when we ask who george chidi is, he's a freelance journalist. he's important to this case, though, he's somebody who unexpectedly discovered this meeting of georgia's alternate electors, the slate of 16 fake republican electors, meeting in the state capitol. he talks about a rather dramatic scene where he walked in. he was ushered from the room, told it was a meeting about education. but we do know that obviously the d.a. is going to present that as part of her evidence. it's something that she's looking into, the slate of fake electors. giuliani's presentation before lawmakers, before state lawmakers, we saw two of those state lawmakers complete their testimony early today. so, katy, what this is doing, all of this is giving us pieces of a puzzle that tell us, one, how she's making this case before the grand jury, and again, two, that timing that is moving faster than expected. >> beyond george chidi, who have we seen going into the courthouse today and what do we expect is happening behind those closed doors? >> we know a former state senator,

george chidi's recent piece for atlanta magazine is headlined "the real behind the wall: a look insidethe infamous, deadly fulton county jail." george, welcome to democracy now! before we go to why you were subpoenaed and you're stumbling upon the fake electors meaning, let's talk about where president donald trump is turning himself in on thursday. the fulton county jail you have investigated so well. explain what this jail is all about, why it is so notorious. >> it is notorious in part because a lot of people are getting killed in. before the pandemic, the jail might have two or three deaths in a year. last year, there were 15. they are up to seven this year, four in the last 30 days. the conditions are terrible. the infrastructure is falling apart. the infrastructure is actually difficult to repair because repair people are afraid to go in because the level of supervision isn't safe in their opinion. the medical services provider pulled out and had to be dragged back in by the county. they have a tremendous staffing problem. which is sort of emblematic of what is going on in law en

one of those witnesses is george chidi, an independent journalist here in atlanta, who's kind of beent live tweeting his experience of this, talking about waiting in the hallway, talking about talking with another witness, former lieutenant governor jeff duncan we just saw right there. so is getting bits and pieces of what this process looks like. again, the biggest update on timing, according to my sources, with knowledge of these proceedings izzy grand jury is currently voting. symone? >> so, the grand jury is voting right now, blayne. what happens after that? walk us -- what have your sources told you about the chain of events once the grand jury comes to this? >> reporter: we are watching every corner of this house. so what we understand is going to happen that because of georgia law, georgia law requires that a moment an indictment is handed up, it has to be unsealed. there's no lack period. there's no waiting period. that unsealing process, essentially it looks like taking the indictment over to the presiding judge, in this case it is judge robert mcburney who's overseeing much

independent journalist george chidi showed up a little while ago.es got moved up. maybe it's about trying to wrap up witness testimony today. the other option, of course, is the grand jury is trying to finish this whole thing today. it's possible they could hand out indictments. we're waiting to see, jake. >> elie, is this something that happens often on the days when prosecutors are presenting to grand juries. >> it's pretty unusual. usually if you have a grand jury scheduled to go home at 5:00, they'll leave at 5:00 because they have child care responsibilities and other things. if they're kept after that, that tells me that something unusual is happening. now, the grand jury is there to serve the court. so if they're needed to stay after, they'll be told that and they'll make it work. but this is not business as usual. this is unusual, but also not entirely unheard of. >> all right, elie honig and sara murray, thanks for the update. >>> in our national lead, a raid on a kansas newspaper sparked concerns about police violating the first amendment.

the other is independent journalist george chidi. appear before this grand jury today. obviously, this is an indication that this case is moving pretty quickly before the grand jury. we had expected this grand jury presentation to take up to two days. but again, she seems to be consolidating the days for these witnesses to appear. it's an indication that we could see indictments as early as later today. we don't know that. this could still take until tomorrow, but we certainly are going to be on high alert for any potential charges emerging today or tomorrow. >> sara, is there a time limit for that happening today? in other words, would it have to happen before close of business if it were to happen today? >> reporter: well, look, what we are expecting to happen is that whenever the grand jury hands up these indictments, whether it is today, whether it is tomorrow, that they will become public very quickly after that. so we don't exactly know, again, like when that is going to be, but we would not expect this necessarily to be someth

