to what extent george are mitsotakis and his policies the reason why greece's economy is growing at twice the euro zone average? the country was down and very nearly out from near bankruptcy. wouldn't any party have managed to get greece on its feet again regardless of policies there was only one way to go or did the country need someone like mitsotakis? >> well, to start with, you would say that even from 2019, the greek economy had started to get stabilized even under syriza. because syriza in the first six months of 2015, played a very bad game for greece's economic future. but then it decided the bailout and meant -- so mitsotakis took over from there. from a moment during which greece's economy was quite stabilized. and indeed, he managed to improve some indicators despite serious problems, the covid-19 pandemic and also the conflict in ukraine. however, greece's economic future also does not necessarily look bleak because beyond the quantitative analysis of the indicators, we should also place attention into the quality and looking at the number of greece's debt, for example, it is