but, yes, it's very similar to the one that george brant would have started all those years ago. >> ande was a whaler. >> and he was a whaler, yes, yes. >> a question, when was photography first available for recording whaling. that's a good question. >> whoa. that i do not know. when did photography -- i don't know. i really don't know, sorry. >> we'd have to probably look at our own photography collection. i think the earliest things we have are around early 1840s. >> okay. >> their ear mostly portraits at that time. i think it's probably difficult to take things on the ship. it's a very good question. we should probably look into that. >> right. great question. >> was it unusual to go around both capes on a single voyage? >> i think it was fairly unusual. i think once nantucketers discovered the rich whaling grounds in the pa siflk, the quickest route would be to go generally kind of across the atlantic, maybe make stops in the azores, cape verde islands and then along the eastern coast of south america and down around the horn and then up into the whaling grounds of the south pacifi