grassroots challengers to the status quo are beginning to make their voices heard one such voice is geoffrey carson a military veteran and congressional candidate for virginia's eighth district jeffries a self described libertarian and his views on everything from immigration reform to u.s. foreign policy set him aside from your average candidate jeff joins me now to talk about his campaign and what leveling the political playing field could do for american democracy jeff thank you so much for taking the time thanks for having me abbi censor best you can be here today and i apologise and i'm not better looking but let's talk about the campaign why run as a as a libertarian why not run within within the party within the democratic party or even the g.o.p. . you know it's a great question i get obviously just about every day from voters and the simple answer is. as many americans believe that the two party system is the strangle that they have in this country and this is obviously not healthy it's not helping and it's not helping us move the right direction so. you know i i got into this side i want