in london we have geoffrey robertson, founder of doughty street chambers and former of the war crimesourt in sierra leone. geoffrey was appointed by the unsc stink jurist member on its justice council. we have sawsan zaher, human rights lawyer and legal advisor for the civil society coalition for emergency in arab society. and in new york we have marc, military advisor of the dutch and bl pax for peace. marc was in gaza during the operation to investigate the conduct of war. he also instructs war crime investigators at the institute of international criminal investigations. thank you all for joining us. i want to start with geoffrey, because the rules of law, we hear all these terms, ihl, international humanitarian law, the latin phrase, and a thing everyone has heard of but no one really quite understands all the details, the geneva conventions. i want to ask you to start our conversation off. give us the 92nd version. what -- the 90 second version. what are the rules of law? geoffrey: the rules of war are not rules of war. they have been with us for hundreds of years. don't kill civ

killed and displaced during fighting between the if you're in the army and took ryan rebels. geoffrey robertson is a fully united nations war crimes judge. he says the united nations failed to serve its purpose. i think it's very sad and very disappointing to you. and cause of a general malays that is affecting the united nations, which is not fit for each of us. its purpose laid out, you look job is to stop was good, you war and no truly as it failed, we crane each has failed with a number of, of the was most recently at the moment. the good kara back and ages now they with to guy because uh, walk huge his guy is in this very obscure. ready where we do know at times who's right wrong, but i would say so a commission is free experts who had good news report several report shedding light on the account with billers. he particularly critical of the view in the government as well as of the t grind forces and it was, it gives to now being a band because it's and then virus and 2 countries that want to work with you. and not consider the allegations of genocide doing, doing video again and all posit