showing up on tuesday. >> now, you have interviewed k george chidi and talked to him. that's going to be the second witness, as you just said. what should people know about him? >> george chidi is an interesting one because he is a democrat but also an independent journalist and accidentally stumbled on this meeting of the fake electors at the capitol in georgia. you know, he sort of felt like something fishy was going on, followed people around, got kicked out of the room where they were meeting, was told it was an education meeting. come to find out it's the meeting they were voting for donald trump as, you know, these sort of fake electors, even though joe biden won the state. he already testified before the special grand jury that collected evidence. so prosecutors know what he is going to say with they put him before this regular grand jury that they are going to ask for an indictment but he sheds light on the secrecy around this meeting and what folks were up to even though they eventually came out of the meeting and sort of admitted what they were doing. >> you

george chidi, of course you've heard that name a lot. to come and testify. he's been kind of live-tweeting this of sorts. first he said he was coming in early ahead of his time originally assigned tomorrow. and then he said that he's sitting in the hallway, he's sitting right next to geoff duncan, the former lieutenant governor here in georgia, says he likes the guy. he said they're talking about everything but the grand jury proceedings. but the bottom line is neither of them have testified yet. we still have two witnesses along with a possible three more. so that just kind of tells us we could be in for a long night here in front of the courthouse. >> blayne, you've covered fani willis. is there anything about her moving duncan and the independent journalist to today from tomorrow that tells you that she's eager to sort of accelerate her own timetable, or are you just reading this into sort of grand jury management? >> you know, i think it shows, one, yes, they are trying to accelerate this. all along we kind of thought that a case of

among them, george chidi, a freelance journalist who happened on the fake electors, voting for themselves and signing fake electors in georgia. he spoke about why he was testifying in this case. here's what he said -- >> the only r i'm doing this honestly is because i think thhe stakes are that important to democracy writs e in t united states. and becau ie this limita on what going to behat i'm going to be asked about. >> reporter: so the best we can tell that journalist, george chidi, is testifying as we speak. again, he wasn't expected to be here until tomorrow. so it's possible this timeline which we thought would lead to perhaps an indictment vote later in the week, maybe tomorrow, could be speeding up. >> garrett haake, live watching it all for us. thank you. >>> investigators in pennsylvania are trying to determine the cause of a dead house explosion.n. itit happenedd saturdayy mororn just easast off pittsbsburgh. five peoeople includingng a 12-year-r-old weree killed,, th homess were destroyeyed, and dos momore dadamaged. dodoorbell camamera videoeo cap the momoment of ththe b bla

tomorrow the grand jury will hear from former lieutenant governor jeff duncan and journalist george chidiboth who have been asked to testify. the former president has spent this morning and the weekend slamming the d.a. and her case saying he didn't tamper with the election. joining us now nbc news correspondent blayne alexander who is right outside the fulton county courthouse, and dave aronberg, state attorney for palm beach county, florida. what to we know about how today and this week will play out near where you are? >> reporter: we're already seeing a lot of movement. we've been watching the inside, the outside of the courthouse for the better part of the morning. this morning, though, we are starting to see some of the witnesses, some of the people that we know have been called to testify before the grand jury this week as part of fani willis's presentation. we have seen them in the courthouse walking toward the d.a.'s offices. the two of them are key people, two former state lawmakers here in georgia. both of them were in the presentations, these kind of now infamous presentations

central to the probe georgia's former republican lieutenant governor geoff duncan and journalist george chidi confirm they have been called tuesday to appear before grand jury. >> saturday afternoon i received a phone call from the da's office, one of their investigators to tell me that i should come in tuesday. >> reporter: chidi providing nbc news this image of what he says was a secret meeting at the state capitol on december 14th, 2020 >> i walked in with cameras blazing and was almost immediately escorted out of the room i was told it was an education meeting. which is, very apparently now, not what was happening there >> reporter: trump isn't the only one in jeopardy legal experts say prosecutors may use a georgia organized crime law to potentially charge more than a dozen of his allies. >> they don't want to take the risk of going to jail for five years, and they may decide to flip and cooperate with the government against donald trump. >> a possible arraignment in georgia could be very different from what we've seen in the former president's other cases, correct? >> reporter: that's r

