joining me now is conservative attorney george conway.a contributor to the atlantic and co-host of the podcast george conway explains it all. i want to dig into all of that. a lot of us can't figure that out, the timing of the supreme court. we were just talking about the ruling today. you tweeted today, it doesn't even profess to be interpreting the text. >> it doesn't! you know, professor eiffel said that there was a lot of overreach in the majority opinion. i think the problem here is that all nine justices under reached. they simply decided that they were not going to apply the constitution the way you normally apply it, which is you read the text and you try to figure out what it means in the context of history and you apply it. the plain text of the constitution from here says that donald trump is disqualified. so, you know, that was the real problem with today's decision. i don't think that -- i don't make much of the concurring opinions criticism of the majority for having gone too far. at the end of the day, i don't see, i can't

joining me now is george conway, attorney and co-host of the george conway explains it all podcast. dean of the columbia school of journalism and staff writer for the new yorker. and the aforementioned amanda carpenter, writer and eder to of project democracy. i want to start with you, amanda. one of the ways viktor orban has consolidated power in hungary and the way that right wing fascists have rolled through europe and sort of gained power there is through demonizing migrants, demonizing the notion of non-white migration. here is trump doing the very same thing here. >> it's a sad -- to see what's happening to our cities. our cities are being overrun with migrant crime. and that's biden migrant crime. but it's a new category of crime. and it's violent. where they'll stand the middle of the street and have fistfights with police officers. and if they did that in their countries from where they came, they would be killed instantly. instantly. they wouldn't do that. so, the world is laughing at us. the world is taking advantage of us. >> so, before i let you respond to that. i want

george conway and christy green are back with us. >> i want to pick up on that point.ue, simone this week, yes, as we just noted going into the break, she talks about the circus of the willis hearing and the fact that this courtroom drama around fani willis is the distraction from the real crime, right? and we know how the trump universe works. creating a sideline over here for you to look, at well ignoring all the stuff. >> yes. for and in the piece, you notice something important that i don't think should be lost here. while you have all the drama around a relationship that has absolutely nothing to do with the case at hand, defense attorneys failed to prove their claims of prosecutorial misconduct as they sought to help their clients avoid accountability. that is simon's bottom line. that is the bottom line i think from everybody who's been looking at this and following this. what is your take on what we saw play out this week? >> simone is right. this is just an absurdity, an embarrassment, and i mean, i just told my head my hands. i can't watch the stuff anymore b

would like to ask this question to george conway. i grew up in the west.we know to kill a rattlesnake you have to cut off the head. it is an excellent question you had right before that. mr. conway, is there any one in your opinion who can step into donald trump's shoes? >> i don't think there is anyone who can step into his shoes but i don't quite paint -- not going to call your picture sunny but i don't quite paint a not so gloomy picture. the problem is the culture that donald trump will leave behind. whether he departs from this earth tomorrow or next year or whenever, whether he wins or loses this election, we have this culture that has changed. this political culture. you refer to the attack culture. it is also a lack of civility related to that. but also a lack of the ability to tell a simple truth. that to me is very disturbing. and also the disrespect. the profound attacks. i'm sure you have something to say on this as a former head of the civil division. the attacks on the rule of law and the system of justice. >> i think donald trump is going to

it is absolutely, to me, frightening. >> george conway and molly, george, you first. i think, first of all, the reason for these gag orders, as jonathan lemire pointed out, is because of the fear of violence, of retribution, and donald trump is proven on that point in many different ways. we could talk for four hours about all the different ways he has threatened people. then, of course, we have january 6th. i just have to say, i was watching one of his networks, because i like to see what trump voters are hearing from places that call themselves news networks, and they were talking about january 6th in a discussion, in a discourse about us, actually. saying that we want to put out there that january 6th was more than just a little thing. that is the problem with the discourse. >> let's just come out and say it. you can hear on fox news people saying that nothing was wrong with january 6th. >> you can have -- yeah, if someone believes it was a little thing, you can still talk about it. >> they said, that network, you know, they sit there and people who watch the netwo

molly is an msnbc political analyst and also with us, conservative attorney george conway is back with us. the polling shows donald trump has a big problem. >> of course. >> with women voters. in the quinnipiac survey, 60% of women say uithey plan to vote f joe biden compared to 35% for trump. if that happens in november, it would be a three point improvement on biden's 2020 numbers, a year when women cast more votes than ever before and turned out at higher rates than men. if the would also mean a seven point drop in support for trump. >> by the way, you look at these numbers and i think we are going to be s seeing sort of a post state of the union lift for joe biden for quite sometime. because the republicans are such ch idiots when it comes to approaching joe biden. again, newt gingrich said it after '22 after they were idiots again and underestimated biden and democrats. and they lost. gingrich said you know, we just keep underestimating this guy the same way democrats under estimated eisenhower and reagan. they kept getting beat. here we go again. and again we have a special elect

us , as voters, to make use of the signings come november. " georges niang me -- let me now is george conwayent of the society for the rule of law institute. george, what is good news about this colorado decision that came from scotus? >> i don't think there really is any. it is hard for me to think of what the good news is. i will say this. i understand how people feel about it. i felt the same way i would rather see donald trump beaten at the ballot box and i think he will be. rather than him being knocked up the ballot. the problem in this case is iraq is a provision enacted in the wake of the civil war that was designed to keep people who could not be faithful to their oath to support the constitution , to keep those people from holding any state or federal office. that includes the presidency of the united states. the court did not buy his principal argument that somehow the president was exempted from this rule that covers every other officeholder in the country. that said, i think they bought nicholson sickle -- peace in a sense i think all justices understood to be a backlash against

who has argued in front of the supreme court and with people on this show about this very issue, george conway is here and george, you initially said that you thought the supreme court would have a difficult time, your quote that i looked out today was avoiding the consequence of the plain language of the 14th amendment. it was obviously a nine and okay. call today. so i wonder what you made of this ruling. and if you feel differently now, i think i know i don't feel differently. i think they did have a very difficult time with it because i don't think any of the three opinions make any sense whatsoever. i think these opinions are fundamentally incoherent and they're fundamentally arbitrary and i think that i think it just shows the difficulty the court had in trying to select an off-ramp here totally rejected the trump trump's principal arguments, which we're that the president is somehow not an officer or the united states and the other argument which was that he did did not engage in an insurrection. and the latter i think is the most important takeaway from this. notwithstanding donald tru

