george became famous. and as a kellyanne conway's on twitter and i now i guess on occasionally on tv. i just want to make it very clear, george's valves are not the donald trump or any political party. they were to me to love, honor, cherished but we moved to washington d.c. as a couple, as a family. both having accepted big jobs and present donald trump. people want to forget that or never know it or gloss it over. a very important part of the story of kellyanne conway. >> click you tell the story. i really should get to the parts i should stop right now and say you and i also another thing in common which is the reason why i couldn't stop reading your book and that is your ex-boss like my ex-boss called me into room with no in there, looked me in thee eye and said can you run this thing? could he be my campaign manager and you basically say would you think about it and call me back i also saw thathe the book i sad then i read on the front page i really wanted to call you, invite you over to sit on my porch. >> i will be there. h >> i want to go back. >> george had a big job. >> acce

i know there was a george because it was killing in fitzpatrick and then she became kellying conway. omething happened clearly. that's something was george. so i got the back story on george george also went to a law school. he's a lawyer like kelly and conway. he worked at a very prestigious firm. he was a partner. he was wealthy and well off, but you're also wealthy and well off. what a beautiful life in virginia while he had a beautiful life in new york sports sort of brought you two together. first of all, i was a little jealous of all the games. she went to i'm not gonna talk about that. but seriously, i mean the man took you to all of the best games and that just the world series, but the super bowl i mean, come on he has good taste. yes, and he treated you very well. but this is also in addition, you know, you're married you're in love, but i'm reading about the the pregnancy but the twins right? i've never been pregnant but here george throws a party and then announce that i yeah a mother's day that you two were expecting twins how and then he was in the hospital he was with y

that's where george became famous. as kellyanne conway's has been on twitter and i guess on tv occasionally on tv and look i just want to make very clear georges vows not to donald trump or any political party. they were to me to love honor and cherish. when we moved to washington d.c. as a couple as a family and accepted big jobs president donald trump. people seem to want to forget that are never know it or gloss it over. very important part of the story is -- >> host: you tell the story. look. i really should get to the part because i should stop right now and say you and i also have another thing in common which is a reason why i couldn't stop reading the book, and that is your ex-boss like my ex boss called me into a room with nobody in their look in the eye and said you know, can you run this thing? can you be my campaign manager? he basically said what do you think about it? call me back. i saw that. i also saw the in the book and i'm like oh god, then i wrote on the front page, i had to go back. as i started to read this book i real

tonight, george conway on the documents, and testimony that the committee is seeking in the subpoena of donald trump. then, why was the ex president, reportedly, keeping classified intelligence about iran, and china? explosive new details is the stolen documents at mar-a-lago. plus, the victims of the wrong desantis election fraud stunt has charges dropped. no referred to the doj from arizona, and an all in, starting right now >> good evening, from new york, i'm chris hayes. there's many crimes of donald trump stands accused, of many legal challenges he faces, the can be difficult to keep trap. there is, of course, the investigation into classified documents that he appears to have stolen, and hoarded, in the basement of his retirement home. we will be discussing that in just a moment. i've said before, and i will say again, trump's biggest crime, and i mean that in a late term -- transgression. his biggest issue was to facilitate a coup, and end american democracy as we know what. that is the big one. it is, where we think final, is final here. it is unanimously subpoena the ex pres

do you agree with george conway? >> i do, mika.n will donald trump be indicted and prosecuted. but i think this one is perhaps the straightforward option that people have been asking about. and i'll tell you why. it is a matter of the timing. the fact that they had the subpoena and then after getting the subpoena, where they were informed that these materials were a part of an ongoing criminal investigation, and that donald trump instructed someone to move them from one place where people were told they were to another place in order to conceal their location, it is direct evidence of obstructing justice, and it is said to obstruct justice, and despite the numerous cases we know, and the investigations in georgia, and everything potentially going on in new york, and obviously things looming with respect to what could come out of today's final january 6th hearing, all of those things set aside, this case, and what we have learned from the "washington post," yesterday, around donald trump's decision and instruction to move these docu

conservative lawyer and contributing columnist for "the washington post" george conway joins us.t is this a turning point in the wake of the january 6th insurrection? >> i wish it were. i wish people would pay more attention to what happened on january 6th and the underlying causes like the big lie of this. i'm afraid if january 6th itself hasn't caused as much consternation among some segments of the public that it should have, i am not sure that this one event, tragic and horrible as it was, is going to add to it. i fear that some of the rhetoric is still not going to be tamped down. i fear that the former president, who is probably going to run for re-election, if not only because of his own ego, but because he is seeking to avoid criminal liability, and he's -- you know, he is going to actually -- he is going to try to use fomenting violence as a form of defense. >> you think this kind of violence is going to continue? >> i am fearful that it will. and that's the thing that frightens me most about this. i don't know that this one incident, again, as terrible as it was and it

