for all i know, some distinguished physicists assist may be plotting geon. but by and large, atheism has replaced any kind of tolerance and forbearing agnosticism as the de facto standard in anglo-american scientific intellectual life. and as a result, the religious tradition is a very, very long 5,000 year-old tradition has been made into an object among sophisticated men and women. much to the consternation of people who deeply deeply admire that tradition. and that's i think it is a change in the diapason of life that we need to pay attention to. it's a relatively new, i think it started around 19801985. but it has become an accelerants and force of intellectual life. if you are minded to be a serious christian, or an extremely devout orthodox jew, or even the serious muslim. better not go into the scientific community and tell your fraternity brothers that that is what you are. best to keep your mouth closed. and i think that's generally true. it's among the various topics about which it is not a particularly good idea to make broadcast your views. >> an