. >> a couple of names come in your book, george custer. >> jess james, they had a couple of encounters with wild bill. what's remarkable to me about hicock he kept encountering these people, you think that how much are you going to cross with people, he did, he was always on the move and so he would keep encounter the people again and again. >> how much on harper, the harper es -- harper's article and how we thought of the west or think of the west? >> it did, about the same time the harper article came out, the new york tribune, i think it was the harold transcribe ion published article and sent report to find hicock, he tracked him down, so right after the harper's article was established, new york tribune article was published and that also created a lot of tension. the editor said, i've got send you to africa, i want you to look -- but it contributed a lot to view of the west, we started to see a place of frontier. there were marshals, deputies, there were sheriffs, try and make the -- hicock was a gunfighter and also law man. you started to see that there was american west that wa