the other thing which is to continue the impossible for ever you know if i could let me go to geoffrey milwaukee i think that's an interesting point because you know there's so many people over the last four years that have been punished greatly punished they didn't do anything wrong ok so why you know austerity and you know you just the thing is to say you're going to have to live poor now this next generation just going to have to live poor that's hard thing to sell politically it's not even good economically absolutely yes and i think we should continue using the term austerity i don't think we should gloss over this and try to put a happy face on it you know in the united states we have lots of political spin masters like frank luntz and others who actually try and craft a language that is going to best try and manipulate and to shape and mold a public opinion on these issues i think we should continue calling this austerity it's terribly austere people are suffering terribly and as you know peter at the stockholm school of economics and read some time with my visiting apartment there and in

to cross out the politics of austerity i'm joined by geoffrey summers in milwaukee he's an associate professor at the university of wisconsin milwaukee and a visiting faculty member at the stockholm school of economics and in.