the grand jury, including former gop lieutenant governor geoff duncan and independent journalist george chidi who said they will testified tuesday. >> have you been asked to testify before the grand jury this week? >> if i am called, when i am called, i will tell the truth. >> reporter: gabe sterling is a top deputy with the secretary of state. >> we've been saying this over and over, we counted the ballots three times. he lost the state, and he continues to say he didn't lose it. and it's just creating a lot of tension and a lot of chaos. >> that was nikole killion reporting. >>> the wife of an assassinated presidential candidate in ecuador is speaking out. fernando villavicencio was shot multiple times and killed last week as he stepped into a car at a campaign rally. he'd campaigned against cartels and corruption. his widow wore a bulletproof vest and a helmet when she told reporters over the weekend that she believes her life and the lives of her children are also in danger. she said she holds the state directly responsible for her husband's murder. six colombian nationals have been arres

among the witnesses called earlier than expected, george chidi, a freelance journalist, who stumbled into a meeting of fake trump electors at the state capitol. posting, "change of plans, i'm going to court today. they're moving faster than they thought." and there are also reports tonight that former georgia lieutenant governor geoff duncan, a conservative republican, was also told to be ready earlier than expected to testify. donald trump posting on social media just today telling duncan not to testify. the former president also posted new attacks about the prosecutor today. he has tried unsuccessfully to kick her off the case. she will need to convince 12 of 23 grand jurors that trump and others should be criminally charged. among the key pieces of evidence at the center of the case, the phone call from the former president to georgia's secretary of state, brad raffesnberger, pleading with him to find the votes. >> so, look, all i want to do is this, i just want to find 11,780 votes, which is one more than we have, because we won the state. >> reporter: trump asking republican off

governor geoff duncan and george chidi, a journalist and fox atlanta contributor who stumbled into a meeting of alternate trump electors at the state capitol. trump has signaled he expects to be indicted but denies any wrongdoing. >> we don't take plea deals because i did nothing wrong. >> reporter: campaigning in iowa this weekend, he stood firm in his false claims about the last election. >> a lot of bad things took place during that election. >> reporter: the grand jury getting ready to convene here, they put these orange barriers around the courthouse. by tomorrow, the street in front will be closed. the prospect of an indictment in a fourth case for trump does not appear to be hurting him politically. he has a big lead, according to the polls, against his republican rivals. and he campaigned this weekend in iowa, boasting of a big lead. linsey. >> aaron katersky, our thanks to you. >> linsey: turning to politics now, the crowded republican field is vying for attention. the first republican debate just ten days away. former vice president mike pence will be there, but will former

joining me now, independent journalists, george chidi. d in december of 2020 at the republican, quote, education meeting. i put that in quotes because i'm sure you're going to explain why. >> sure thing. so let's look at this. i was there because i was concerned that there would have been an election, bylaws essentially. we've been seeing three percenters, and proud boys protesting at the capitol. i was there to bear witness. an old friend of mine, who we happen to be one of the republican electors, passed me in the hallway that day. the day that the election, the electoral vote was taking place. i followed him into a room with the camera going. it turns out that that was the room that the republican electors were meeting. they didn't want me there. i was there maybe 20 seconds before they hustled me out the door. hasn't been hustled out of the door, i asked, what kind of meeting is this? a woman there was spotted, this is an education meeting. then the close the door behind me. as a turns out, that seems to be significant. >> i obviously,

lieutenant governor geoff duncan has been told he should show up as well as independent journalist george chidiand again this has been the culmination of a two and a half-year investigation. fulton county district attorney has looked into everything from donald trump's infamous call to raffensperger where he asks raffensperger to find the votes needed to overturn the election to the fake elector scheme in georgia to efforts to harass local election officials as well as voting breach in rural coffee county, georgia. sources told us she may seek to bring charges against more than a dozen individuals when she does go before that grand jury next week. sara murray, cnn, washington. >> all right. coming up for us, after slow gains in the south, ukraine says it's making progress with the southern offensive. now cnn is getting a firsthand look from the front lines. >>> plus, it's being called a triple threat. states now bracing for what could be a rough season for rsv, covid, and the flu. >>> and it was a terrifying flight for those onboard after a united flight plunged towards the pacific ocean last y

one of those witnesses is an independent journalist named george chidi, who witnessed some of the fakero-trump electors meeting at the state house in atlanta in december 2020. another key figure who will head to the grand jury on tuesday is former georgia lieutenant governor geoff duncan. here's what he told our colleague, fredricka whitfield, on saturday. >> i did just receive notification to appear on tuesday morning at the fulton county grand jury, and i certainly will be there to do my part in recounting facts. i have no expectations as to the questions and i'll certainly answer whatever question's put in front of me. and certainly don't want to go any deeper than that to jeopardize or compromise the investigation. look, for me this is a story that is important for republicans to hear. americans to hear. let's hear the whole truth and nothing but the truth about donald trump's actions and the surrounding cast of characters around him. >> duncan, who is now a cnn contributor, is a republican and he was in office when trump tried to pressure georgia state officials to flip the result

