there is that sort of resolution where -- george bernard shaw talks about you have to reject reason toovate. you have to say, we understand this is reasonable. this is what people believe. but i am actually going to ignore you completely. and if you are a fairly sensible person and ignoring smart people is really difficult, the values of it are terribly important. they are easy to talk about. but there are behaviors that are necessary to turn those values into real products. charlie: what are those behaviors? jony: it is that resolution, that determination. those behaviors that can so easily be misinterpreted by people who have not got a clue about developing products, that sort of unreasonable drive, drive, drive. that decision to ignore expert opinion. that happens every single time we do something that is new. charlie: here is what i found out about artists. artists, they study. you go to a museum. you go to a painting. and they are looking at the labor that went into creating the painting, more than the vision, how that color was conceived. it is almost like a journeyman worker hav

george bernard shaw said that could not be a food shortage in the ussr and this was right after stalin's forced collective agriculture killed six ukrainians. when i was the age of some of the students, i was in economics major and i took a course called comparative economic systems and two other writers were marxist economists. and they're probably the most influential marxist economists of the 20th century. cuba as aed coming as paradise garden where agricultural problems would melt away at a gigantic economic surplus. about cuba come you come away from cuba's communist with your faith in the human race restored because of their peer find an liberating experiences and the final quote is from norman mailer. "i announced to the city all a york and he gave us sense that there were heroes in the world. these are movers and shakers, important people. i called them the utopians. they had some vision of socialist utopia and they condemned capitalism by praising these alternatives and they are imaginary alternatives. they saw what was going on in russia, cuba, china. they got away with it for a

and i-- and so there's a-- there's that sort of resolution where-- i mean george bernard shaw talked about how you have to rejest-- reject reason to innovate am you have to say we understand. this is all very reasonable. this is what people believe. but you know what, i'm actually going to ignore you completely. and if you are a fairly sensitive person, ignoring very smart people is really difficult. and so the values are terribly important. and they're easy to talk about. but there are behaviors that are necessary to actually turn those values into real products. and so i think-- . >> rose: what are those behaviors? >> it is that resolution, that determination. those behaviors that can so easily be misinterpreted by people who haven't got a clue about developing products. that sort of unreasonable drive, drive, drive. that decision to ignore expert opinion. that happens every single time we do something that's new. >> this is what i found out about artists. artists, they study. you go to a museum with an artist, and you go to a painting. and they are looking at the labor that went i

you have a classic selection, george bernard shaw's nature barber. the college of concordia having an interesting book about modern china, the narrative of frederick douglass is a classic work. johnson edwards editing the diary of david brainerd. you have good book says honorable mention. it is not impossible to choose them and they are working right now for too few of these colleges. the point is they do exist and they do seem to be working. therefore we do have some recommendations for what can be done better. we would like to get rid of the extra curricular goals and make it academic goals, don't worry about building community. how do you text, they have a goal that is impossible to tell, confined to academic goals, actually be able to tell what you are doing is working. we would like them to have smaller committees composed entirely of people who love books that have a great experience of it. we would like them to integrate the reading into class es. you can test for swimming knowledge, you can test for whether you read a book over the summer. it

you have a classic selection-utah valley university on george bernard shaw's major barter. the college of concordeyea about modern china. you have a narrative of frederick douglass, a classic work. it is not possible to choose them. and they are working right now for far too few indeed. and they do exist and they do seem to be working. therefore, the extracurricular goal, don't worry about building the community. they set themselves a goal, whether they succeeded at it. confining academic goal, tell what you are doing. we would like them to have smaller committees composed entirely of people, who have a great experience of it. we would like them to integrate reading in to classes. you can do that, you can test for whether you read a book over the summer. we have recommendation that might be better to make the college admissions process collective. if you can get the current student body to be able to be willing to read, able to read, in the four years, make your admission tighter. we have some confidence in students and colleges, we do actually think simply going to the bes