geoff: well, i think when we get sustained at 650, that kind of level, the p.o.c. may need to do a double take and go back to 2014 and 20145, when did the p.o.v. start to talk down the renminbi when the talk about spare values and that's the key phrase from the governor and we're heading towards 610 people were talking about it breaking and nowhere near there yet. all the pboc needs to ship on the wire, no one said a single word about the renminbi and telling you these levels are happy to continue to advance. jon: down to 650, geoff, let's build. the derivatives on the trade, stronger currency. people have been bidding up the carpet price and out of the trades have been attached to the stronger currency, what is vulnerable at the moment, geoff? geoff: from a positioning point, we've seen the aussie adjust a bit but the chilean pace as and aussie dollar, i don't think the aussie is that vulnerable and would like it to move forward a bit. if you're an oil related currency, that's where you don't want to own the china, all the comments about the leadership next year a

geoff, what is the white house doing now to trace all those who may have been ex-possessed >> reporter: the white house says it is conducting contact tracing advising those who have been exposed whether they need to get tested or self-quarantine and as you know the cdc advises a 14 day quarantine following a potential exposure jose >> geoff bennett, thank you. >>> with so many of the president's inner circle testing positive for covid the administration is now scrambling to reshape its campaign strategy against joe biden. and with just 31 days until the election, vice president pence is heading out on the trail as both teams get ready for wednesday's debate garrett haake reports. >> reporter: tonight joe biden taking his campaign message online joining union workers in a digital town hall. >> it's about patriotism you wear a mask to protect the person next to you. you wear a mask to protect the bus driver you wear a mask to protect the person you're sitting next to on the bus >> reporter: both biden and his running mate kamala harris appearing at in-person events in battleground states

geoff: it is an interesting question.pened june 1 of this year, there are hundreds and hundreds of therapies in development, both vaccines, antivirals, antibodies, and we are showing how much innovation there is in this space, given how quickly we have gotten to pivotal stages, to proof of concept stages. that will be deployed down the road. you have a scenario where we now know companies genworth together , we can quickly de-risk these less known viruses. that can be applied down the road. alix: what can we expect as the industry changes, companies are dealing with the covid vaccine or treatment, what is the margin picture going to look like for some of these companies, and is that going to lead them to things like more m&a, they need to buy someone else so they can cut costs, what we see with that story? geoff: i am not sure covid specifically is going to change p&l for a number of the bigger companies. it will for small to mid cap biotech's, and there are some that have a number of products in development. they are not

lester >> all right geoff, thank you as geoff mentioned the president holding back to back rallies in key battleground of arizona. our garrett haake is at tucson at that second event garrett, he's hittin the trail awfully hard this week. >> reporter: hey, lester donald trump's campaign manager told reporters today he agrees with the biden campaign that this race is closer than the polling shows and the candidate will outwork biden in the last two weeks as he is outspending him in the air waves and that means in the weeks leading up to the election eight total rallies for president trump and biden held three similar events public health officials worry about events like this, that they could be superspreaders the trump campaign said they require temperature checks at the doors, they make people wear masks when they come inside. but as you can see, there's no socia distancing and most folks simply take their masks off once they're in the event lester >> thank you. >>> the coronavirus is surging to levels we haven't seen since july with many hospitals under siege now. gabe gutierrez is i

last night fanning the flames of xenophobia, doing little to quell doubts about his views on race geoff bennett reports. >> reporter: president trump touting his combative and chaotic debate performance during a rally in minnesota wednesday. >> they say that we, we, all of us, won big last night. >> reporter: but tonight there are big worries among some trump aides that he squandered a chance to regain momentum in the race trump advisers telling nbc news the president failed to make inroads with undecided voters, coming off as mean and angry rather than confident and in command. the president, they say, neglected to deliver many of his planne remarks, instead sparking controversy for refusing to denounce white supremacy. >> give me a name, give me name, who would you like me to condemn? >> proud boys. >> who proud boys, stand back and stand by -- >> reporter: president trump on wednesday attempting to distance himself. >> i don't know who the proud boys are, i can only say they have to stand down, let law enforcement do their work. >> reporter: but hours later on that rally stage in min

