and unlike george conway they've been in large measure very quiet about it which i think that paragraphad is partly a criticism of others who have not spoken out and i think george has felt the need to speak out. he was very upset by this essor calabrese made and that that the president started tweeting about. and i asked him to write up his thoughts on the subject which he did. so there's no -- i mean the answer is michelle ssh right. some people do not the instinct to keep their mouth shut about what is going on right now. and i say kudos to george conway and by the way, the real question we s be asking is not why george conway is is speaking out. it's why other people who have a lot less to protect are not speaking out. >> yeah, if you're not putting your marriage on the line. why are you not saying anything. the other thing that's happening, simmering in the background it feels like there's a little calm before the storm feeling in terms of what happens it if michael cohen is right. this story from fox news which is basically about the behind thescopies and clearly coming from nunes

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george conway has had a lot to say about president trump, aides are often undercut. eted, so true, it's absurd which is why people are banging down the door to be his comes director. in maye told director he told the president with a tweet after fcc rules after he had reimbursed his attorney michael cohen $130,000 for porn star stormy daniels and now his latest, the terrible arguments against the constitutionality of the mueller investigation. a response to president trump's continued declaration that mueller appointmentas unconstitutional. the arguments made against the special counsel do not meet that standard and have more rigor than the tweet that promoted them. such a lack of rigor has been a disturbing trend in the public discourse about the law lately. joining me now is joe myselfen, former white house ethics czar and walter sch former director government ethics under president trump. walter, what's going on here? >> conway has been a fairly consistent critic of the president. he doesn't seem to share his wife's views. he was, at one point, up for nsideration t

george conway, a prominent attorney publishing this stunning law article this week, the title here, "the terrible arguments against the constitutionality of the mueller investigation." conway also retweeting pretty harsh criticism of president trump's signed agreement with north korean dictator kim jong un. rick wilson is back. rick, to you first. between these tweets, these retweets, this 3,500 word column published monday, does he know he's married to a woman who works for trump? why is he doing this? >> george conway is a well regarded guy who understands the law, federal society background and his case is pretty unassailable. i'm not an attorney but he's clearly a good one. my recommendations to george are you should probably get a food guest bedroom because he is married to the queen of the trump cult over there. this is something that he needs to be -- i'm not going to get into their family business, no one knows the secret terrain of any marriage. he clearly sending some sharp, investigation and on the rule of law more broadly. >> well, you are a lawyer. so legallyspeaking, wha

we noticed this in the past that george conway, very esteemed american conservative lawyer, married tomeone that was thought to be a potential solicitor general in the trump administration has been increasingly open with his criticism of president trump, his wife's boss, mostly on twitter. and it was the beginning of the administration it was a murmur. he's become much more outspoken. but this is the first time he's uncorked a full-on attack not on president trump but on president trump's enablers on an argument that president trump embraced which he comes down fully in support of the constitutionality the appointment of bob mueller but also an argument about the silence of other conservative legal scholars who by their silence are complicit in a lot of bad constitutional arguments the president is embracing in order to attack bob mueller, the fbi, the justice department and others. >> when it comes to the legal argument, mika, it's not a close call. >> it's not. >> george conway is on the side of the supreme court. he's on the side of precedent. it's very important. and i do think the

and unlike george conway they've been in large measure very quiet about it which i think that paragrapht spoken out and i think george has felt the need to speak out. he was very upset by this particular legal argument that professor calabrese made and that the president started tweeting about. and i asked him to write up his thoughts on the subject which he did. so there's no -- i mean the answer is michelle ssh right. some people do not have the instinct to keep their mouth shut about what is going on right now. and i say kudos to george conway and by the way, the real question we should be asking is not why george conway is is speaking out. it's why other people who have a lot less to protect are not speaking out. >> yeah, if you're not putting your marriage on the line. why are you not saying anything. the other thing that's happening, simmering in the background it feels like there's a little calm before the storm feeling in terms of what happens it if michael cohen is right. this story from fox news which is basically about the behind thescopies and clearly coming from nunes' peop

. >> i hold, joyce -- there was a great -- i think it was george conway wrote a gray law fair column saying you know when donald trump goes out and balla about this, we hold him to a different standard. we hold non-lawyers to a different standard. there was somebody who was like talking about how unconstitutional robert mueller's investigation. and it would be you one thing if it was donald trump but this was one of the cofounders of the society so he should be ashamed of himself in the words of former chief justice renquist -- he is an officer of the court. i consider somebody who's been a lawyer an officer of the court. for an officer of the court to lie like that, and he knows what investigations are like. he understands that robert mueller is moving at a fast and furious pace, and he understands that he's in the middle of investigation that his move with ruthless efficiency over the past year. trey gowdy knows better. >> there are two things that really stand out here. first thing is how quickly mueller has moved. every federal prosecutor will tell you that public corruption case

. >> laura: kellyanne conway's husband, george, i've known him for many years. he's brilliant, we thought he might be sg at the justice department, he would have made a great one. he has written an article for the hill that he basically says, this argument about the unconstitutionality of the statute, he just smashes calabrese's argument. he buys into the appointments clause out argument here, and he just destroys that. is there any concern about that at the white house? >> no concern about it. >> laura: we don't have to agree on everything here. [laughs]ay >> methods clear of an argument as let's say their ability to indict, or even their ability to subpoena, as it is true in article two. t >> laura: have you written a brief on that? >> more or less. however, i would think, maybe he -- it's an undecided question, so how can conway decide? maybe heants him on the supreme court, but i don't think you will get the appointment. b >> laura: i w like, george e -- >> george is not getting on the supreme court, i can pick predict that. 1 i'm not as big of a fan of pros

and clearly by the comey memo, we have to see what horowitz says tomorrow. aura: kellyanne conway's husb george,e known him for many y. he's brilliant, we thought he might be sg at the justice department, he would have made a great one. he has written an article the hill that he basically says, this argument about the unconstitutionality of the statute, he just smashes calabrese's argument. he buys into the appointments clause out argument here, and he just destroys that. is there any concern about that at the white house? >> no concern about it. feeling you don't have to agree on everything. [laughs] >> methods clear of an argument the to indict, or even their ability to subpoena, as it is true in article two. >> laura: have you written a brief on that >> more or less. however, i would think, maybe he wants him out of supreme court but i don't think you will get the appointment. >> i was lik george is like -- >> george is not upremecaredict that. >> laura: is their concern about -- let's go back to cohen for a minute. i'm not as big of a fan of prosecutors, but i'm not as big of a fan of prose

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george martin, always great to talk to you. thank you for getting up early for us. >> my pleasure, alisyn. thank you. >>> the president plans to continue his battle with the nfl through the midterms. kellyanne conway next to talk more on that. >>> but first an nfl player's surprising second act after getting side lined by an injury. here's today's "turning points." >>> it's different than memorizing the football play. >> i was 5 years old when we moved from tonga to the u.s. i know that the only way for me to make it to college was through football. i went to a university and that's where i played and i got drafted. i was with the cleveland browns for a year and then the franchise moved to baltimore and became the baltimore ravens. my injury in the nfl that took me out of the sport was, i broke the arch of my foot. i had no idea what i was going to do. this small voice came in me and said, move to new york and go and sing. ♪ >> i decided that i'm going to go into the restaurant business right across the street from the met. i wanted to meet opera singers to study them. i worked at the restaurant for three years and then moved on to jewelard. i've sung in italy, germany, denmark. the most satisfact