater audience so kathleen? >> hello everyone i'm kathleen brian representing the energy efficiency programs from the department of the environment. so that was a great intro. give me just a moment. again, kathleen brian representing the department of the environment talking about our role in energy efficiency, the present and the future. so we know that our energy future will be in renewable energy but we also believe that energy efficiency matters is the first step, the first step and the journey to renewables must be an optimization of existing structu