geoff bennett, i will start with you. we should say that the without is the people's house, it's where the president lives and works and it is a workplace for many people, yourself included. there are white house staff, there are people that work in the kitchen. that -- give us what you have learned about what efforts are being made to run down the tracing chains here so that they can ensure people are tested and safe. >> well, the white house, chris, says that they are in the process of what has to be a herculean effort to contact trace the great many people with whom president donald trump has been in contact this past week starting on saturday in the rose garden when he announced amy coney barrett as his choice to replace ruth bader ginsburg on the supreme court. you see row upon row of trump supporter and elected republican on the south lawn shaking hands, hugging each other, no social distancing, no mask wearing. and that continued straight up until thursday night when the president had that private fund-raiser in be

geoff?aid he cast the b >> reporter: that's right, lester. senator romney said he cast the ballot in the 2020 election and did not vote for president trump but wouldn't say if he voted for joe biden. with election day fast approaching the president's closing argument is clouded by controversy, including his attacks on dr. anthony fauci an his repeated downplaying of the pandemic, add to that, new reporting by "the new york times" revealing the president has extensive business interests in china and is linked to a bank account there. the disclosure dealing a blow to president trump's attempt to paint joe biden as the one who's soft on china. lester >> all right geoff bennett tonight, thank you. >>> join us for the final presidential debate moderated by nbc's kristen welker tomorrow night at 8:00 eastern here on nbc. >>> brahm back making a fiery return to the campaign trail tonight appealing to pennsylvania voters on behalf of his former number two joe biden and launching a sharp attack on president trump. both campaigns are mapping their path

geoff, let's start with you. chief of staff mark meadows a few moments ago walking out to that group of reporters without wearing a mask again, saying he fully expects there will be more positive cases in the president's orbit over the next few days. what else did we learn from mark meadows? >> reporter: he said president trump is in good spirits. he described him as being energetic. he said president trump's first question to him when they spoke by phone this morning was how is the economy doing. mark meadows also confirming on the record president trump is experiencing mild symptoms as he put it. he said he's optimistic he will make a quick and speedy recovery. even there, though, the white house chief of staff was making clear there is a continuity plan in place should one be needed. interestingly enough, mark meadows spoke about two things, one, the treatment and the timeline. i'll talk about both. he said that the white house learned of hope hicks testing positive for coronavirus as marine one was taking off

geoff bennett at the white house and ali vitali in nashville, tennessee. geoff, the president's team wanted him to be more controlled. they wanted him to be more reserved. i'm guessing they think he got the job done. >> yeah, look, steph, as one person close to the president put it to me before the debate, this person said even if he shows a monicum of self restraint that will reflect well on him. so, yes, the trump campaign generally believes the president put some points on the board last night when he tried to resurrect parts of his 2016 outsider persona that they feel won him a lot of support. when the president suggested to joe biden why he hadn't done in 40-plus years the things he now proposes to do. biden says, of course, because i hadn't been president. but here's the thing. there are few indications that that debate last night will change the underlying dynamics of the race in large part because 48.5 million people have already voted according to the u.s. election project. that's more people than voted in all of 2016 early. and so the other way w

geoff, thank you. let's check in with senate judiciary chairman lindsey graham, in the fight of his life, in a dead heat with democratic challenger jaime harrison who has shattered all senate fundraising records ever, bringing in $57 million in the final quarter before the election. cal perry is in mt. pleasant, south carolina, where he's been talking to voters. cal, lindsey graham has made it pretty clear how much the election is on his mind during his remarks. >> reporter: yeah, you talked about two hearings taking place. if you watch this hearing from south carolina, you're seeing a third, and that's the reelection campaign by lindsey graham as he addresses really the state. he's gone out of his way to do so. he won his last election by 16 points six years ago. donald trump carried this state by 14 points. so it is surprising that both donald trump and lindsey graham are in neck and neck races. as you said, $57 million raised by jaime harrison. the question is who are the voters that might be willin