there were two witnesses we expected to see tomorrow, independent journalist george chidi and geoff duncanwe learned both of them have been told to come in and testify today. it's clear the grand jury is moving at a faster clip than what the district attorney's office originally anticipated. >> question. do we know when the grand jury is scheduled to wrap up today? does that give us any indication as to when they might finish up their work for good? >> reporter: we don't have a clear deadline for when they may wrap up today. normally the courthouse behind me closes at 5:00 p.m. when this grand jury is hearing the normal array of cases, it's not unusual for them to be done by 1:00 or 2:00 in the afternoon. it does not seem like that's what's likely to happen today. it seems like they're going to be here at least for a couple more hours. we're waiting for any indications that things are winding down. again, we're expecting two more witnesses. >> sara, thanks so much. elena, as the jury portion of this nears its conclusion, trump has been attacking it on social media but also it seems applyin

governor geoff duncan and journalist george chidi to testify tuesday before the grand jury investigatingonald trump's efforts to overturn georgia's 2020 election. he is believed to have stumbled upon a meeting of trump supporting fake collectors at georgia state capitol. he was thrown out of the meeting. a fourth indictment against former president trump and his co-conspirators is widely expected from georgia this week. with possibly as many as 12 people indicted. and in other news from georgia, activists campaigning to get a public referendum on cop city has gotten 80,000 signatures, surpassing the minimum number needed to get the measure on the november ballot. the "vote to stop cop city" has set a stretch goal of 100,000 signatures before it submits the petition next monday. and those are some of the headlines. this is democracy now!, democracynow.org, the war and peace report. when we come back, we go to maui where the death toll from the devastating fires have climbed to 96 with a number expected to be far higher in the deadliest wildfire in over a century in the united states. stay

well, i mean, george chidi is an independent journalist in atlanta.e interviewed him for a documentary we did about the georgia case, and he sort of stumbled upon the republican fake electors meeting at the georgia state capitol. he essentially got kicked out of the room where they were meeting. he was told they were meeting about an education matter, which of course was not the case. he's somebody who already testified before the special grand jury, again, the one that was collecting evidence but that couldn't issue indictments in georgia about what he saw. so he's an important witness for fani willis in regards to her inquiry in the fake elector probe. when you look at jen jordan, who is this former democratic state senator, she's the one who, again, was a state senator in december 2020 when rudy giuliani and this whole band of trump allies showed up and made a presentation before state lawmakers that was riddled with conspiracy theories. we know that's another element of this that fani willis has been looking at in her investigation. again, jen jor

. >> reporter: george chidi is a democrat and a local georgia journalist who reports on politics andtlanta objective." he covered the far right groups that descended on the georgia capitol for stop the steal rallies after the 2020 election. >> and this -- like they'd filled the stairs and they're talking about taking over the capitol. then i started to think, all right, what exactly are you going to do? there was a conversation that was happening in right-wing spaces about disrupting the electoral count. so i went to the capitol on december 14th. >> if you would please complete your ballots. >> reporter: december 14th was the date that the state's electors all across the country would meet to certify their vote. that day trump narrowed in on georgia. "could have been easy," he tweeted to the state governor. "now we have to do it the hard way." prosecutors say this trump tweet and 11 others contributed to the conspiracy to overturn georgia's election results. >> while the tweets themselves standing alone in isolation are not necessarily criminal, the argument the prosecutors will make

fulton county courthouse, including two former democratic state legislatures as well as journalist george chidi who was subpoenaed for witnessing a meeting at the georgia state capitol where trump supporters signed documents falsely claiming trump won the election. chidi told nbc news he was called to appear before the grand jury today after previously told he didn't have to show up until tomorrow. he also posted on social media, quote, change of plans. going to court today. they're moving faster than they thought. same goes for former lieutenant governor geoff duncan who according to the atlanta journal constitution also met with grand jurors today. ahead of schedule. which of course, brings us to the trump of it all, trump is doing what he always does, lashing out at his perceived enemies by putting out all cap screeds. that includes a tirade against geoff duncan who is trump critic and trying to intimidate him by saying the former lieutenant governor of georgia shouldn't testify. today, trump attacked d.a. willis, also went after tanya chutkan, the judge in the january 6th case, calling her

