the play for this program, saint joan, by george bernard shaw. special guest, julie harris. w your host mr. jose ferrer. saint joan is essentially about sainthood, but there is a certain romantic quality to it as george bernard shaw sweeps his audience along in an almost poetic flight. it is not a biography in the sense that you can turn to the play for an accurate reporting of the facts, rather shaw selected the facts which suited his purpose. he approaches joan, his protagonist, historically, but develops the character mainly in terms of ideological clashes. primarily, shaw is interested in joan as someone who imposes her ideas on history. she is led by the voices of st. catherine, st. margaret, and st. michael who instructed her to acquire a horse, soldier's clothing with armor, and an army and drive the english out of france. so her actions are based on her faith in her voices. shaw was a co-director for the first london production in 1924 with sybil thorndike in the title role, and he reminded her that joan was a sturdy, independent 19-year-old woman, not a sweet angelic

tougher and he was against everything that all the best writers wrote an walt whitman and against george bernard shawand he chased margaret sanger out of the country. and he said when you talk about the anti-movement to the women, i think he has had a steady backlash for the males and females and the women's movement in the 60s started because the antiwar movement was leaving the mouth, not letting them run anything in one of them said i got mad and tom hayden got off the plane and handed me his dirty laundry and said to clean it. and so we have had this back and forth for a long time. >> before we take questions, i would like to ask you a very current question that may not seem important, but i think it does get at something important of the culture. sheryl sandberg has launched a campaign with a girl scout to ban the word bossy as an adjective that is used for girls. and i'm curious as to whether or not you think this is an attack on language. >> what about halsey? [laughter] >> i actually think that we should embrace this work. if you have any opinion on that? [laughter] >> that is a good idea. >>

was against everything, all the best writers wrote, things against walt whitman and against george bernard shawand you chased margaret sanger out of the country and forced a major abortionist at commit suicide. he stayed in our life until the 1920s so when you talk about the anti-movement to the women there i think has been a steady backlash both male and female. we have to remember and i'm sure it's in your book that the women's movement in the 60s started because the antiwar movement males were just leaving them out. they were not letting them run anything and one of them said i got mad when tom hayden got off the plane and handed me his dirty laundry and say clean it create so we have had this back and forth for a long time. >> before we take questions i do want to ask you a very current question that may not seem important but i think it does give us something interesting in the culture. you know cheryl sandberg of facebook has launched his campaign with the girl scouts head to ban the word bossy as an adjective that is used for girls i'm really curious whether you think this is an orwellia