lester >> geoff bennett, thank you. >>> now across america. tonight, as the country adds an astounding 71,000 new covid cases a day, wisconsin already in the glare of the national political spotlight suffering some of the worst of the pandemic breaking a single day record of new covid cases, 5,262, and deaths, 64 what seemed so distant for people here early in the pandemic now weighing heavily as they go to the polls these are the critical milwaukee suburbs that could determine if president trump wins wisconsin again or if joe biden flips it back to blue our journey brings us to wisconsin not only because it is a swing state, and an importan part of a path to victory for both men but also it is a state that's been rocked by two of the major issues of the campaign the protests for social justice and the violence, plus a frightening surge in covid cases and hospitalizations >> my symptoms were cough, fever, body ache >> reporter: melissa armer had covid last spring, but breathing problems lingered for weeks. so she went back to the hospital wher

geoff, the president told his rally crowd in duluth last night that he won big at the debate. but his close advisers and top republicans in washington are very concerned, according to all of our reporting. >> reporter: you're right about that, andrea, president trump trying to rewrite recent history, giving himself high marks for his combative debate performance on the debate stage and on the rally stage last night in duluth and on twitter last night, the president tweeting, i won the debate big based on a compilation of polls et cetera. it's not clear what polls he's citing. the takeaway from the president's allies and aides, some of them who we talked to privately, is that he made the campaign climate even worse, both with his comportment on the debate stage and his refusal to directly denounce white supremacists, that if the debate was a chance to reset the playing field politically, it was a squander opportunied oppo. a few of the ways we know that publicly is the soft criticism he's getting from republican senators, the fact that his campaign, we're told, didn't see the k

florida now geoff. >> reporter: hey, shep, good evening. president trump began his remarks here on the rally stage behind me saying these heartened and humbled by the prayers he's received during his recovery from covid-19. he then quickly pivoted to the usual attack lines that we've heard from the president on campaign stages just like this one. president trump is keeping up a fairly aggressive campaign schedule just this week in fact. a rally tonight in florida he then heads to pennsylvania, . his trip then iowa, then north carolina, then back here to florida. his trip here coincided with a new memo from the white house physician, sean conley, saying that president trump has now tested negative. the white house has, as you y know, for days refused to say precisely what president trump's status was was he testing positive or negative we still don't know when the president last tested negative before he was infected but the president back on the campaign trail, hoping to jump start his campaign now that most polls show him trailing joe bide

good morning, i'm hallie jackson along with geoff bennett, ali vitali, steve kornacki, and i want tort with you at the white house, geoff, new concern about the comments the president made, his attempted clean up after extreme right wing groups and the reaction from republicans on capitol hill is certainly note worthy. listen to what we have heard so far. >> i want to associate myself with the remarks of senator tim scott, he said it was unacceptable not to condemn white supremacists and so i do so in the strongest possible way. >> he should unequivocally condemn white supremacy. >> he has been clear there is no place for racism in this country. >> geoff, tell me what you're hearing from the white house, campaign sources as joe biden frankly gets a new attack line here. >> reporter: the collective reporting of our white house team is that the mood in and around the campaign, and here at the white house can be described as worried, quiet, people in shock. although critics point out that it's really the unvarnished racism that creates a political messaging problem that accounts for the

second presidential debate the candidates are preparing for separate but opposing televised town halls geoff bennett has late details. >> reporter: first lady melania trump tonight detailing what she calls her personal experience with covid-19 revealing in a statement that 14-year-old barron trump tested positive for coronavirus. naturally my mind went immediately to our son, the first lad writes, after learning she and the president contracted covid-19. she says barron initially tested negative but the teenager was tested again. the result positive. she says her son had no symptoms and has now tested negative. as for her own symptoms, the firs lady says they were minimal, though they hit me all at once and it seemed to be a roller coaster of symptoms in the days after, she said she had a cough, body aches, headaches and was extremely tired. unlike her husband whose symptoms were more severe, she did not go to the hospital and did not receive the same course of treatment. choosing instead what she calls a more natural route, relying on vitamins and healthy food the president late today speak

lester >> geoff bennett in florida tonight, thank you. >>> thousands went to the polls in georgia today casting their ballots in the first day of early voting. in the key battleground state behind the scenes, officials are working to prevent a repeat of the election chaos in the primary. blayne alexander is there. >> reporter: in some parts of georgia, it already looks like election day. >> how long have you been out here so far >> four hours. >> reporter: thousands waiting to cast the ballots. >> it could have rained or snowed, i would not care >> reporter: you're not going anywhere >> i'm not going anywhere. >> reporter: one metro atlanta polling site reporting waits of up to seven hours an isolated issue bu reminiscent of widespread problems in the state's june primary. >> i'm not leaving. >> reporter: you're not leaving? some of the biggest problems in areas with higher black populations. since then, fulton county rolled out a laundry list of fixes. more money, more pol workers and more voting locations including mobile precincts and mega sites like this nba stadium turned voting lo