i knew there was a george because it was kellyanne fitzpatrick then she became kellyanne conway. mething clearly happened and that something was george. so i got the back story on george. george also went to a law school. he is a lawyer like kellyanne conway pretty worked in various prestigious firm. he was a partner. he was wealthy and well off. but you were also wealthy and well off with a beautiful life in virginia where he had a beautiful life in new york. spores sorta brought you two together but first bought us a little jealous of all the games you went to part i'm not going to talk about that but seriously, the man took you to all the best t games. and not just a world series but the super bowl. come on he has good taste. and he treated you very well. but this is also in addition you are married, you are in love. i am reading about the pregnancy with the twins, right question rick i have never been pregnant. then george throws a party and announced on mother's day that you two were expecting twins. and then he was in the hospital. he was with you at every birth. barely made

i know there was a george because it was kellyanne fitzpatrick and then she became kellyanne conway somethingom happened clearly and i that something was a george psych out the back story o on george. george also went to a law school. he's a lawyer like kellyanne conway. he worked at a very prestigious firm. he was a partner. he was wealthy and well off but you were you are also wealthy and well off, what a beautiful life in virginia while he had a beautiful life in new york. sports sort of brought you together. first of all i was little jealous of all the game you went to. not going to talkk about that. seriously, i mean the men took you to all of the best games and world series but the super bowl. he has good taste and he treated you very well but this is also an addition, you know, you are married, you are in love but in reading about the pregnancy with the twins, right? i have never been pregnant but here george throws a party and thenha announced that on mothers day that you two were expecting twins. he was in the hospital. he was with you at every birth. barely made it at the last birth.

they go to george conway who doesn't even fit in the visual on the camera.hey say now they have trump. he moved documents. he moved documents from here to here. they were all at mar-a-lago. but they were in this room and he moves it to his office over here. now we got him, see? because he moved his documents from here to here. it's only a matter of time until we indict him. who offered steele a million dollars. that guy needs to be indicted and anybody who was in on it. that to me was a failed bribe attempt. brian: in putting together the dossier, deshenko repeated hearsay to christopher steele, and it was financed by hillary clinton's camp. and they say we have to verify this. james comey all 6'9 inches of him has to meet with president-elect trump. he said i have to speak to you. i have this information i don't know if it's true or not. that poisoned the well for president trump and his intelligence information. and comey records president trump's reaction. so the question is, was comey duped? is he the queen of england, a figurehead, or was this an elabor

clintonen impeachment gets treatment as the new method is the post- reagan right and the role that george conwayd so where are they now? and gingrich was very reluctant to go for the impeachment he was actually making headway with bill clinton after the 96 election and then to think about how they can rollback social security and then when clinton comes under fire the investigation he's up to shore up the support among democrats, those talks go away. so gingrich sees real acopportunity but it's close by the impeachment and republicans andli conservatives who say everybody talks about impeachment but it is not aim great idea because what clinton was going to be impeached over was not that big of a deal. so there was a battle over impeachment is going to happen he's also reluctant because his own maritalal all record was not as clear as it could be. [laughter] so then when he decides to do it, he does it. it really does tap into his desire for political fight. >> i just want to jump ahead think ac a member of the mclaughlin group in the audience peaking at four.4 million viewers. >> it is so much

partly a new method of this neww post-reagan right, i didn't know for example the role that george conway plays. the index of this book is valuable for people to go through, where are they now. but talk about how -- and gingrich was reluctant to go for the clinton impeachment. >> yes, newt gingrich didn't want to be part of the impeachment athe first, he was making a lotak of headway with bill clinton. they are starting off after i think the '96 election they are setting down to think about how they can roll back social security. then when clinton comes undercl fire and when the investigation heats up and clinton has to shore up his support among democrats, those talks about away. newt gingrich sees real opportunity in working with clinton that is foreclosed by the impeachment. you have a lot of republicans, or conservatives including laura ingram who said everyone ise' talking about impeachment, that is not a great idea. in part because when clinton was going to b impeached offer over, wasn'ta big of a deal. there was a battle over impeachment is going to happen. that newt gingrich is re

i did not know for example the george conway played the index of this is very valuable for people to go through. where are theyy now? talk about how and gingrich was very reluctant initially to go for the clinton impeachment even though got associated with it later. >> gingrich did not want to be part of the impeachment at first he was make a lot of headway with bill clinton. they are starting off after the 96 election they are sitting down to start to think about how they can rollback social security. and then when clinton comes under fire, when the investigation heats up in clinton have to shore up his support among democrats those talks goaw away. gingrich sees real opportunity in working with clinton that is foreclosed by the impeachment. you have a lot of republicans or conservatives including laura ingraham who is like everyone is talk about impeachment which is not a great idea. in part because what clinton was going to be impeached over was not that big of a deal. and so there is this battle over whether impeachment is going to happen. gingrich is reluctant to get into he's a

