joining me is george conway. getting impeached twice. why is that? >> absolutely. because it goes to his business. impeach. ment -- this is his private life. this is what he had to go back to, which is running his private business. now ten years of financial statements have been pulled by the accountants saying you cannot rely on them, which raises all sorts of potential collateral issues for the trump organization. it could be debt covenants that say you have to keep providing us on an annual basis audited financial statements or reliable financial statements that are looked over by an account tonaccountant. they're all gone. they're worthless to him. it's ten years worth. that's just remarkable. this is about as calamitous a thing as could happen to a business as you could imagine, other than being indicted and going bankrupt. this could lead to going bankrupt. >> what about getting indicted? is he in a worse legal situation? >> of course, yeah. it's highly problematic. now you have the accounting firm say sayi

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. >> tonight, the fallout from the ex president's stunning admission and george conway on when it means for the prosecutors investigating trump. and the brazen takeover of an election board and georgia where republicans are canceling key voting dates, plus, -- >> absolutely. i get things wrong, but i try to correct them. >> how the pressure on spotify has got response from the biggest stars and has a turn vaccine resistance into celebrities, the brutal tragic reality of their anti-vax advocacy that fox news refuses to tell. what's next for you? other than being a celebrity now. what's next for you? >> when all in starts right now. good evening from new york. i'm chris hayes. donald trump wants the world to know that he's a clear and present danger to american democracy. after a near miss he's mounting a second attack. i'm not connecting the dots or reading into anything that comes as a conclusion, but on a weirdest and yet strangely inoculated things about donald trump is that he just comes out and says when he's up to. that's exactly what he did at a rally in texas this weekend when he

. >> that's lawyer george conway that his accounting firm said it's cutting ties with donald trump.n years of financial statements. they wrote, we have not concluded the various financial statements maintain material discrepancies, we believe our advice to you to no longer rely upon those financial statements is appropriate. joining me now is early start anchor and attorney at law laura jarrett and cnn chief legal analyst jeffrey toobin. very quickly, is this common for a firm to dump a client like this? >> it's super uncommon. basically the way it works whether it's an individual or a company is the accountant goes to the company, the client and says give me the financial records and i will prepare a financial statement, a tax return based on the information you gave me. what that legal mum bow jumbo in that letter in english means is that we don't trust the material that our client, the trump organization, gave us for ten years, so the product we came out with, the tax returns, the financial statements, are not reliable. garbage in, garbage out. we got garbage from the trump organ

joining us now a conservative lawyer, george conway. clearly this was vice president pence's strongest rebuke of the former president. i wish we played the applause at the federalist society, because it wasn't like there was a rousing standing ovation and he was carried out on the shoulders of the members of the federalist society after that. >> i'm not able to judge the amount of applause on the video. the conservative lawyers for the most part agree with pence and were appalled what happened january 6th and have no qualms about saying that. that is what happened with, you know, bill barr. bill barr went in. you know, to his credit you can criticize him for other things, but he told the president that no, you can't seize the ballot boxes or voting machines and he told the president to his face in the oval office, president trump that you lost the election and there is no base to claim fraud and he got screamed at it for it and all of the lawyersa the justice department that threatened to resign. that is why trump had a lousy set of law

george conway, we've been following developments for trump's white house for years. g with george marshall, founder and editor of talking points family. 's latest column, it's called, once again, drums defendants the brazenness of his crimes, and both join me now. george, i think you can probably attest to this. i was just a last back about how seriously white houses tend to take this stuff. they tend to be stuff full of lawyers, lawyers take complaints very seriously. people are very, very you, know, we'll kind of dotting the eye crossed his these presidential records. as a lawyer, what's your conclusion when you look at this constellation of facts that we are learning now? >> well, it just shows a remarkable disregard, and contempt for the rules that apply to everyone else. and that's, you know, that's a hallmark of donald trump. rules shouldn't apply to him. they don't apply to him if. they apply to him, it's unfair and grossly it's a political attack but the rule should always apply to someone else and they should lock her up, and that's just classic donald trump.

as george conway put it in his op-ed earlier today, it seems as if he may not be able to escape legalbility this time around. no more teflon don. but talk me through it because that was a pretty scathing statement from the judge. >> and it was one of many. he really -- it was a real new yorker opinion and a new york oral argument, and he beat him up very badly, as george conway puts it, you know, trump is quite an escape artist, but his escape routes are really unclear here. he can't play the delay game he's played with congress. they've got him on a 21-daytimeline. he will appeal but he has no real legal claims to stand on. the intermediate new york court and the highest court in new york will have a chance to enter a stay, even perhaps the u.s. supreme court, but you have to expect them to make quick work of it because all he's saying is, well, first, he's saying, i'm a president and it will really hurt me if i have to take the fifth. yeah. and then he's also saying, there's a parallel criminal investigation going on here, and if i have to be deposed in the civil one, it could hurt

it's just horrific. >> george conway, appreciate you being with us as always. thank you. >> thank you, anderson. >>> coming up we have new exclusive cnn reporting that seems to establish what one january 6th figure has been notoriously reluctant to pin down, namely exactly when did congressman jim jordan speak with the former president on january 6th? >>> and later, what to make economically and politically for president biden of today's unexpectedly strong job numbers. people everywhere living with type 2 diabetes are waking up to what's possible... with rybelsus®. the majority of people taking rybelsus® lowered their blood sugar and reached an a1c of less than 7. rybelsus® isn't for people with type 1 diabetes. don't take rybelsus® if you or your family ever had medullary thyroid cancer or have multiple endocrine neoplasia syndrome type 2, or if allergic to it. stop rybelsus® and get medical help right away if you get a lump or swelling in your neck, severe stomach pain, or an allergic reaction. serious side effects may include pancreatitis. tell your provide

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so to my mind it's sort of irrelevant >> it brings to mind the issue of the conway family, kellyanne and georgeas published disputing a couple of things and i just wanted to ask you about it so we can try to clear it up. in the essay you said they'd made a million dollar offer effectively for you to leave they say it's not true in the essay you also say you were effectively offered the job or told you were going to get the job of ceo of the company, that you were in line for that role they say that you were not offered the ceo position i don't know if you think that's splitting hairs in terms of the language they're using, but speak to it if you could >> i would say it's splitting hairs a little bit i would agree. i was not officially offered, but it was definitely the conversation that i was in line and i was the primary candidate. and i think all you have to do is look at the structure of the organization to understand in the chair i sat i was absolutely one of the most viable candidates so -- i don't dispute there was not an official offer. there were active conversations that i was the prim