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and i think that with respect to these statements i think george conway has it exactly right.firm because if he continues making these statements and especially if he is making them before -- in the southern district of new york we've seen this movie. we know how this ends because we saw the second trial and there's no reason to think that there would be any different. other than remember, what the jury is asked is what is the sum of money that would get him to stop? and so if it went from 5 million the first time around to 85 the second time around, there's no reason to think it's not going to continue that exponential trajectory in terms of the consequences for him. >> so i'm going to deal with your brilliant political analysis in a minute. because that he's running as an outlaw is so astute but i want to stay with your legal mind. as a prosecutor what is the profile of someone who can't be regulated by financial penalties? >> well, this is where there is one more thing that the parties can do. and this was something that you saw a little bit in the judge engoron civil case

let's bring in attorney george conway. at donald trump accidentally packed his shirts, golf shoes, and some classified documents and took it down, discovered it, and then said, "hey, i've got these things. you guys need to have them back." no hard, no foul. they would have come to get them. they would have taken them back. in fact, that's exactly what happened in joe biden's case. here, doesn't matter what he says on newsmax or fox. here, he had the documents. he knew he had the documents. he lied to the fbi about the documents. they tried negotiating to get the documents back. he gave some of them back. in fact, he had his lawyers actually sign affidavits swearing the documents were back. ended up, they were lying. he kept more documents. he then tried to get his i.t. guy to destroy the evidence. the i.t. guy refused. he then asked someone else to flood the i.t. room with water from the swimming pool. that guy refused, as well. they are now testifying against donald trump. for all the idiots out there or let me say, not id

we saw, for example george conway the michael avenatti of legal analysts on the cnn calling the supremeourt fundamentally incoherent and a shoddy legal work in terms of their conclusion. you had abc's jonathan karl somehow coming away with this take away. despite win strikes blow to trump's central campaign theme. trump's central campaign theme his opponents are trying to take him out in the courtroom instead of the ballot box. that's the whole crux of this argument. should voters decide whether donald trump is president or not or some partisan judges or partisan secretaries of state do that? i think leaving it in the hands of the people is something that many would agree with even democrats sane and sober who just want this thing decided by the people. >> ainsley: you mentioned the usual suspects on the supreme court. listen to what keith olbermann said about them. >> the supreme court has betrayed democracy, members jackson, kagan and sotomayor have proven themselves at inept at reading comprehension and collectively the court has shown itself to be corrupt and illegitimate. it must b

and after that we will have george conway, and others. come back, we will get going tomorrow morning. [applause]

and i think george conway has said this at the fastest way for donald trump to end up in an orange jumpsuit. is this documents case? i mean, it's the obstruction aspect of this that really could put him in a lot of hot water. you'll absolutely those sorts of actions like what paul was saying. that's really gold in terms of showing your bad intent in which we're doing. and that's why it's really so important on the comparison to biden. i mean, one thing that troubles me some is the timing and the language of the hur report. while hur is making these distinctions, it also gives judge cannon sort of a little agenda but that she could walk through and ask them to make those distinctions politically trump may like that, but again, timewise, forcing the special counsel to talk more about these distinctions continues to run out the clock and shin i did want to ask you about the fulton county case because we saw a couple of these charges sort of get tossed out yesterday by the judge. what's your sense of that? i know there was a lot of talk yesterday that well, maybe fani willis is as messed up her

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george conway, always great to have you here. just be normal. that's the phrase of the day. >> he can't do it. >>> we have a packed show ahead of tonight's state of the union address. hakeem jeffries will be our guest. as well as national co-chair of the biden campaign, congressman james clyburn of south carolina. we'll also be joined by white house press secretary karine jean-pierre. >>> plus, the new effort launched by former republican congresswoman liz cheney to keep donald trump out of the white house. you're watching "morning joe." we'll be right back. >> here, we're playing -- >> "let's be normal," a classic. >> yeah. wealth-changing question -- are you keeping as much of your investment gains as possible? high taxes can erode returns quickly, so you need a tax-optimized portfolio. at creative planning, our money managers and specialists work together to make sure your portfolio and wealth are managed in a tax-efficient manner. it's what you keep that really matters. why not give your wealth a second look? book your free meeting today at

conway, bbc news. the welsh rugby star george north has announced he'll retire from international rugby union after theth coming in, north still going! - oh, and george north all the way! what a try for george north! for the best part of a decade and a half, whenever welsh rugby needed direction, they could always find north. 47 tries, 121 caps — george north's wales career has hurtled along like a freight train. now he's decided this weekend will be the final stop. i don't think anyone can ever doubt what i've offered up, and... sorry. it's dusty in here, isn't it? for me, it's been the dream, and in my heart, i know it's the right time for me to step away. it's passed in a blur. the two tries on his debut against south africa, the first british and irish lions tour where he carried all before him, the two grand slams with wales, the appearances in four world cups. there have also been injuries and concussions, as well as the sheer weight of being a welsh great. well, you don't greet many players of his size and pace in wales, so when he came along, he was like a breath of fresh air. and to stay that