um, i know at some point sir geoff palmer was a potato peeler, with...ven after he finished university, and a lot of that is evidence of the structural racism that he was working against. and i think with figures like him, we see their accomplishments and they hide a lot of the scars. and i think, for me, i'm interested in where the discomfort lies and what he might be keeping beneath the surface, and how we can bring that into a richer understanding of who he is. so my parents are from ghana. oh, yeah. and so fathers are not expected to raise their children. yeah. the women raise the children. mm—hm. and... oh, yeah. you know, and... my mum would leave me with her sisters. yes. and when i was leaving jamaica, my grand—aunt, a lovely lady, i'll show a picture of her, who was the boss... yeah. wow. ..my grand—aunt in kingston, and she called me over and wrapped me in newspaper, my chest, so i wasn't that cold when i got to... newspaper? yeah. the actual newspaper? newspaper she was reading. she wrapped it around your chest? she got me to take my shirt off