our geoff bennett has a preview. >> reporter: tonight, we are just hours away vice president mike pence and senator kamala harris facing off in an historic debate with suddenly higher stakes. coming as president trump recovers from coronavirus, all eyes on the vice president's performance trying to make up ground in national polls and on senator harris who will be facing the biggest test of her political career and the debate even more critical with both serving as understudies to the oldest candidates to ever lead the republican and democratic tickets both pence and harris have spent hours preparing with traditional mock sessions according to sources familiar. >> when the president told me he was headed back to the white house he told me to head to utah we're looking very much forward to the vice presidential debate. >> reporter: former florida attorney general pam bondi playing harris in the pence practice sessions the harris campaign subbing one indiana native for another. with former mayor pete buttigieg playing pence. >> i want to thank the people of utah for being so welcoming in

lester >> all right geoff bennett tonight, thank you. >>> there's late word this evening the two covid vaccine trials are safe to resume after being put on hold for safety concerns and the country has set a new daily record more than 77,000 new cases. here's miguel almaguer. >> reporter: as our country sets a new record for daily covid cases tonight a grim prediction from researchers, by the end of february our national death toll could hit 500,000. today 34 states where mandates and restrictions vary widely have already surpassed more than 1,000 deaths >> what i would have loved to have seen was a little bit mor uniformity in what the states are doing so that you have a consistency. >> reporter: today amid the race for a vaccine, johnson & johnson and astra zeneca working with university of oxford announced they'll resume stage three clinical trials after a safety pause while we wait for a vaccine, a new forecast also says universal mask wearing would save 130,000 lives. cities like fargo are now implementing new mandates but the dakotas which had among the lowest infection rates in t

election, especially the wide use of mail-in voting despite little evidence that it leads to fraud geoff bennett reports. >> reporter: president trump sowing doubt about the legitimacy of the election during tuesday night's debate. >> this is going to be a fraud like you've never seen. >> reporter: with more false attacks on voting by mail. >> as far as the ballots are concerned it's a disaster. >> reporter: that despite study after study showing voter fraud is exceedingly rare, and recent testimony from fbi director christopher wray. >> we have not seen historically any kind of coordinated national voter fraud effort in a major election. >> reporter: still, the president unleashed a flood of misinformation and mistruths about mail-in voting. >> a solicited ballot, okay, solicited is okay you're soliciting, you're asking, they send it back, you send it back. i did that if you have an unsolicited -- they're sending millions of ballots all over the country. >> reporter: a handful of states with a mix of democratic and republican governors routinely send ballots to all registered voters ele

his doctor just issuing a new update of the president's covid test results nbc's geoff bennett has late details for us. >> reporter: tonight, a return to the campaign trail for a president still recovering from coronavirus. seen boarding air force one without wearing a mask president trump holding a rally in florida tonight kicking off a week of campaign stops after hosting a campaign style event at the white house saturday >> first of all, i'm feeling great. i don't know about you. how's everyone feeling? >> reporter: the president's physician dr. sean conley issuing a memo late tonight saying the president has tested negative for days the white house sidestepped questions as to whether president trump had tested negative conley over the weekend simply said the president was no longer considered a transmission risk. the president now claiming covid immunity although the science isn't clear. >> once you do recover you are immune so now you have a president who doesn't have to hide in a basement like his opponent. >> reporter: president trump attempting to spin his bout with covid-19 to

know the full severity of president trump's illness and how long it might take to recover lester >> geoff bennett, thanks, next, our reality check on the spread of covid-19 as the virus rages on, in so much of america. >>> we're back with more of our coverage with president trump hospitalized with the coronavirus, infectious disease experts saying his diagnosis underscores how quickly covid can spread more on that from tom costello. >> reporter: from the small offices in the west wing, to the plane, to the indoor debate hall. the environments were not unlike americans workplaces, schools, sporting events and restaurants. controlling covid is all about limiting the amount of virus in the air. droplets from a sneeze linger in any room with poor ventilation. the particles slowly spread in a thick but invisible cloud. enough virus to make others sick even five minutes after a sneeze but with a ventilation system those droplets thin out quickly within a minute they get sucked up by the air invents. the fewer droplets, the less virus in the air to make people sick open windows increase the clea