another witness, george chidi, an independent journalist also scheduled to come tomorrow was also called in this afternoon. earlier today the grand jury heard from two former georgia lawmakers, both of these women state senators, both democrats. they both went in, expected to testify about a presentation that they received from former trump lawyer rudy giuliani that was ladened with conspiracy theories. these are all the witnesses that district attorney fani willis was expected to call, presenting her case laying out this conspiracy theory to overturn the election in georgia. we anticipated this would take two days. at this point it's unclear if they'll be able to move forward with possible indictments today or continue tomorrow. like you said, the courthouse closes at 5:00. we know they're still in there. >> it's after 5:00 right now. paula, walk us through what happens if the grand jury decides to indict donald trump and/or any of his allies. >> reporter: we expect the indictment also be for over a dozen people. the former president's lawyers say they do expect he will be among those i

one of the witnesses is george chidi and in 2020 he witnesses some of the fake pro-trump electors meetingn the state house in atlanta. another key figure who will head to the grand jury this tuesday is former georgia lieutenant governor jeff duncan. here is what he told our colleague fredricka whitfield yesterday before the subpoena. >> i did just receive notification to appear on tuesday morning at the fulton county grand jury and i will be there to do my part in recounting facts. i have no expectations as to the questions and i'll answer any questions that were put in front of me and i don't want to jeopardize the investigation. this is a story that is important for republicans to hear, americans to hear. let's hear the whole truth and nothing but the truth about donald trump's action and the surrounding cast of characters around him. >> dungeon who is now a cnn contributor was a republican and was in office when trump tried to pressure state officials to flip the results and overturn the will of the georgia voters. fani willis, an elected democrat, launched a probe in 2021. the investi

we have on the record now that the former lieutenant governor geoff duncan and george chidi have beenabout a potential indictment of not only donald trump but also members of his close inter orbit. >> if it ends up not being tuesday it could be later this week. so if that does happen, what are some charges that are possible against trump and who else might face them? >> yeah, we're looking at a potential rico charges involving donald trump and some of his allies. we know that fani willis is a rico expert, she's used that state statute in georgia successfully in atlanta public schools cheating trial about a decade ago. we also know that her investigation has spread far beyond donald trump to members of the stake electors, to supporters who went down to a rural are georgia county, coffey county to copy election data, to other members of donald trump's inter circle including his former attorney rudy giuliani. we expect this to be a pretty broad and sweeping indictment if it actually comes out this week shoo we should note of course that this would be a state charge and in the hypothetica

and charles d george chidi is the third.e says he believes they were trying to conceal something from him when they told him it was an education meeting and his words they frog marched him out of the room. so perhaps the strongest indications yet this sprawling investigation which has been going on more than a year is perhaps close to an end. >> victor. >> nick valencia, thank you. >> thanks. >>> on capitol hill, many house republicans ever are saying it's a foregone inclusion that president biden will face an impeachment inquiry this fall. speaker mccarthy has been insistent to reporters, a decision has not been made to open a form apinquiry and evidence is still being gathered hoo last night on fox -- >> i raised it on this show not long ago because the actions of the biden administration with holding information that that would rise to the level where we need impeachment inquiry to give the strength of the congress, to get the information we need to give to the american public and follow through on our constitutional auth

one of those witnesses is an independent journalist named george chidi.20, he actually witnessed some of the fake pro-trump electors meeting in the statehouse in atlanta. another key figure who heads to the grand jury this tuesday is former georgia lieutenant governor geoff duncan. here is what he told fredricka whitfield yesterday. >> i received notification to appear tuesday morning at the fulton county grand jury. i will be there to do my part in recounting the facts. i have no expectations to the questions and i will answer kpafr questions in front of me and don't want to jeopardize or compromise the investigation. this is a story important for republicans to hear, americans to hear. let's hear the truth and nothing but the truth. >> duncan, now a cnn contributor, is a republican and he was in office when trump tried to pressure state officials to nip the results and overturn the will of the georgia voters. fulton county district attorney fani willis, an elected democrat, launched the criminal probe in 2021. the investigation has steadily expanded ove

george chidi, a local journalist who uncovered the fake elector plot had said he was scheduled to testify

