electoral and otherwise, is the former labour mp and former defence secretary under tony blair, geoff hoonhave your company this evening geoff. thank you very much for joining me. good evening. first of all, i mean, i'm quite intrigued, actually, by what you make of nigel farage in general. you would have encountered him dunng you would have encountered him during your political career. he staged this comeback. what do you make of him on this electoral campaign? >> i met him in strasbourg when i was the europe minister. he certainly seemed to enjoy the life in strasbourg, even if he didn't like the european parliament much. he led a strange group. i'm not a i'm not a golfer. but my distinct impression was that they had moved straight from the golf club to the european parliament, elected for ukip. he clearly was head and shoulders above them. he was articulate and capable and very thoughtful and that was and very thoughtful and that was an interesting exercise in meeting someone who'd frankly been elected to the european parliament, even though he hated the whole place. >> yes, but then do

i've got craig mckinley and geoff hoon. look, i want to cut straight to the chase.eform and stuff. that's impacting them today. i also want to look at labour, though. take a look at this. keir starmer was challenged during a radio show today. listen we will protect i have protected in the past and worked with those protecting women's spaces. >> i will do that in the future. they will be protected. i'm particularly concerned about violence against women and girls and the biological and the need for biological, for spaces for biological women to be safe, they're the same in sport, the same in hospitals. but jane can you say now, can you say now that you will will not allow men biological men, under any guise to come into women's safe spaces? we will, of course, protect . protect. >> can you say that? because we shouldn't have to be kind to these very few men. you need to think about 51% of the population who are sick of the absolute twaddle that comes out of your mouth when we ask these questions. >> jane twaddle, she says. >> jane twaddle, she says. >> that was jane

kwasi kwarteng at ten, geoff hoon at 10:20.to be talking about that remarkable incident involving surrey police and a rogue cow. i have got an eyewitness to that event on with some astonishing detail that, frankly, the police do not want you to know about. okay the police do not want you to know about what this chap is going to tell us. but before all of that, throughout the election campaign , we are going to be campaign, we are going to be heanng campaign, we are going to be hearing from people right across the united kingdom about what really matters to them. is it issues such as nhs waiting list? is it the impact of immigration? is it the impact of immigration? is it the cost of living crisis? is it the cost of living crisis? is it the cost of living crisis? is it crime? policing well, our reporters have been out and about to meet some voters from all four nations, and we're going to be hearing from them regularly before polling day. and actually a little bit earlier on as well. one of our reporters , sophie reaper, was rep

later on, they're going to be giving kwasi kwarteng a good grilling no doubt, as well as geoff hoon asell. but i'm just going to ask a couple of them now if that's all right, sir, i'll start with you if that's okay. who do you think is winning for you.7 >> winning for you? >> well, it seems to be a clear win for sunak, surprisingly so. he seems much better coached, much better structured in his answers and keeps coming back and starmer's hardly landing a punch on any on anything. >> yeah it has. i think it's fair to say been probably sunak's best performance and arguably starmer's worst . we'll arguably starmer's worst. we'll find out whether or not the people who disagree with that more when we delve into this a little bit later on. so what's been one of the standout moments for you? i think you were saying that labour have been quite good at criticising, have they? >> the labour party is good at criticising, it's not good at giving a straight answers. the issue with slough, with the birmingham and other local authorities that have failed financially, they blame the government. they s

that's geoff hoon now. he's a former labour defence minister, amongst other things as well.g up, as the bbc reports on liberal democrat leader ed davey building sandcastles, are the media being a little bit too soft on the potential leader of the opposition? but next? yes the opposition? but next? yes the very first of newspaper front pages. we get stuck in to that okay. welcome back to patrick christys . tonight, i've got the christys. tonight, i've got the very first of tomorrow's front pages for you. let's do it. let's start with the metro hero patients stop bomber killing nurses, lone wolf terrorist talked of detonating device. so this is a hospital patient who stepped in, at, well, i just read through this as alleged self—radicalized lone wolf terrorist who wanted to kill as many nurses as possible with a bomb and a knife attack. nathan newby was smoking a cigarette outside when he saw mohammed farooq began a conversation that finished with the would be attacker giving him his phone so he could call the police. i quite like to go into that in a bit more detail, more on

thank you both in the studio with us is the former labour defence secretary, geoff hoon, who i've knownme. >> geoff, they've debated that. i'd rather talk to you. you were a labour mp in 1992 when the tories won an improbable election victory. 1997 you went into government for the first time in 18 years. what's it like because you haven't been in power for 18 years. how do you know what to do? how do you know what levers to pull? you're a minister immediately. i mean, was it daunting? >> it is daunting. it's a huge challenge, particularly when labour candidates will have been fighting hard fights up and down the country in difficult constituencies. sometimes and then suddenly to be parachuted into government without much real experience of the civil service. it was almost like a curtain opening on the stage to reveal lots of people, lots of participants who, frankly, who didn't know anything about before. and, well, i'm thinking of the first blair cabinet. >> margaret beckett was probably one of the few who'd had ministerial experience , but as ministerial experience, but as a very juni

. >> well, we're also joined by geoff hoon. geoff is a former labour minister.and we're delighted to see you, geoff. thanks very much indeed for being here and coming in. meanwhile, keir starmer has sort of created a lot of controversy by allocating more heat to terms as a working person or not, as someone who can't afford to write a check if they if they need to. >> well, i think the conservatives are just getting more and more desperate on tax. they're scratching around trying to find something. i noticed in the daily mail this morning that there's a story about some obscure report that was published some time ago, and yet the reality is, the tax burden on the british people today is higher than at any time since 1948, when the country was recovering from six years of the second world war. so i think we should actually be talking about the tax burden today, not speculation about labour's plans. >> well, except it's interesting you make that point because it won't get any lower under laboun won't get any lower under labour, presumably. i mean, sir keir starmer

first year in government under labour, former labour minister geoff hoonis former labour minister geoff hoone. is labour lying about your money? but are they also covering up for labour showdowns . down? and why is the media losing its mind over football fans having fun and will give it a good tap ? a good tap? >> yes, i know everybody watching this channel right now is going to be. >> does anybody else find this ed davey loving? absolutely ridiculous. on my panel tonight it is daily express columnist carole malone, journalist and labour supporter benjamin butterworth , and founder of butterworth, and founder of global britain and conservative backer amanda gal. oh yes. and what's going on here? >> oh, stupid joking . on. >> oh, stupid joking. on. >> oh, stupid joking. on. >> get ready britain, here we go a huge problem is hurtling towards britain . next. towards britain. next. >> patrick. thank you. good evening to you. reform uk has been launching its election contract with the british people today in south wales, describing it as a serious plan to reshape the way the country is run . the

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. >> we've also got geoff hoon, former labour cabinet minister, and i'm fascinated to talk about him,ime, because labour are going to be going into government for the first time in 14 years. and we're going to talk to kwasi kwarteng, who of course, was in that short lived, disastrous liz truss government as chancellor. >> and if you like, doggies, we've got an excellent doggy story on the show today. this is about a charity that is encouraging people to take on dogs to train them for, to be guide dogs. >> oh, i do that. yeah, well, you are exactly what they're looking for. >> and of course, beverley turner is smiling here. she hates dogs. >> beverley. scared of dogs. can you not like dogs? >> i don't hate the dog is going to sit on beverley's lap. >> what i don't get and i think it's. >> i think it's phenomenal. the people who help train. >> yeah , but the problem is you >> yeah, but the problem is you have to give them away. yeah. >> yes, you have to. now that's what i couldn't do. >> it's like fostering. >> it's like fostering. >> yeah. and you have to keep watching to work out how