lester >> all right, geoff bennett at the white house. thanks >>> also breaking, the justice department suing google in a massive antitrust suit, arguing it's far too big, abusing its dominant position, and squeezing out competitors. tom costello on what it might mean for you. >> reporter: few companies get so big their very name becomes a verb but ask any american which search engine they prefer, the answer is almost unanimous. >> google. >> google. >> google. >> i always go to google >> reporter: 90% of online searches are run by google. companies pay to place those ads that pop up at the top of your every search now the justice department says google is so dominant because of deals it struck to be the default search app on phones and computers, elbowing out wannabe competitors like yelp. >> i think what yelp is hoping for is just really the chance for a level playing field where we can compete on the merits. >> reporter: in a statement google says the lawsuit is deeply flawed "people use google because they choose to, not because they'

geoff bennett has more. >> reporter: tonight joe biden and kamala harris campaigning together in arizona after last night's debate showdown. >> we'll be ready on day one. >> reporter: vice president mike pence holding duelling campaign events in arizona and nevada >> had a little debate with kamala harris last night some people think we did all right. >> reporter: last night the candidates clashing on the pandemic response. >> the american people have witnessed what is the greatest failure of any presidential administration in the history of our country. >> when i look at their plan that talks about advancing testing, creating new ppe, developing a vaccine, it looks a little bit like plagiarism which is something joe biden knows a little bit about. >> reporter: the senator blasting the president's attempts to dismantle the affordable care act. >> if you have a preexisting condition, heart disease, diabetes, breast cancer, they're coming for you. if you love someone who has a preexisting condition they're coming for you. >> reporter: while pence pressing why neither harris nor biden will

geoff bennett has details. >> reporter: two town halls as different as the candidates themselves president trump pressed by moderator savannah guthrie declining to denounce the qanon conspiracy theory >> i know nothing about qanon. >> i just told you. >> i know very little. you told me but what you tell me doesn't necessarily make it fact i hate to say that i know nothing about it. >> reporter: the fbi has dubbed qanon a domestic terrorism threat on coronavirus, the president refusing to directly answer whether he supports a disputed herd immunity approach >> do you support herd immunity as a strategy, essentiall just let people get sick >> the cure cannot be worse than the problem itself. >> reporter: medical experts say it would result in far more deaths when pushed on his finances, th president didn't deny owing more than $400 million in loans. >> are you confirming that you do owe some $400 million? >> what i'm saying i it's a tiny percentage of my net worth. >> that sounds like yes. >> who he owes the money is why this matters so much. if, for example, it was a foreign entity who want

lester >> geoff bennett at the white house, thanks. >>> what about the voters themselves, did the debate change anyone's mind. we asked nbc's kate snow to check back with the ohio voters she introduced us to before the debate. >> reporter: can you raise your hands if you're going to support trump this time we met these farmers last week in ohio when we checked in today they're still strongly backing the president. >> i think he looked presidential but he was pent up and argumentative because of the 47 months he's had. >> when it's something as serious as the president -- i feel like you're going to want to fight and scratch and claw a little bit. >> reporter: on the president not condemn ck ha ing hate groups. >> i'm not familiar with the proud boys or whatever we have the freedom to be whatever we want. if those people want to do that, they're not hurting anybody, they may believe it. but as long as they're not burning and rioting and threatening people's lives and businesses, what are you going to do >> reporter: you're supportive of the president not calling them out. >> i think he co

geoff bennett, thank you. >>> and joining mow now is former acting director of the cdc, dr. richard besser, currently the president and ceo of the robert wood johnson foundation. doctor, thanks for being here with us. i want to underscore what i said a moment ago and have you elaborate on it. just because you have a negative test now doesn't mean you're going to have a negative test tonight or a negative test tomorrow or i guess any time in the incubation period. >> that's right. first thing i want to say is, my thoughts are with the president, first lady, everyone who has been impacted by this. and my hope is that this is a wake-up call for what we need to do to really nip this pandemic and slow it down so transmission is reduced and lives are saved. your question is a good one. so with every infection, there's a time between when you're exposed and when you develop symptoms. for this on average, it's four to six days but it can be as long as up to two weeks. that's why it's so important to have that period of quarantine if you have been exposed, to be 14 days. and once you