. >> george chidi is a democrat and a local georgia journalist who reports on politics and crime in hisovered the far-right groups that descended on the georgia capitol for stop the steal rallies after the 2020 election. >> and this -- like they'd filled the stairs, and they're talking about taking over the capitol. then i started to think, all right, what exactly are you going to do? there was a conversation that was happening in right-wing spaces about disrupting the electoral count. so i went to the capitol on december 14th. >> if you would please complete your ballots. >> reporter: december 14th was the date that the state's electors all across the country would meet to certify their vote. >> i thought maybe the 3% militia or some other group were going to show up to do something stupid, and i wanted to bear witness. >> so did you see any of those types when you got to the georgia state capitol? >> i didn't. >> reporter: what chidi did see was a conservative activist who he recognized from his reporting. >> hey. why are you here? he really didn't make eye contact with me, and he wen

into sharper focus when former georgia lieutenant governor jeff duncan and independent journalist george chidi separately confirmed they had received notifications they will testify on tuesday. now, this means the public might know by tuesday whether jurors indict the ex president. tuesday evening, to be specific. willis is expected to begin her presentation to grandeurs on monday. we're gonna have more on this breaking development later in the show. but we first began with a reality check for the now the race undated ex president. donald clump trump, quote, as a criminal defendant. he's gonna have restrictions like any other criminal defendant. those were the words of judge tanya chutkan. the federal judge overseeing special counsel jack smith's election interference case against, trump and hearing yesterday that she rejected trump's request to be able to speak more broadly and publicly about the investigation. in a new productive order, chutkan limited the ex president and attorneys from publicly discussing, any, quote, sensitive material -- that includes, quote, any personally identified in

journalist george chidi and former lieutenant governor jeff duncan both announcing their pending testimonies on twitter. duncan writing i look forward to answering their questions around the 2020 election. republicans should never let honesty be mistaken for weakness. the fulton county georgia courthouse already on high alert. the barricades blocking the building from traffic. the bomb sniffing dogs inspecting vehicles. trump, meanwhile, is proclaiming his innocence on the campaign trail. here's what he told nbc's vaughn hillyard when he was asked about a possible plea deal in georgia. >> any chance you take a plea deal in georgia? >> -- yes, sir. >> -- it's a wise guy question. we don't take plea deals. >> trump's commentary on the criminal cases are under review for the d. c. judge. friday, they restricted how the judge can handle evidence in the election interference trial. a, reminder trump will face consequences for threatening his perceived enemies if he does. so quote, the more party makes inflammatory statements about this case which could change the jury pool or intimidate potential

i do think it is interesting that, you know, you heard from george chidi, he was the journalist who was subpoenaed in all of this. and he said that he never actually had to go in there and testify. so that certainly signals that the d.a., her team, essentially thought that they had all they needed in order to go ahead and put it to a vote and get a true dilemma charge, rachel. >> and in terms of how this evening is likely to go obviously, blayne, it is the clerks office that has these indictments. and we expect that one that is from whence we receive the. that is when the office we release this indictment to the public. we've also been told to expect that fani willis will make remarks, that you will stick to the press and therefore the public, about these indictments do we expect for sure that that would be this evening, even if it's quite late when the courts office finished processing these documents? office f inished processing these document>> i think that'se possible, rachel. i'm watching two places to find out what's -- when is the courts office, but number two, any sort of releas

greg, you stumbled upon that same fake lector's meeting with george chidi. ion to the subpoenas? >> george called me to ask if i had been subpoenaed too, because this is part of the scrutiny from prosecutors into the fake elector scheme in georgia. i can tell you, a couple days before the republican electors gathered, i called several of them to see if they were meeting and i was told no, there wouldn't be a gathering. so i was startled, george was startled. both of us were kicked out of that meeting. we were both told by republican officials that it was just an educator's meeting. i took a picture of it, tweeted about it. shortly after we tweeted ant it, it was open to the public. at the time, it was held under secrecy. and we know now that trump's campaign officials instructed electors to keep it secret, not just from reporters but also even state troopers stationed at the capitol. that is the secrecy that they operated under. >> let me reaffirm for you something that chidi wrote. he writes -- >> what do you expect chid-to-share with the fulton grand jury a