commentator alyssa griffin who served as director for strategic communications, and conservative lawyer george conway at the washington post. george, when a federal judge uses the phrase conspiracy to defraud the united states in relation to the former president, what does it signal about potential legal exposure? >> it signals and confirmed something that we already knew, that this judge already believes that trump has extensive potential legal exposure under the two statues that he cites. in section 371, and -- so, the story really isn't about the federal liability here. because compared to what the january 6th committee has come up with, this is just tiny compared to the mountain of evidence that we have seen at the january 6th hearings. what this is a smoking gun in georgia. because if you look at what the judge describes here on these emails, they file a lawsuit, a state court lawsuit in early december, december 4th, making various allegations about that people voting, about felons voting, about and registered voters loading, and by the end of december, they are aware that these allegations are

treatment in your book partly as a new method of the new post reagan right, i didn't know the role george conway played. the index of this book is very valuable. where are they now? gingrich was reluctant initially to go for the clinton impeachment even though he got associated with it later. >> guest: he didn't want to be part of the impeachment because he was making headway with bill clinton. they are starting off after the 96 election, sitting down to think about how they can rollback social security and when clinton comes under fire in the investigation, clinton has to shore up his support among democrats those talks go away. gingrich sees real opportunity in working with clinton that is foreclosed by the impeachment and you have a lot of republicans, conservatives, including laura ingraham, everyone is talking about impeachment, not a great idea in part because what clinton was going to be impeached over wasn't that big a deal so there is this battle over whether impeachment is going to happen, gingrich is reluctant to get into. his own marital record was not as clear so he gets dragged int

i didn't know, for example, the role that george conway played. the index of this book is very valuable for people to go through. where are they now. but talk about how-- and gingrich was reluctant initially to go for the clinton impeachment even though they got associated with it later. >> gingrich didn't want to be part of the ichl impeachment at first because he was making a lot of headway with bill clinton. they're starting off after the '96 election, they're sitting down to start to think about how they can roll back social security and then when clinton comes under fire and when the investigation heats up and clinton has to shore up his support among democrats, those talks go away. so, gingrich sees real opportunity in working with clinton that's foreclosed by the impeachment and you have a lot of republicans or conservatives, including laura ingraham who is like everybody's talking about impeachment. this is not a great idea, in part because what clinton was going to be impeached over wasn't that big of a deal, and so, there is this battle

i did know for example, the road george conway played. this book is very valuable for people to go through, where are they now? talk about how, gingrich was reluctant initially to go for the clinton impeachment even though he got associate with it later. >> gingrich did want to be part of the impeachment at first because he was making a lot of headway with bill clinton. they are starting off after the 96 election, sitting down to start to think about how they can roll back social security, and then when clinton comes under fire when the investigation heats up and clinton has to show up his support among democrats, those talks go away. so gingrich sees real opportunity in working with clinton but it is foreclosed by the impeachment. you have a lot of republicans or conservatives including lower anchor who's like evelyn is talk about impeachment. this is not a great idea. in part because what clinton was going to be impeached over wasn't that big of a deal. so there is this battle over whether impeachment is going to happen. in fact, gingri

i didn't know for example the role george conway played. i mean that, the index of this book is very valuable for people, for people to go through. where are they now? but talk about how and newt gingrich was very reluctant initially to go for the clinton impeachment, even though he got associated with it later. yeah, gingrich didn't want to be part of the impeachment at first because he was actually making lot of headway with bill clinton. you know, they're starting off after i think it's after the 96 election. they're sitting down to start to think about how they can roll back social security. and then when clinton comes under fire and when the investigation heats up and clinton has to shore up his support, democrats, those go away. so you gingrich sees real opportunity in working with clinton. that is for close by the impeachment and have a lot of republicans or conservatives including laura ingram who's like everyone's talking about impeachment. this is not a great idea, in part because what clinton was going to be impeached over wasn't

conway west on this program. however, his recent comment suggesting that george floyd died of a fentanyl overdose and not this fixationoyd's neck for over nine minutes, as a medical examiner ruled, that was certainly worth noting since floyd's family is now planning to file suit. that's according to their attorneys, particularly given that nearly one billion dollar seven in the alex jones lawsuit. we did reach out to representatives for ye for comment, and perhaps, for the first time in this life, he had nothing to say. we have not heard back. joining me now is kate harper williams, she's a lawyer for roxie washington, george floyd's daughter. she is one of the attorneys who issued a cease and desist letter to kanye west and plans on filing suit in the next few weeks. thank you for much for being here. i first wanted to make it clear to our viewers, we made a conscious decision to not play his remarks. that kind of sensationalism unreality journalism is just not necessary. you've all heard those discussing comments so i'm not gonna repeat them in the echo chamber but, i do want to hear from you. what is the danger of