geoff zelleny is out front. >> thank you, north.>> reporter: horns honk for joe biden. >> hello, north carolina. >> reporter: the real work is also happening here in the neighborhoods of trump and biden supporters. in the closing days of the race volunteers for the biden campaign are hitting the streets for the first time in eight months after being grounded by the pandemic. >> joe biden, let's hear it. >> reporter: they have gloves, masks and an urgent task. finding voters who still haven't been reached. >> people have been calling and texting and writing and everything they can do and have not heard from these voters. this conversation or this contact is really important. >> reporter: carolyn and scarlet have been itching to knock on doors. >> we have to really get those votes out. >> you wonder what the other side has been doing and if they've been doing it all along? >> we heard the trump campaign was canvassing throughout all this. the people we want to elect care about people's lives. that's why this decision was made to not d

let me send it back to you >> geoff, thank you very much.tbank's spac play, disney's streaming shakeup and major headwind in the race for a covid-19 vaccine all topping your headlines this tuesday morning. for all of those story, we send it over to leslie picker >> good morning, dom a busy news morning. johnson & johnson announcing that it is pausing the phase three trial of its coronavirus vaccine due to an unexplained illness in a study participant the coach. first reported notes that the study is not under a clinical hold and that it is not immediately apparent whether the volunteer received the actual treatment or a placebo j & j says this is an expected part of clinical studies and this is the second time a major trial has been paused in recent weeks over safety concerns j & j is also set to release quarterly results tho s this mog and the company's cfo will join "squawk box. >>> and disney in order to further accelerate its direct to consumer strategy, they will be centralizing its media business into a single organization that will be

>> geoff bennett, thank you. with the president and several of his closest advisers down with covid, the dynamic of the campaign has certainly changed. the president's campaign is scrambling to develop a new strategy while vice president joe biden hits the road and the vp candidates gear up for their debate later this week. ali vitali has the latest. >> joe biden jumps ahead while president trump recovers at walter reed. new nbc polling showing biden nearly doubling his lead with a 14-point advantage over trump. first look at what voters saw of that chaotic first debate ever use the word smart with me. >> a 32-point advantage of biden's temperature rmt over trump. the president's support slipping significantly with men over 50. >> health care. much lower price. >> taken before the president's covid-19 diagnosis is a snapshot of a race thrown into deeper turmoil. trump now sidelined by the virus and unable to campaign, with some of his top advisers also stricken. his team send iing out top surrogates virtually and

and geoff joins me now live. geoff, good morning. good to see you.know, the paranoia among democrats about polls is palpable right now. what did pollsters learn from the experience of 2016? as you point out in the piece, the national polls in 2016 were about right. >> you're right about that. in 2016, many pollsters especially at the state level didn't adjust their samples to account for a voter's education level. that was especially the case, willie, in states like michigan and wisconsin, which clinton lost. as we later learned, donald trump won an overwhelming number of white voters without a college aeducation or as white voters with four-year degrees broke for hillary clinton. but again, polls should not be mistaken for crystal balls. they're snapshots in time. that doesn't mean their serve no purpose. with enough snapshots, you can get a clearer picture of how the race is shaping up with nine days to go. >> nine days left before we can ignore the polls and look at the actual vote. fascinating piece. good to see you. >>> coming up next, a "sunday

joining me now, nbc's mike memoli covering the white house campaign and nbc white house correspondent geoff bennett. mike memoli, you were in nashville and went through the whole process. joe biden had by all accounts his best debate performance yet, you've been to all of them. did he give the president an opening by shorthanding a transition out of fossil fuels which could cost him texas? >> yeah, andrea, given how quickly the biden campaign and ultimately biden himself sought to clarify his position there, biden speaking to reporters on the tarmac before he flew home, making clear it's his position on winding down fossil fuel subsidies, subsidies to the oil companies, not ending the oil industry completely. there was a recognition there that that was one misstep in what you say and what the biden campaign certainly feels was the best, when you consider 13 debates over the course of this 2020 campaign, we've seen all of them, ranging from the good, the bad, and the ugly, but biden bringing it when he needed to the most, in the final stretch. the issue they thought might have tripped them u

nbc's geoff bennett has the story. >> reporter: president trump sowing doubt about the legitimacy of the election during tuesday night's debate. >> this is going to be a fraud like you've never seen >> reporter: with more false attacks on voting by mail. >> as far as the ballots are concerned, it's a disaster >> reporter: that's despite study, after study, showing voter fraud is exceedingly rare. and recent testimony from fbi director, christopher wray. >> we have not seen, historically, any kind of coordinated, national voter fraud effort, in a major election >> reporter: still, the president unleashed a flood of misinformation and mistruths about mail-in voting >> a solicited ballot. okay solicited is okay. you're soliciting. you're asking. they send it back. you send it back i did that if you have an unsolicited -- they're sending millions of ballots, all over the country. >> reporter: a handful of states with a mix of democratic and republican governors routinely send ballots to all registered voters election officials say by registering to vote, people are effectively requesting

geoff bennett, thank you so you as well in utah. tune in tonight. our special coverage of the vice presidential debate, coverage starting at 8:00 eastern on msnbc. >>> on this show to a rare interview you'll only see here with america's top spy hunter, the head of national koubt intelligence and security. he's talking candidly with richard engel about the integrity of next month's election and how foreign countries are trying to influence how you vote. >> we're heading into the home stretch going into the election. are you seeing any efforts ramping up from russia or china to try to sway the election one way or the other that americans should be wary of? >> we're confident the election infrastructure and posture is resilient. we're not worried about changing votes at scale, but we are worried about influence of the american voter. swaying a voter potentially to vote one way or another based upon propaganda or chaos, or information. >> richard engel, you saw him is here live with thmore on that interview. what else did he tell you? >> we spoke for ab

nbc's geoff bennett at the white house, dr. tom frieden, former cdc director, dr. anne rimone, zeke emmanuel, bob costa with "the washington post" and nbc's mike memoli. he joins us from grand rapids where vice president biden was scheduled to campaign today. geoff, good news about vice president pence, but tell us about that and who else might be at risk and what we know about the president. does he have symptoms? >> i'll start with what you said about vice president mike pence. it's a positive sign that he and the second lady karen pence have tested negative. this is according to the vice president's press sngt. that's a positive sign from a continuity of government perspective. but as we've come to learn over the last seven or eight months of this pandemic, one negative test is a good sign but it's not a final one. the pences will continue to be tested. but to your other question, the contact tracing that the white house is doing, according to a white house official, you would imagine is just a herculean effort in large part because of the great many people pres

and geoff cooling e—mailed us this week with this.ulie coyne had a different perspective writing on thursday... well, the health editor for bbc news, hugh pym, has scarcely been off our screens over the past few months and a couple of weeks ago he won this year's charles wheeler award for outstanding contribution to broadcastjournalism. and hejoins me now. the public mood around covid has really changed since march, hasn't it? genuine disagreement nationwide about lockdown measures and i wonder if you think there are dangers for the bbc in putting those views on air as they might discourage compliance. there did seem to be much more national consensus about lockdown measures in march, april and may. and that seems very different now understandably when people have lostjobs and their businesses have been affected, and they are getting pretty fed up with the situation. i think we have a duty to reflect different shades of opinion on bbc news, and we are certainly not shy of using interviewees who might be critical of aspects of governme

geoff bennett, i know you'll be standing at your post and bring us updates as well.ant to bring in our next guest, olivia troye, recently an aide to vice president mike pence as well as to the white house coronavirus task force. that is up until august, citing what she described as a flat-out response for human life in the president's response to the pandemic. olivia, thank you for joining us on what is an incredibly busy morning. >> thank you for having me. obviously i was shocked when i heard the news about hope hicks last night. i was thinking about her and hoping she would have mild symptoms and a speedy recovery. even more shocked when i woke up to the news today. quite frankly, it's a sombering moment. as a patriot, you don't want to see your commander-in-chief sick. i worry about the vice president and the people around him. quite frankly, watching mark meadows conference right now, i am a little bit surprised at what i see as somewhat of a breach in protocol about the fact that they let the president take off on marine one with that immediate staff knowing th